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Archive 2018Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
p.23 #2Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Fred Miranda wrote:
It may be coming soon after all...
https://photorumors.com/2019/10/02/zeiss-zx1-camera-registered-at-bluetooth-certification-agency
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1436638-REG/zeiss_zx1_digital_camera.html
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It may be coming soon after all...
https://photorumors.com/2019/10/02/zeiss-zx1-camera-registered-at-bluetooth-certification-agency
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1436638-REG/zeiss_zx1_digital_camera.html
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Oct 02, 2019 at 10:56 AM
p.23 #3Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Also, checkout the ZX1 Q&A section on B&H replied to by "Answered by ZEISS Camera Lenses" A few interesting details among the 12 questions posted so far. To include:
"Who manufactures the digital sensor for the ZX1? Is it a larger company, or a smaller manufacturer like CMOSIS?"
Answered by ZEISS Camera Lenses: "The ZEISS ZX1 Camera uses a new digital sensor designed by ZEISS."
Edited on Oct 02, 2019 at 11:12 AM · View previous versions
"Who manufactures the digital sensor for the ZX1? Is it a larger company, or a smaller manufacturer like CMOSIS?"
Answered by ZEISS Camera Lenses: "The ZEISS ZX1 Camera uses a new digital sensor designed by ZEISS."
Edited on Oct 02, 2019 at 11:12 AM · View previous versions
Oct 02, 2019 at 11:02 AM
p.23 #4Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Would anyone find that enticing?
LBJ2 wrote:
Also, checkout the ZX1 Q&A section on B&H replied to by "Answered by ZEISS Camera Lenses" A few interesting details:
"Who manufactures the digital sensor for the ZX1? Is it a larger company, or a smaller manufacturer like CMOSIS?"
Answered by ZEISS Camera Lenses: "The ZEISS ZX1 Camera uses a new digital sensor designed by ZEISS."
LBJ2 wrote:
Also, checkout the ZX1 Q&A section on B&H replied to by "Answered by ZEISS Camera Lenses" A few interesting details:
"Who manufactures the digital sensor for the ZX1? Is it a larger company, or a smaller manufacturer like CMOSIS?"
Answered by ZEISS Camera Lenses: "The ZEISS ZX1 Camera uses a new digital sensor designed by ZEISS."
Oct 02, 2019 at 11:04 AM
p.23 #5Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
After more than a year from the announcement, 6% out of 460 poll participants would get the Zeiss ZX1 whenever available.
74% say they won't buy it even in the future.
We don't even know the price yet but it seems like Zeiss is pushing forward and didn't kill this project.
74% say they won't buy it even in the future.
We don't even know the price yet but it seems like Zeiss is pushing forward and didn't kill this project.
Oct 02, 2019 at 03:05 PM
p.23 #6Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
I still hope that this (mis)adventure from Zeiss did not kill the Sony RX1 line.
Oct 02, 2019 at 03:45 PM
p.23 #7Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
LBJ2 wrote:
Also, checkout the ZX1 Q&A section on B&H replied to by "Answered by ZEISS Camera Lenses" A few interesting details among the 12 questions posted so far. To include:
"Who manufactures the digital sensor for the ZX1? Is it a larger company, or a smaller manufacturer like CMOSIS?"
Answered by ZEISS Camera Lenses: "The ZEISS ZX1 Camera uses a new digital sensor designed by ZEISS."
Translation: "The ZEISS ZX1 Camera uses a Sony digital sensor with some modifications specified by ZEISS."
Also, checkout the ZX1 Q&A section on B&H replied to by "Answered by ZEISS Camera Lenses" A few interesting details among the 12 questions posted so far. To include:
"Who manufactures the digital sensor for the ZX1? Is it a larger company, or a smaller manufacturer like CMOSIS?"
Answered by ZEISS Camera Lenses: "The ZEISS ZX1 Camera uses a new digital sensor designed by ZEISS."
Translation: "The ZEISS ZX1 Camera uses a Sony digital sensor with some modifications specified by ZEISS."
Oct 02, 2019 at 04:00 PM
p.23 #8Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Fred Miranda wrote:
After more than a year from the announcement, 6% out of 460 poll participants would get the Zeiss ZX1 whenever available.
74% say they won't buy it even in the future.
We don't even know the price yet but it seems like Zeiss is pushing forward and didn't kill this project.
I like the leaf shutter and fixed lens, but after that we have to assume that what comes to market is a major improvement over the original presentation. Even the Zeiss Ikon film camera.. I think their last attempt at marketing a camera body, has more appeal than the ZX1 as presented. Of course, I have two Ikons, so I'm hoping Zeiss changes this camera in major ways prior to introducing it in Spring 2019..oops..NASA must be developing this camera given the time projections.
After more than a year from the announcement, 6% out of 460 poll participants would get the Zeiss ZX1 whenever available.
74% say they won't buy it even in the future.
We don't even know the price yet but it seems like Zeiss is pushing forward and didn't kill this project.
I like the leaf shutter and fixed lens, but after that we have to assume that what comes to market is a major improvement over the original presentation. Even the Zeiss Ikon film camera.. I think their last attempt at marketing a camera body, has more appeal than the ZX1 as presented. Of course, I have two Ikons, so I'm hoping Zeiss changes this camera in major ways prior to introducing it in Spring 2019..oops..NASA must be developing this camera given the time projections.
Oct 02, 2019 at 05:32 PM
p.23 #9Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Fred Miranda wrote:
It may be coming soon after all...
https://photorumors.com/2019/10/02/zeiss-zx1-camera-registered-at-bluetooth-certification-agency
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1436638-REG/zeiss_zx1_digital_camera.html
I don’t dig the aesthetics... looks to me like some sort of plumber’s or electrician’s tool.....
It may be coming soon after all...
https://photorumors.com/2019/10/02/zeiss-zx1-camera-registered-at-bluetooth-certification-agency
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1436638-REG/zeiss_zx1_digital_camera.html
I don’t dig the aesthetics... looks to me like some sort of plumber’s or electrician’s tool.....
Oct 02, 2019 at 05:35 PM
p.23 #10Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
If the current form factor of the ZX1 remained, if its lens is really good (Sonnar standard or better), if it had no unusual connectivity, and if it weighed/cost RX1rII level, would people buy it?
Trying to separate the issues from the actual form and shape of the camera here. It looks like it was intended purely to draw attention to itself and its user. Is that look desirable though, a plus or a minus?
Trying to separate the issues from the actual form and shape of the camera here. It looks like it was intended purely to draw attention to itself and its user. Is that look desirable though, a plus or a minus?
Oct 02, 2019 at 06:05 PM
p.23 #11Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
genji wrote:
"Who manufactures the digital sensor for the ZX1? Is it a larger company, or a smaller manufacturer like CMOSIS?"
Answered by ZEISS Camera Lenses: "The ZEISS ZX1 Camera uses a new digital sensor designed by ZEISS."Translation: "The ZEISS ZX1 Camera uses a Sony digital sensor with some modifications specified by ZEISS."
Similar how Nikon "designs" their sensors, but really they often come from Sony.
LBJ2 wrote
Also, checkout the ZX1 Q&A section on B&H replied to by "Answered by ZEISS Camera Lenses" A few interesting details among the 12 questions posted so far. To include:"Who manufactures the digital sensor for the ZX1? Is it a larger company, or a smaller manufacturer like CMOSIS?"
Answered by ZEISS Camera Lenses: "The ZEISS ZX1 Camera uses a new digital sensor designed by ZEISS."
Similar how Nikon "designs" their sensors, but really they often come from Sony.
Oct 02, 2019 at 06:37 PM
p.23 #12Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
philip_pj wrote:
If the current form factor of the ZX1 remained, if its lens is really good (Sonnar standard or better), if it had no unusual connectivity, and if it weighed/cost RX1rII level, would people buy it?
Trying to separate the issues from the actual form and shape of the camera here. It looks like it was intended purely to draw attention to itself and its user. Is that look desirable though, a plus or a minus?
If the weight/cost was similar to RX1rII I would be temped. Especially if the battery life and ergo are better. Those are my real issues with the RX1.
Having said that, "better" is difficult to quantify. I would have to "like" it at least close to as much. I have been tempted to try the Q and Q2 several times, and while the 28 1.7 Lux looks quite good, I simply don't like draw as much as the RX1 sonnar.
To me the major draw of the RX1 line is: Size, Full Frame and Sonnar. Take out one of those 3, I am probably out. Unless the lens is magical.
If the current form factor of the ZX1 remained, if its lens is really good (Sonnar standard or better), if it had no unusual connectivity, and if it weighed/cost RX1rII level, would people buy it?
Trying to separate the issues from the actual form and shape of the camera here. It looks like it was intended purely to draw attention to itself and its user. Is that look desirable though, a plus or a minus?
If the weight/cost was similar to RX1rII I would be temped. Especially if the battery life and ergo are better. Those are my real issues with the RX1.
Having said that, "better" is difficult to quantify. I would have to "like" it at least close to as much. I have been tempted to try the Q and Q2 several times, and while the 28 1.7 Lux looks quite good, I simply don't like draw as much as the RX1 sonnar.
To me the major draw of the RX1 line is: Size, Full Frame and Sonnar. Take out one of those 3, I am probably out. Unless the lens is magical.
Oct 02, 2019 at 06:41 PM
p.23 #13Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
philip_pj wrote:
If the current form factor of the ZX1 remained, if its lens is really good (Sonnar standard or better), if it had no unusual connectivity, and if it weighed/cost RX1rII level, would people buy it?
Trying to separate the issues from the actual form and shape of the camera here. It looks like it was intended purely to draw attention to itself and its user. Is that look desirable though, a plus or a minus?
Yeah but the problem is that this body is almost as heavy as the Leica SL w/a decent sized lens on it.. It's nowhere near the weight of the Q and nowhere near the weight of the RX1.
I didn't forget my original argument which was that I wanted it before I found out about the size/weight.
If the current form factor of the ZX1 remained, if its lens is really good (Sonnar standard or better), if it had no unusual connectivity, and if it weighed/cost RX1rII level, would people buy it?
Trying to separate the issues from the actual form and shape of the camera here. It looks like it was intended purely to draw attention to itself and its user. Is that look desirable though, a plus or a minus?
Yeah but the problem is that this body is almost as heavy as the Leica SL w/a decent sized lens on it.. It's nowhere near the weight of the Q and nowhere near the weight of the RX1.
I didn't forget my original argument which was that I wanted it before I found out about the size/weight.
Oct 02, 2019 at 07:01 PM
p.23 #14Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
nehemiahphoto wrote:
"Who manufactures the digital sensor for the ZX1? Is it a larger company, or a smaller manufacturer like CMOSIS?"
Answered by ZEISS Camera Lenses: "The ZEISS ZX1 Camera uses a new digital sensor designed by ZEISS."Translation: "The ZEISS ZX1 Camera uses a Sony digital sensor with some modifications specified by ZEISS."Similar how Nikon "designs" their sensors, but really they often come from Sony.
Exactly!
genji wrote
LBJ2 wrote
Also, checkout the ZX1 Q&A section on B&H replied to by "Answered by ZEISS Camera Lenses" A few interesting details among the 12 questions posted so far. To include:"Who manufactures the digital sensor for the ZX1? Is it a larger company, or a smaller manufacturer like CMOSIS?"
Answered by ZEISS Camera Lenses: "The ZEISS ZX1 Camera uses a new digital sensor designed by ZEISS."
Exactly!
Oct 03, 2019 at 12:51 AM
p.23 #15Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Fred Miranda wrote:
It may be coming soon after all...
https://photorumors.com/2019/10/02/zeiss-zx1-camera-registered-at-bluetooth-certification-agency
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1436638-REG/zeiss_zx1_digital_camera.html
I wonder if there is any chance that this lens will be the next Loxia? Zeiss does like to recycle all their in-house designs. I guess even if the rear element protruded quite a bit that might not matter, if the diameter fits inside the e-mount.
To be perfectly honest that's the Loxia I'd like most. State of the art 2/35; good from wide open and better than everthing else stopped down.
It may be coming soon after all...
https://photorumors.com/2019/10/02/zeiss-zx1-camera-registered-at-bluetooth-certification-agency
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1436638-REG/zeiss_zx1_digital_camera.html
I wonder if there is any chance that this lens will be the next Loxia? Zeiss does like to recycle all their in-house designs. I guess even if the rear element protruded quite a bit that might not matter, if the diameter fits inside the e-mount.
To be perfectly honest that's the Loxia I'd like most. State of the art 2/35; good from wide open and better than everthing else stopped down.
Oct 03, 2019 at 01:30 AM
p.23 #16Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
DavidBM wrote:
https://photorumors.com/2019/10/02/zeiss-zx1-camera-registered-at-bluetooth-certification-agency
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1436638-REG/zeiss_zx1_digital_camera.htmlI wonder if there is any chance that this lens will be the next Loxia? Zeiss does like to recycle all their in-house designs. I guess even if the rear element protruded quite a bit that might not matter, if the diameter fits inside the e-mount.
To be perfectly honest that's the Loxia I'd like most. State of the art 2/35; good from wide open and better than everthing else stopped down.
It's a good point David but I don't think the optical design can be shared because of the flange distance difference. The new ZX1's 35/2 Distagon should be almost touching the sensor.
Fred Miranda wrote
It may be coming soon after all...https://photorumors.com/2019/10/02/zeiss-zx1-camera-registered-at-bluetooth-certification-agency
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1436638-REG/zeiss_zx1_digital_camera.html
To be perfectly honest that's the Loxia I'd like most. State of the art 2/35; good from wide open and better than everthing else stopped down.
It's a good point David but I don't think the optical design can be shared because of the flange distance difference. The new ZX1's 35/2 Distagon should be almost touching the sensor.
Oct 03, 2019 at 11:31 AM
p.23 #18Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
genji wrote:
"Who manufactures the digital sensor for the ZX1? Is it a larger company, or a smaller manufacturer like CMOSIS?"
Answered by ZEISS Camera Lenses: "The ZEISS ZX1 Camera uses a new digital sensor designed by ZEISS."Translation: "The ZEISS ZX1 Camera uses a Sony digital sensor with some modifications specified by ZEISS."
Exactly. The original answer by Zeiss is very dishonest.
LBJ2 wrote
Also, checkout the ZX1 Q&A section on B&H replied to by "Answered by ZEISS Camera Lenses" A few interesting details among the 12 questions posted so far. To include:"Who manufactures the digital sensor for the ZX1? Is it a larger company, or a smaller manufacturer like CMOSIS?"
Answered by ZEISS Camera Lenses: "The ZEISS ZX1 Camera uses a new digital sensor designed by ZEISS."
Exactly. The original answer by Zeiss is very dishonest.
Oct 05, 2019 at 04:18 AM
p.23 #19Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
A lens profile for the Zeiss ZX1 was added to the latest version of Lightroom Classic:
https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/supported-lenses.html
https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/supported-lenses.html
Dec 10, 2019 at 01:55 PM
p.23 #20Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
If the ZX1 was a Sony we’d already be on v3 by now.
Dec 10, 2019 at 02:04 PM