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Archive 2018Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
p.19 #1Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
nhsonyshooter wrote:
What's the purpose of ALON when you can use LaSF? https://refractiveindex.info/?shelf=glass&book=SCHOTT-LaSF&page=N-LASF9HT In addition, isn't the main problem finding low-refractive elements for correction rather than high-refractive elements for light collection?Think the purpose is fairly clear!
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr3-zeiss-rumored-to-launch-a-new-pancake-lens-series-first-lens-will-be-a-35mm-f-1-8-with-alon-elements/
Of course, the purpose of ALON is basically the same as that of all other high-refractive glass. It may be harder than some alternatives. But I don't see anything revolutionary here. A 40mm long 1.8/35 lens is not exceptional either, although it would be if it approaches the image quality of, say, the Milvus 2/35. I don't know about the image quality, but if it's exceptional, there may be a lot of reason for this other than the use of ALON.
AcuteShadows wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
This was a concept mistake from the beginning. Zeiss needs to stick with lenses. It will be interesting to watch them try to save face on this. In the mean time they could do the "hey look over here" thing and release those top secret ALON lenseshttps://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr3-zeiss-rumored-to-launch-a-new-pancake-lens-series-first-lens-will-be-a-35mm-f-1-8-with-alon-elements/
Of course, the purpose of ALON is basically the same as that of all other high-refractive glass. It may be harder than some alternatives. But I don't see anything revolutionary here. A 40mm long 1.8/35 lens is not exceptional either, although it would be if it approaches the image quality of, say, the Milvus 2/35. I don't know about the image quality, but if it's exceptional, there may be a lot of reason for this other than the use of ALON.
Apr 24, 2019 at 09:11 AM
p.19 #2Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
AcuteShadows wrote:
What's the purpose of ALON when you can use LaSF? https://refractiveindex.info/?shelf=glass&book=SCHOTT-LaSF&page=N-LASF9HT In addition, isn't the main problem finding low-refractive elements for correction rather than high-refractive elements for light collection?Think the purpose is fairly clear!
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr3-zeiss-rumored-to-launch-a-new-pancake-lens-series-first-lens-will-be-a-35mm-f-1-8-with-alon-elements/Of course, the purpose of ALON is basically the same as that of all other high-refractive glass. It may be harder than some alternatives. But I don't see anything revolutionary here. A 40mm long 1.8/35 lens is not exceptional either, although it would be if it approaches the image quality of, say, the Milvus 2/35. I don't know about the image quality, but if it's exceptional, there may be a lot of reason for this other than the use of ALON.
It's a 4cm long high quality 35mm 1.8 pancake lens using ALON lenses. Your right you can pick one up at B&H or Adorama today. Nothing new here. Just your everyday ordinary lens nothing revolutionary about it. Everyone is making them
nhsonyshooter wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
This was a concept mistake from the beginning. Zeiss needs to stick with lenses. It will be interesting to watch them try to save face on this. In the mean time they could do the "hey look over here" thing and release those top secret ALON lenseshttps://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr3-zeiss-rumored-to-launch-a-new-pancake-lens-series-first-lens-will-be-a-35mm-f-1-8-with-alon-elements/
It's a 4cm long high quality 35mm 1.8 pancake lens using ALON lenses. Your right you can pick one up at B&H or Adorama today. Nothing new here. Just your everyday ordinary lens nothing revolutionary about it. Everyone is making them
Apr 24, 2019 at 10:43 AM
p.19 #3Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
nhsonyshooter wrote:
What's the purpose of ALON when you can use LaSF? https://refractiveindex.info/?shelf=glass&book=SCHOTT-LaSF&page=N-LASF9HT In addition, isn't the main problem finding low-refractive elements for correction rather than high-refractive elements for light collection?Think the purpose is fairly clear!
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr3-zeiss-rumored-to-launch-a-new-pancake-lens-series-first-lens-will-be-a-35mm-f-1-8-with-alon-elements/Of course, the purpose of ALON is basically the same as that of all other high-refractive glass. It may be harder than some alternatives. But I don't see anything revolutionary here. A 40mm long 1.8/35 lens is not exceptional either, although it would be if it approaches the image quality of, say, the Milvus 2/35. I don't know about the image quality, but if it's exceptional, there may be a lot of reason for this other than the use of ALON.It's a 4cm long high quality 35mm 1.8 pancake lens using ALON lenses. Your right you can pick one up at B&H or Adorama today. Nothing new here. Just your everyday ordinary lens nothing revolutionary about it. Everyone is making them
Not everyone is making them, but Leica produces a 35,7mm long 2/35 and a 46mm long 1,4/35. So that company should be able to make a 39mm 1.8/35. Now, if Zeiss achieves the same image quality at half the price, I am all for it. It's just not revolutionary, and we don't know about the image quality at this moment.
AcuteShadows wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
This was a concept mistake from the beginning. Zeiss needs to stick with lenses. It will be interesting to watch them try to save face on this. In the mean time they could do the "hey look over here" thing and release those top secret ALON lenseshttps://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr3-zeiss-rumored-to-launch-a-new-pancake-lens-series-first-lens-will-be-a-35mm-f-1-8-with-alon-elements/
Not everyone is making them, but Leica produces a 35,7mm long 2/35 and a 46mm long 1,4/35. So that company should be able to make a 39mm 1.8/35. Now, if Zeiss achieves the same image quality at half the price, I am all for it. It's just not revolutionary, and we don't know about the image quality at this moment.
Apr 24, 2019 at 12:02 PM
p.19 #4Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
AcuteShadows wrote:
What's the purpose of ALON when you can use LaSF? https://refractiveindex.info/?shelf=glass&book=SCHOTT-LaSF&page=N-LASF9HT In addition, isn't the main problem finding low-refractive elements for correction rather than high-refractive elements for light collection?Think the purpose is fairly clear!
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr3-zeiss-rumored-to-launch-a-new-pancake-lens-series-first-lens-will-be-a-35mm-f-1-8-with-alon-elements/Of course, the purpose of ALON is basically the same as that of all other high-refractive glass. It may be harder than some alternatives. But I don't see anything revolutionary here. A 40mm long 1.8/35 lens is not exceptional either, although it would be if it approaches the image quality of, say, the Milvus 2/35. I don't know about the image quality, but if it's exceptional, there may be a lot of reason for this other than the use of ALON.It's a 4cm long high quality 35mm 1.8 pancake lens using ALON lenses. Your right you can pick one up at B&H or Adorama today. Nothing new here. Just your everyday ordinary lens nothing revolutionary about it. Everyone is making themNot everyone is making them, but Leica produces a 35,7mm long 2/35 and a 46mm long 1,4/35. So that company should be able to make a 39mm 1.8/35. Now, if Zeiss achieves the same image quality at half the price, I am all for it. It's just not revolutionary, and we don't know about the image quality at this moment.
Lecia is producing ALON lenses? Didn't know that.
nhsonyshooter wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
This was a concept mistake from the beginning. Zeiss needs to stick with lenses. It will be interesting to watch them try to save face on this. In the mean time they could do the "hey look over here" thing and release those top secret ALON lenseshttps://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr3-zeiss-rumored-to-launch-a-new-pancake-lens-series-first-lens-will-be-a-35mm-f-1-8-with-alon-elements/
Lecia is producing ALON lenses? Didn't know that.
Apr 24, 2019 at 12:10 PM
p.19 #5Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Highly doubtful!
nhsonyshooter wrote:
Think the purpose is fairly clear!
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr3-zeiss-rumored-to-launch-a-new-pancake-lens-series-first-lens-will-be-a-35mm-f-1-8-with-alon-elements/Of course, the purpose of ALON is basically the same as that of all other high-refractive glass. It may be harder than some alternatives. But I don't see anything revolutionary here. A 40mm long 1.8/35 lens is not exceptional either, although it would be if it approaches the image quality of, say, the Milvus 2/35. I don't know about the image quality, but if it's exceptional, there may be a lot of reason for this other than the use of ALON.It's a 4cm long high quality 35mm 1.8 pancake lens using ALON lenses. Your right you can pick one up at B&H or Adorama today. Nothing new here. Just your everyday ordinary lens nothing revolutionary about it. Everyone is making themNot everyone is making them, but Leica produces a 35,7mm long 2/35 and a 46mm long 1,4/35. So that company should be able to make a 39mm 1.8/35. Now, if Zeiss achieves the same image quality at half the price, I am all for it. It's just not revolutionary, and we don't know about the image quality at this moment.Lecia is producing ALON lenses? Didn't know that.
nhsonyshooter wrote:
AcuteShadows wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
What's the purpose of ALON when you can use LaSF? https://refractiveindex.info/?shelf=glass&book=SCHOTT-LaSF&page=N-LASF9HT In addition, isn't the main problem finding low-refractive elements for correction rather than high-refractive elements for light collection?https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr3-zeiss-rumored-to-launch-a-new-pancake-lens-series-first-lens-will-be-a-35mm-f-1-8-with-alon-elements/
Apr 24, 2019 at 12:19 PM
p.19 #6Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
nhsonyshooter wrote:
Think the purpose is fairly clear!
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr3-zeiss-rumored-to-launch-a-new-pancake-lens-series-first-lens-will-be-a-35mm-f-1-8-with-alon-elements/Of course, the purpose of ALON is basically the same as that of all other high-refractive glass. It may be harder than some alternatives. But I don't see anything revolutionary here. A 40mm long 1.8/35 lens is not exceptional either, although it would be if it approaches the image quality of, say, the Milvus 2/35. I don't know about the image quality, but if it's exceptional, there may be a lot of reason for this other than the use of ALON.It's a 4cm long high quality 35mm 1.8 pancake lens using ALON lenses. Your right you can pick one up at B&H or Adorama today. Nothing new here. Just your everyday ordinary lens nothing revolutionary about it. Everyone is making themNot everyone is making them, but Leica produces a 35,7mm long 2/35 and a 46mm long 1,4/35. So that company should be able to make a 39mm 1.8/35. Now, if Zeiss achieves the same image quality at half the price, I am all for it. It's just not revolutionary, and we don't know about the image quality at this moment.Lecia is producing ALON lenses? Didn't know that.
No, they don't. But just using a new material does not make a lens revolutionary. If Nikon would use actual gold for their gold rings, it wouldn't make those lenses revolutionary. Actually, the fact that Leica is able to make similar lenses WITHOUT Alon does precisely prove this point: Alon is not revolutionary if it doesn't enable you to make lenses that you wouldn't be able to produce without Alon.
AcuteShadows wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
What's the purpose of ALON when you can use LaSF? https://refractiveindex.info/?shelf=glass&book=SCHOTT-LaSF&page=N-LASF9HT In addition, isn't the main problem finding low-refractive elements for correction rather than high-refractive elements for light collection?https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr3-zeiss-rumored-to-launch-a-new-pancake-lens-series-first-lens-will-be-a-35mm-f-1-8-with-alon-elements/
No, they don't. But just using a new material does not make a lens revolutionary. If Nikon would use actual gold for their gold rings, it wouldn't make those lenses revolutionary. Actually, the fact that Leica is able to make similar lenses WITHOUT Alon does precisely prove this point: Alon is not revolutionary if it doesn't enable you to make lenses that you wouldn't be able to produce without Alon.
Apr 24, 2019 at 01:38 PM
p.19 #7Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
AcuteShadows wrote:
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr3-zeiss-rumored-to-launch-a-new-pancake-lens-series-first-lens-will-be-a-35mm-f-1-8-with-alon-elements/Of course, the purpose of ALON is basically the same as that of all other high-refractive glass. It may be harder than some alternatives. But I don't see anything revolutionary here. A 40mm long 1.8/35 lens is not exceptional either, although it would be if it approaches the image quality of, say, the Milvus 2/35. I don't know about the image quality, but if it's exceptional, there may be a lot of reason for this other than the use of ALON.It's a 4cm long high quality 35mm 1.8 pancake lens using ALON lenses. Your right you can pick one up at B&H or Adorama today. Nothing new here. Just your everyday ordinary lens nothing revolutionary about it. Everyone is making themNot everyone is making them, but Leica produces a 35,7mm long 2/35 and a 46mm long 1,4/35. So that company should be able to make a 39mm 1.8/35. Now, if Zeiss achieves the same image quality at half the price, I am all for it. It's just not revolutionary, and we don't know about the image quality at this moment.Lecia is producing ALON lenses? Didn't know that.No, they don't. But just using a new material does not make a lens revolutionary. If Nikon would use actual gold for their gold rings, it wouldn't make those lenses revolutionary. Actually, the fact that Leica is able to make similar lenses WITHOUT Alon does precisely prove this point: Alon is not revolutionary if it doesn't enable you to make lenses that you wouldn't be able to produce without Alon.
Your the one that used the word "revolutionary" not me. Stop using it then.
nhsonyshooter wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
Think the purpose is fairly clear!https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr3-zeiss-rumored-to-launch-a-new-pancake-lens-series-first-lens-will-be-a-35mm-f-1-8-with-alon-elements/
Your the one that used the word "revolutionary" not me. Stop using it then.
Apr 24, 2019 at 01:47 PM
p.19 #8Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
nhsonyshooter wrote:
It's a 4cm long high quality 35mm 1.8 pancake lens using ALON lenses. Your right you can pick one up at B&H or Adorama today. Nothing new here. Just your everyday ordinary lens nothing revolutionary about it. Everyone is making themNot everyone is making them, but Leica produces a 35,7mm long 2/35 and a 46mm long 1,4/35. So that company should be able to make a 39mm 1.8/35. Now, if Zeiss achieves the same image quality at half the price, I am all for it. It's just not revolutionary, and we don't know about the image quality at this moment.Lecia is producing ALON lenses? Didn't know that.No, they don't. But just using a new material does not make a lens revolutionary. If Nikon would use actual gold for their gold rings, it wouldn't make those lenses revolutionary. Actually, the fact that Leica is able to make similar lenses WITHOUT Alon does precisely prove this point: Alon is not revolutionary if it doesn't enable you to make lenses that you wouldn't be able to produce without Alon.Your the one that used the word "revolutionary" not me. Stop using it then.
I think I'm giving up on you. You disputed my assessment that the lens was not revolutionary. You implied that nobody would make 4 cm long fast 35mm lenses, thus ALON being some important innovation enabling companies to do so. I gave you an example of a company that does so, and you complained that Leica is not using ALON. Let me know once you include some kind of logic in your arguments.
AcuteShadows wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
Of course, the purpose of ALON is basically the same as that of all other high-refractive glass. It may be harder than some alternatives. But I don't see anything revolutionary here. A 40mm long 1.8/35 lens is not exceptional either, although it would be if it approaches the image quality of, say, the Milvus 2/35. I don't know about the image quality, but if it's exceptional, there may be a lot of reason for this other than the use of ALON.I think I'm giving up on you. You disputed my assessment that the lens was not revolutionary. You implied that nobody would make 4 cm long fast 35mm lenses, thus ALON being some important innovation enabling companies to do so. I gave you an example of a company that does so, and you complained that Leica is not using ALON. Let me know once you include some kind of logic in your arguments.
Apr 24, 2019 at 02:22 PM
p.19 #9Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
AcuteShadows wrote:
Not everyone is making them, but Leica produces a 35,7mm long 2/35 and a 46mm long 1,4/35. So that company should be able to make a 39mm 1.8/35. Now, if Zeiss achieves the same image quality at half the price, I am all for it. It's just not revolutionary, and we don't know about the image quality at this moment.Lecia is producing ALON lenses? Didn't know that.No, they don't. But just using a new material does not make a lens revolutionary. If Nikon would use actual gold for their gold rings, it wouldn't make those lenses revolutionary. Actually, the fact that Leica is able to make similar lenses WITHOUT Alon does precisely prove this point: Alon is not revolutionary if it doesn't enable you to make lenses that you wouldn't be able to produce without Alon.Your the one that used the word "revolutionary" not me. Stop using it then.I think I'm giving up on you. You disputed my assessment that the lens was not revolutionary. You implied that nobody would make 4 cm long fast 35mm lenses, thus ALON being some important innovation enabling companies to do so. I gave you an example of a company that does so, and you complained that Leica is not using ALON. Let me know once you include some kind of logic in your arguments.
Wow, how's the weather in your world! Yes let's stick to facts. Fact#1 "release those top secret Alon Lenses" is exactly what I said. You came up with the word revolutionary and then argued about it like I said it even though you are the one that brought it up. Fact#2 since you seem so hung up on that word let's go with it. Currently there are no ALON lenses that I know of that are being produced for mirrorless cameras. The article I referenced claimed that Zeiss was going to release lenses that have "astonishing image quality", "premium pancake" in size. The advantage of the ALON is far less weight and thickness than normal glass, High optical transmission (>85%) near-UV to mid-IR wavelengths (0.25 to 4.0 μm), Excellent clarity and no inherent birefringence, Outstanding hardness, scratch resistance and high strength, Excellent Refractive index homogeneity over large areas. To my knowledge there are no such lenses being made or exist with all those qualities in one lens. So back to your favorite word. By definition these would be a first which would actually make them "revolutionary" for a lens to have all those qualities combined. If there is another material that could do all that it is irrelevant because no one is making a lens with it. The article may or may not turn out to be even true. That is why in my original statement I made a joke about it when I said "top secret" Alon Lenses. Glad we got that straightened out So there is your logic! Don't let facts get in the way of your argument though. Just keep digging that hole deeper
nhsonyshooter wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
It's a 4cm long high quality 35mm 1.8 pancake lens using ALON lenses. Your right you can pick one up at B&H or Adorama today. Nothing new here. Just your everyday ordinary lens nothing revolutionary about it. Everyone is making themWow, how's the weather in your world! Yes let's stick to facts. Fact#1 "release those top secret Alon Lenses" is exactly what I said. You came up with the word revolutionary and then argued about it like I said it even though you are the one that brought it up. Fact#2 since you seem so hung up on that word let's go with it. Currently there are no ALON lenses that I know of that are being produced for mirrorless cameras. The article I referenced claimed that Zeiss was going to release lenses that have "astonishing image quality", "premium pancake" in size. The advantage of the ALON is far less weight and thickness than normal glass, High optical transmission (>85%) near-UV to mid-IR wavelengths (0.25 to 4.0 μm), Excellent clarity and no inherent birefringence, Outstanding hardness, scratch resistance and high strength, Excellent Refractive index homogeneity over large areas. To my knowledge there are no such lenses being made or exist with all those qualities in one lens. So back to your favorite word. By definition these would be a first which would actually make them "revolutionary" for a lens to have all those qualities combined. If there is another material that could do all that it is irrelevant because no one is making a lens with it. The article may or may not turn out to be even true. That is why in my original statement I made a joke about it when I said "top secret" Alon Lenses. Glad we got that straightened out
So there is your logic! Don't let facts get in the way of your argument though. Just keep digging that hole deeperApr 24, 2019 at 02:58 PM
p.19 #10Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
nhsonyshooter wrote:
Lecia is producing ALON lenses? Didn't know that.No, they don't. But just using a new material does not make a lens revolutionary. If Nikon would use actual gold for their gold rings, it wouldn't make those lenses revolutionary. Actually, the fact that Leica is able to make similar lenses WITHOUT Alon does precisely prove this point: Alon is not revolutionary if it doesn't enable you to make lenses that you wouldn't be able to produce without Alon.Your the one that used the word "revolutionary" not me. Stop using it then.I think I'm giving up on you. You disputed my assessment that the lens was not revolutionary. You implied that nobody would make 4 cm long fast 35mm lenses, thus ALON being some important innovation enabling companies to do so. I gave you an example of a company that does so, and you complained that Leica is not using ALON. Let me know once you include some kind of logic in your arguments.Wow, how's the weather in your world! Yes let's stick to facts. Fact#1 "release those top secret Alon Lenses" is exactly what I said. You came up with the word revolutionary and then argued about it like I said it even though you are the one that brought it up. Fact#2 since you seem so hung up on that word let's go with it. Currently there are no ALON lenses that I know of that are being produced for mirrorless cameras. The article I referenced claimed that Zeiss was going to release lenses that have "astonishing image quality", "premium pancake"...Show more →
Time to let it go.
AcuteShadows wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
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Not everyone is making them, but Leica produces a 35,7mm long 2/35 and a 46mm long 1,4/35. So that company should be able to make a 39mm 1.8/35. Now, if Zeiss achieves the same image quality at half the price, I am all for it. It's just not revolutionary, and we don't know about the image quality at this moment.Time to let it go.
Apr 24, 2019 at 05:15 PM
p.19 #11Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
AcuteShadows wrote:
No, they don't. But just using a new material does not make a lens revolutionary. If Nikon would use actual gold for their gold rings, it wouldn't make those lenses revolutionary. Actually, the fact that Leica is able to make similar lenses WITHOUT Alon does precisely prove this point: Alon is not revolutionary if it doesn't enable you to make lenses that you wouldn't be able to produce without Alon.Your the one that used the word "revolutionary" not me. Stop using it then.I think I'm giving up on you. You disputed my assessment that the lens was not revolutionary. You implied that nobody would make 4 cm long fast 35mm lenses, thus ALON being some important innovation enabling companies to do so. I gave you an example of a company that does so, and you complained that Leica is not using ALON. Let me know once you include some kind of logic in your arguments.Wow, how's the weather in your world! Yes let's stick to facts. Fact#1 "release those top secret Alon Lenses" is exactly what I said. You came up with the word revolutionary and then argued about it like I said it even though you are the one that brought it up. Fact#2 since you seem so hung up on that word let's go with it. Currently there are no ALON lenses that I know of that are being produced for mirrorless cameras. The article I referenced claimed that Zeiss was going to release lenses that have "astonishing image quality", "premium pancake" in size. The advantage of the ALON is far less weight and thickness than normal glass, High optical transmission (>85%) near-UV to mid-IR wavelengths (0.25 to 4.0 μm), Excellent clarity and no inherent birefringence, Outstanding hardness, scratch resistance and high strength, Excellent Refractive index homogeneity over large areas. To my knowledge there are no such lenses being made or exist with all those qualities in one lens. So back to your favorite word. By definition these would be a first which would actually make them "revolutionary" for a lens to have all those qualities combined. If there is another material that could do all that it is irrelevant because no one is making a lens with it. The article may or may not turn out to be even true. That is why in my original statement I made a joke about it when I said "top secret" Alon Lenses. Glad we got that straightened out So there is your logic! Don't let facts get in the way of your argument though. Just keep digging that hole deeperTime to let it go.
Yup
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Lecia is producing ALON lenses? Didn't know that. So there is your logic! Don't let facts get in the way of your argument though. Just keep digging that hole deeperYup
Apr 24, 2019 at 07:26 PM
p.19 #12Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Couple of things interest me with this Camera;
Would this camera complement an RX100VI and A7 with Loxia lenses in an interesting way? I like the way that they might work together for travel. I think it fits well.
- Lightroom CC - I tried the desktop version, which was nice and easy to use, and having that in the camera would be great (at least for Instagram shots).
- Built-in storage - if I understand correctly I would be able to load images from another cameras SD-Card into/onto the ZX1.
- 52mm filter size - same as Loxia range, so I can have a nice set of filters handy that can work with the ZX1 or A7/Loxia.
Would this camera complement an RX100VI and A7 with Loxia lenses in an interesting way? I like the way that they might work together for travel. I think it fits well.
Apr 26, 2019 at 07:51 AM
p.19 #13Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Maybe Zeiss will release a digital Ikon next. That would be the real game changer.
Apr 28, 2019 at 10:54 PM
p.19 #15Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Wesley Perrault wrote:
Did this die on the vine?
Sure seems like it.
Did this die on the vine?
Sure seems like it.
Jun 18, 2019 at 02:15 AM
p.19 #16Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
rattymouse wrote:
Wesley Perrault wrote
Did this die on the vine?Bummer! Was excited to see it.
Jun 18, 2019 at 11:18 PM
p.19 #17Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Wesley Perrault wrote:
Sure seems like it.Bummer! Was excited to see it.
Really ? Why ?
This is an oversized overpriced and by the way also really ugly compact camera which is supposed to also work as a sort of notebook but only for video editing, and despite being oversized for a camera, the monitor for that is still tiny.
Why not get, say, a Leica Q and a Macbook Air instead ? IMHO thats a much better solution.
Personally I'm happy Zeiss realized this product was poorly thought out. Personally I rate it on the same level as "oh lets make luxury versions of Sony cameras" by Hasselblad, or "oh lets make super expensive compacts with one inch sensors" by Nikon.
rattymouse wrote
Wesley Perrault wrote
Did this die on the vine?Really ? Why ?
This is an oversized overpriced and by the way also really ugly compact camera which is supposed to also work as a sort of notebook but only for video editing, and despite being oversized for a camera, the monitor for that is still tiny.
Why not get, say, a Leica Q and a Macbook Air instead ? IMHO thats a much better solution.
Personally I'm happy Zeiss realized this product was poorly thought out. Personally I rate it on the same level as "oh lets make luxury versions of Sony cameras" by Hasselblad, or "oh lets make super expensive compacts with one inch sensors" by Nikon.
Jun 19, 2019 at 04:12 AM
p.19 #18Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Nick Dakota wrote:
Maybe Zeiss will release a digital Ikon next. That would be the real game changer.
Sadly, the Zeiss that might have designed and released a digital Ikon no longer exists.
Maybe Zeiss will release a digital Ikon next. That would be the real game changer.
Sadly, the Zeiss that might have designed and released a digital Ikon no longer exists.
Jun 19, 2019 at 04:31 AM
p.19 #19Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
rattymouse wrote:
Wesley Perrault wrote
Did this die on the vine?Do you have any source for this? They stated that the development time was about four years, I doubt they would abandon the project so close to completion.
I also think it’s too big for what it is, the idea too novel and just way, way, too expensive. You’re not going to attract the people who would actually love to use on-camera editing with a rumored price of $4200.
Jun 19, 2019 at 06:30 AM
p.19 #20Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
In camera editing seems so forced. I'd rather use my hypothetical 6 inch edge to edge screen and the latest processor in it. You're telling me people can't wait the ~minute it takes to transfer photos onto a phone for the much more enjoyable experience? You can sit around a cafe during lunch or dinner editing on a phone instead of this behemoth of a camera. Only advantage would be to edit IMMEDIATELY after taking the photo to upload, and now you're clacking around on your camera in a probably poor LCD viewing area when you could be taking more pictures.
Give me a NFC touch to transfer over LR, and whatever wifi capabilities this is supposed to have. I'm baffled by the product team here.
In built storage is nice though, I forgot my SD card last weekend. But 512 SSD??
Give me a NFC touch to transfer over LR, and whatever wifi capabilities this is supposed to have. I'm baffled by the product team here.
In built storage is nice though, I forgot my SD card last weekend. But 512 SSD??
Jun 19, 2019 at 08:24 AM