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p.25 #1Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Ah, crap - I have to go to bed!!

I may be mistaken, but he said in an interview something about a medum format fixed-lens rangefinder camera being something he was interested in. This was a long time ago, maybe around the time the GFX first came out, so he may have just been referring to [what became] the 50r. Could just be my wishful thinking....

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imagesfromobjects wroteI think boss man said as much a while back, that it's a likely thing they'd do. It's in their DNA with the GS645's of yore, I think they'd absolutely kill it and I'd pick one up. I'd love it to be a 28mm (equiv) on 4x3, but I would take a 35, too.

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genji wroteIt’s unfortunate that the only negative option in the poll was “No: good concept but not for me” which has attracted 75% of the votes. I wonder how many of the No voters would have chosen if available a “No: rotten concept and I’m not even remotely interested” option. I definitely would have.
Or an option like “Good concept but not in my budget” just to get a better feel.

But, I will say, the ZX1 does makes me think. It’s conceptually far different from the ZX1 and far less futuristic, but would have loved if Zeiss, or anyone, put out a compact fixed lens 28/35mm fixed lens medium format camera with a Gfx 50 or 100 sensor. I don’t think it would have to be bigger than the ZX1 really.
The idea of a compact fixed lens camera with a miniMF (33x44) sensor has been floating around for a while now. I think it’s an excellent concept and believe that sooner or later we’ll see such a camera, though not from Zeiss. It might not eventuate until the cost of the sensor drops sufficiently. I’d prefer a 28mm equivalent lens to compensate for the 4:3 aspect ratio.
I think Fuji will make this camera in the future. Perfect fit for what they do.
He said this? I missed it. Do you have the link/interview/whatever it was? I'd be curious to learn more about that.



Dec 11, 2019 at 10:37 PM
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p.25 #2Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Is the reality of the ZX1 starting to heat up again ? Or just a slow news day for SAR predicting preorders available this Jan/Feb?

https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/full-zeiss-zx1-specs/#disqus_thread
Dec 12, 2019 at 10:54 AM
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p.25 #3Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
From these specs or the angular field, is it possible to ascertain if this is a true 35mm or wider like an RX1 or narrow like a CY 35 1.4?







Dec 12, 2019 at 11:04 AM
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p.25 #4Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Looks like the RX1 is slightly wider at 63deg vs 64deg for diagonal angle of view.
Dec 12, 2019 at 11:11 AM
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p.25 #5Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
I like the low element count of the ZX1's 35/2. Wondering if Zeiss will take the same approach as RX1 meaning specially fitting how close the rear element is to the sensor for maximum IQ. I think I read somewhere that this fitting was done by hand for the RX1 series?

CDAF only is a curiosity too.
Dec 12, 2019 at 11:46 AM
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p.25 #6Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
The RX1/RX1R II lens (part) unit is sold as one block. PDAF is a Sony developed technology. Doubt they will give it away that easily.

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I like the low element count of the ZX1's 35/2. Wondering if Zeiss will take the same approach as RX1 meaning specially fitting how close the rear element is to the sensor for maximum IQ. I think I read somewhere that this fitting was done by hand for the RX1 series?

CDAF only is a curiosity too.


Dec 12, 2019 at 02:16 PM
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p.25 #7Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
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The RX1/RX1R II lens (part) unit is sold as one block. PDAF is a Sony developed technology. Doubt they will give it away that easily.

LBJ2 wroteI like the low element count of the ZX1's 35/2. Wondering if Zeiss will take the same approach as RX1 meaning specially fitting how close the rear element is to the sensor for maximum IQ. I think I read somewhere that this fitting was done by hand for the RX1 series?

CDAF only is a curiosity too.


"PDAF is a Sony developed technology." Interesting. I did not know that.
Dec 12, 2019 at 02:22 PM
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p.25 #8Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
On sensor PDAF, to be exact.
Dec 12, 2019 at 02:24 PM
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p.25 #9Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Ok..I don't like big and heavy fixed lens cameras, but with 5G rolled out over the coming years, connectivity will become a necessity. It will be interesting to see how many like this enough to buy it.

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Dec 12, 2019 at 05:14 PM
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p.25 #10Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Was this Distagon 35/2 developed for this camera? Imagine if they're also planning to use it for an updated Loxia 35, how great would that be?
Dec 12, 2019 at 08:39 PM
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p.25 #11Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
bwcolor wrote:
Ok..I don't like big and heavy fixed lens cameras, but with 5G rolled out over the coming years, connectivity will become a necessity. It will be interesting to see how many like this enough to buy it.


I doubt there is anything really special in the optics or sensor of ZX1, just a bulky medium resolution full frame compact. Average image quality and rendering. As bare cameras RX1 and Leica Q line cameras are probably better. But the concept is interesting! With 5G connectivity added a future ZX2 - if it ever happens - could be revolutionary for the whole camera industry.
Dec 13, 2019 at 02:03 AM
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p.25 #12Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
tuomkok wrote:
bwcolor wroteOk..I don't like big and heavy fixed lens cameras, but with 5G rolled out over the coming years, connectivity will become a necessity. It will be interesting to see how many like this enough to buy it.
I doubt there is anything really special in the optics or sensor of ZX1, just a bulky medium resolution full frame compact. Average image quality and rendering.


Have you ever considered renting out your crystal ball
Dec 13, 2019 at 02:17 AM
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p.25 #13Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
zoomo wrote:
tuomkok wrote
bwcolor wroteOk..I don't like big and heavy fixed lens cameras, but with 5G rolled out over the coming years, connectivity will become a necessity. It will be interesting to see how many like this enough to buy it.
I doubt there is anything really special in the optics or sensor of ZX1, just a bulky medium resolution full frame compact. Average image quality and rendering.
Have you ever considered renting out your crystal ball


No. I happen to know that the over-optimistic crystal balls have better market

Dec 13, 2019 at 03:37 AM
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p.25 #14Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
realVivek wrote:
On sensor PDAF, to be exact.


I don't think that is correct. Wasn't it invented by Aptina, first licensed by Nikon for its Nikon 1 series, and only subsequently licensed to (or maybe acquired by) Sony?
Dec 13, 2019 at 04:07 AM
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p.25 #15Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
The lens is a beady-eyed item. Look a bit like a monochrome version of HAL in 2001 A Space Odyssey.









Dec 13, 2019 at 05:24 PM
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p.25 #16Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Love it!!

I can't get to that widget on my phone - can you do the GFX 50R + 50/3.5 compared to the ZX1??

philip_pj wrote:
The lens is a beady-eyed item. Look a bit like a monochrome version of HAL in 2001 A Space Odyssey.

Dec 13, 2019 at 05:30 PM
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p.25 #17Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
philip_pj wrote:
The lens is a beady-eyed item. Look a bit like a monochrome version of HAL in 2001 A Space Odyssey.


Dec 18, 2019 at 10:46 PM
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p.25 #18Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
So Sony screwed them over on what AF tech they were given access to, huh? RX1 II confirmed, then, I guess?
Dec 18, 2019 at 11:51 PM
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p.25 #19Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
I'm guessing it should be announced soon - SAR expects a Zeiss announcement January 6th and a Zeiss Ambassador I follow just posted an image with a camera + lens both "undisclosed"
Jan 03, 2020 at 05:51 AM
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p.25 #20Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Vaporware.
Jan 19, 2020 at 05:52 PM
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