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p.24 #1Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Not quite. Many of us are still expecting a RX2.

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If the ZX1 was a Sony we’d already be on v3 by now.


Dec 10, 2019 at 02:09 PM
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p.24 #2Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
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Not quite. Many of us are still expecting a RX2.

Desmolicious wroteIf the ZX1 was a Sony we’d already be on v3 by now.


Yep, RX2 please.
Dec 10, 2019 at 04:37 PM
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p.24 #3Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Lightroom and ACR have added support for the Zeiss ZX1 in their newest iterations, according to mirrorlessrumors, and yet the camera is still not on sale.
Dec 10, 2019 at 06:57 PM
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p.24 #4Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
I find it interesting that from the start of this thread sometime ago, the number of people who are interested in this camera with the "Yes!" has stayed at 6-7% despite the sample size of voters increasing to almost 500.

Dec 10, 2019 at 07:43 PM
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p.24 #5Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
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I find it interesting that from the start of this thread sometime ago, the number of people who are interested in this camera with the "Yes!" has stayed at 6-7% despite the sample size of voters increasing to almost 500.



Let's just say it's safe to assume there won't be waiting lists for it...unless production runs are very limited.
Dec 10, 2019 at 09:11 PM
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p.24 #6Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
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nehemiahphoto wroteI find it interesting that from the start of this thread sometime ago, the number of people who are interested in this camera with the "Yes!" has stayed at 6-7% despite the sample size of voters increasing to almost 500.
Let's just say it's safe to assume there won't be waiting lists for it...unless production runs are very limited.


Zeiss should go straight to Safari edition and only one production run
Dec 10, 2019 at 09:15 PM
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p.24 #7Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Speculating this won't be a cheap camera, it does not look like it will be very popular. However, the lens could be very impressive and camera operation could be surprisingly good. Yes, not small like the RX1 very perhaps enjoyable to shoot with.
Dec 10, 2019 at 09:21 PM
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p.24 #8Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
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Lightroom and ACR have added support for the Zeiss ZX1 in their newest iterations, according to mirrorlessrumors, and yet the camera is still not on sale.


If the camera has LR built in, don't you suspect the prototype needs supporting?
Dec 10, 2019 at 09:24 PM
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p.24 #9Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
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I find it interesting that from the start of this thread sometime ago, the number of people who are interested in this camera with the "Yes!" has stayed at 6-7% despite the sample size of voters increasing to almost 500.


It’s unfortunate that the only negative option in the poll was “No: good concept but not for me” which has attracted 75% of the votes. I wonder how many of the No voters would have chosen if available a “No: rotten concept and I’m not even remotely interested” option. I definitely would have.
Dec 10, 2019 at 09:57 PM
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p.24 #10Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
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nehemiahphoto wroteI find it interesting that from the start of this thread sometime ago, the number of people who are interested in this camera with the "Yes!" has stayed at 6-7% despite the sample size of voters increasing to almost 500.
It’s unfortunate that the only negative option in the poll was “No: good concept but not for me” which has attracted 75% of the votes. I wonder how many of the No voters would have chosen if available a “No: rotten concept and I’m not even remotely interested” option. I definitely would have.


Or an option like “Good concept but not in my budget” just to get a better feel.

But, I will say, the ZX1 does makes me think. It’s conceptually far different from the ZX1 and far less futuristic, but would have loved if Zeiss, or anyone, put out a compact fixed lens 28/35mm fixed lens medium format camera with a Gfx 50 or 100 sensor. I don’t think it would have to be bigger than the ZX1 really.
Dec 10, 2019 at 10:59 PM
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p.24 #11Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
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genji wrote
nehemiahphoto wroteI find it interesting that from the start of this thread sometime ago, the number of people who are interested in this camera with the "Yes!" has stayed at 6-7% despite the sample size of voters increasing to almost 500.
It’s unfortunate that the only negative option in the poll was “No: good concept but not for me” which has attracted 75% of the votes. I wonder how many of the No voters would have chosen if available a “No: rotten concept and I’m not even remotely interested” option. I definitely would have.
Or an option like “Good concept but not in my budget” just to get a better feel.

But, I will say, the ZX1 does makes me think. It’s conceptually far different from the ZX1 and far less futuristic, but would have loved if Zeiss, or anyone, put out a compact fixed lens 28/35mm fixed lens medium format camera with a Gfx 50 or 100 sensor. I don’t think it would have to be bigger than the ZX1 really.


The idea of a compact fixed lens camera with a miniMF (33x44) sensor has been floating around for a while now. I think it’s an excellent concept and believe that sooner or later we’ll see such a camera, though not from Zeiss. It might not eventuate until the cost of the sensor drops sufficiently. I’d prefer a 28mm equivalent lens to compensate for the 4:3 aspect ratio.
Dec 11, 2019 at 04:35 AM
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p.24 #12Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Hopefully, Zeiss will stay very far from it. Can you imagine the size of the medium format camera they will come up with??
Dec 11, 2019 at 04:52 AM
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p.24 #13Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
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bjornthun wroteLightroom and ACR have added support for the Zeiss ZX1 in their newest iterations, according to mirrorlessrumors, and yet the camera is still not on sale.
If the camera has LR built in, don't you suspect the prototype needs supporting?


Official support before the camera has itself gone on sale?
Does not seem too well coordinated just now.
Dec 11, 2019 at 05:54 AM
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p.24 #14Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
genji wrote:
nehemiahphoto wrote
genji wrote
nehemiahphoto wroteI find it interesting that from the start of this thread sometime ago, the number of people who are interested in this camera with the "Yes!" has stayed at 6-7% despite the sample size of voters increasing to almost 500.
It’s unfortunate that the only negative option in the poll was “No: good concept but not for me” which has attracted 75% of the votes. I wonder how many of the No voters would have chosen if available a “No: rotten concept and I’m not even remotely interested” option. I definitely would have.
Or an option like “Good concept but not in my budget” just to get a better feel.

But, I will say, the ZX1 does makes me think. It’s conceptually far different from the ZX1 and far less futuristic, but would have loved if Zeiss, or anyone, put out a compact fixed lens 28/35mm fixed lens medium format camera with a Gfx 50 or 100 sensor. I don’t think it would have to be bigger than the ZX1 really.
The idea of a compact fixed lens camera with a miniMF (33x44) sensor has been floating around for a while now. I think it’s an excellent concept and believe that sooner or later we’ll see such a camera, though not from Zeiss. It might not eventuate until the cost of the sensor drops sufficiently. I’d prefer a 28mm equivalent lens to compensate for the 4:3 aspect ratio.


Oh yeah, I am not saying it’s new—I’ve wanted one for years, and others before me. I dislike the aspect ratio on the GFX I owned, especially as I often shoot 16x9, and the gain from the A7r2/3 versus the Gfx was lessened as the 2:3 of FF required less cropping. I really like the RX1/31 Ltd focal legnth of 32/33mm. It’s superb as an all around.
Dec 11, 2019 at 11:20 AM
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p.24 #15Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
There's a 12 month old video from Zeiss on YT, a female photographer wandering around using the beast. It's only two minutes or so but gives you some idea just how large the slab is. It actually obscures her face. She has hands at the ready before each shot.

So maybe the ZX1 is a psyop to pre-suade the market for a medium format camera at some stage. The promo material actually lists 'discreet shooting' as a feature, but the camera has a not-so-vague SWAT vibe about it. You might look like a trekkie to human subjects. It can appear in a superhero movie, that is the optics basically.

But look on the brighter side for Zeiss - the phone generation who use virtually no controls will see the absence of most everything camera-like as a plus, along with the touch-friendly (bent) rear screen and nifty string neck strap fasteners. You can mimic that bored phone user vibe all day, swiping through images and doing basic edits (is the screen color-managed?). Videos load as images here, so the title is:

'First ZEISS ZX1 Hands-On: In the flow in Little Tokyo'

PS: GFX is 4.1 x 3.5; ZX1 is 5.6 x 3.7 - all in inches, rounded. Go larger to get smaller, plus computer storage/connect. Weight is similar.
Dec 11, 2019 at 02:41 PM
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p.24 #16Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Bru-tal!
Dec 11, 2019 at 03:14 PM
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p.24 #17Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?


genji wrote:
nehemiahphoto wrote
genji wrote
nehemiahphoto wroteI find it interesting that from the start of this thread sometime ago, the number of people who are interested in this camera with the "Yes!" has stayed at 6-7% despite the sample size of voters increasing to almost 500.
It’s unfortunate that the only negative option in the poll was “No: good concept but not for me” which has attracted 75% of the votes. I wonder how many of the No voters would have chosen if available a “No: rotten concept and I’m not even remotely interested” option. I definitely would have.
Or an option like “Good concept but not in my budget” just to get a better feel.

But, I will say, the ZX1 does makes me think. It’s conceptually far different from the ZX1 and far less futuristic, but would have loved if Zeiss, or anyone, put out a compact fixed lens 28/35mm fixed lens medium format camera with a Gfx 50 or 100 sensor. I don’t think it would have to be bigger than the ZX1 really.
The idea of a compact fixed lens camera with a miniMF (33x44) sensor has been floating around for a while now. I think it’s an excellent concept and believe that sooner or later we’ll see such a camera, though not from Zeiss. It might not eventuate until the cost of the sensor drops sufficiently. I’d prefer a 28mm equivalent lens to compensate for the 4:3 aspect ratio.



I think Fuji will make this camera in the future. Perfect fit for what they do.
Dec 11, 2019 at 05:16 PM
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p.24 #18Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
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genji wrote
nehemiahphoto wrote
genji wrote
nehemiahphoto wroteI find it interesting that from the start of this thread sometime ago, the number of people who are interested in this camera with the "Yes!" has stayed at 6-7% despite the sample size of voters increasing to almost 500.
It’s unfortunate that the only negative option in the poll was “No: good concept but not for me” which has attracted 75% of the votes. I wonder how many of the No voters would have chosen if available a “No: rotten concept and I’m not even remotely interested” option. I definitely would have.
Or an option like “Good concept but not in my budget” just to get a better feel.

But, I will say, the ZX1 does makes me think. It’s conceptually far different from the ZX1 and far less futuristic, but would have loved if Zeiss, or anyone, put out a compact fixed lens 28/35mm fixed lens medium format camera with a Gfx 50 or 100 sensor. I don’t think it would have to be bigger than the ZX1 really.
The idea of a compact fixed lens camera with a miniMF (33x44) sensor has been floating around for a while now. I think it’s an excellent concept and believe that sooner or later we’ll see such a camera, though not from Zeiss. It might not eventuate until the cost of the sensor drops sufficiently. I’d prefer a 28mm equivalent lens to compensate for the 4:3 aspect ratio.
I think Fuji will make this camera in the future. Perfect fit for what they do.

For their sake I hope not., unless it is medium format..smaller and external controls. I guess that smaller is pretty tough to do. Oops, totally different than this thing.
Dec 11, 2019 at 07:57 PM
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p.24 #19Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
I think boss man said as much a while back, that it's a likely thing they'd do. It's in their DNA with the GS645's of yore, I think they'd absolutely kill it and I'd pick one up. I'd love it to be a 28mm (equiv) on 4x3, but I would take a 35, too.

RayinNY wrote:
genji wrote
nehemiahphoto wrote
genji wrote
nehemiahphoto wroteI find it interesting that from the start of this thread sometime ago, the number of people who are interested in this camera with the "Yes!" has stayed at 6-7% despite the sample size of voters increasing to almost 500.
It’s unfortunate that the only negative option in the poll was “No: good concept but not for me” which has attracted 75% of the votes. I wonder how many of the No voters would have chosen if available a “No: rotten concept and I’m not even remotely interested” option. I definitely would have.
Or an option like “Good concept but not in my budget” just to get a better feel.

But, I will say, the ZX1 does makes me think. It’s conceptually far different from the ZX1 and far less futuristic, but would have loved if Zeiss, or anyone, put out a compact fixed lens 28/35mm fixed lens medium format camera with a Gfx 50 or 100 sensor. I don’t think it would have to be bigger than the ZX1 really.
The idea of a compact fixed lens camera with a miniMF (33x44) sensor has been floating around for a while now. I think it’s an excellent concept and believe that sooner or later we’ll see such a camera, though not from Zeiss. It might not eventuate until the cost of the sensor drops sufficiently. I’d prefer a 28mm equivalent lens to compensate for the 4:3 aspect ratio.
I think Fuji will make this camera in the future. Perfect fit for what they do.

Dec 11, 2019 at 09:43 PM
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p.24 #20Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
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I think boss man said as much a while back, that it's a likely thing they'd do. It's in their DNA with the GS645's of yore, I think they'd absolutely kill it and I'd pick one up. I'd love it to be a 28mm (equiv) on 4x3, but I would take a 35, too.

RayinNY wrote
genji wrote
nehemiahphoto wrote
genji wrote
nehemiahphoto wroteI find it interesting that from the start of this thread sometime ago, the number of people who are interested in this camera with the "Yes!" has stayed at 6-7% despite the sample size of voters increasing to almost 500.
It’s unfortunate that the only negative option in the poll was “No: good concept but not for me” which has attracted 75% of the votes. I wonder how many of the No voters would have chosen if available a “No: rotten concept and I’m not even remotely interested” option. I definitely would have.
Or an option like “Good concept but not in my budget” just to get a better feel.

But, I will say, the ZX1 does makes me think. It’s conceptually far different from the ZX1 and far less futuristic, but would have loved if Zeiss, or anyone, put out a compact fixed lens 28/35mm fixed lens medium format camera with a Gfx 50 or 100 sensor. I don’t think it would have to be bigger than the ZX1 really.
The idea of a compact fixed lens camera with a miniMF (33x44) sensor has been floating around for a while now. I think it’s an excellent concept and believe that sooner or later we’ll see such a camera, though not from Zeiss. It might not eventuate until the cost of the sensor drops sufficiently. I’d prefer a 28mm equivalent lens to compensate for the 4:3 aspect ratio.
I think Fuji will make this camera in the future. Perfect fit for what they do.


He said this? I missed it. Do you have the link/interview/whatever it was? I'd be curious to learn more about that.

Dec 11, 2019 at 10:19 PM
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