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Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review

  
 
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p.29 #1 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


davewolfs wrote:
Obviously the AF lenses are better corrected but why is it so hard to add an AF motor to these lightweight MF lenses. I would think they would do well.

Most of these manual lenses are block focus designs where:
a) the lens is optimized for a certain distance (range), most of the manual fast Voigtlander lenses perform worse at and close to the minimum focus distance
b) lots of heavy elements need to be moved, which is not a good design decision for an AF lens as AF will be slow and people don't like lenses with slow AF



Jul 22, 2019 at 03:51 AM
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BastianK wrote:
a) the lens is optimized for a certain distance (range), most of the manual fast Voigtlander lenses perform worse at and close to the minimum focus distance


Doesn't this hold true for most lenses without a floating element?



Jul 22, 2019 at 11:24 AM
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p.29 #3 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


ratherSoftEdge wrote:
Doesn't this hold true for most lenses without a floating element?

Yes. But name any modern AF lens without floating elements. Will be hard to find one.



Jul 22, 2019 at 12:04 PM
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p.29 #4 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


BastianK wrote:
Most of these manual lenses are block focus designs where:
a) the lens is optimized for a certain distance (range), most of the manual fast Voigtlander lenses perform worse at and close to the minimum focus distance
b) lots of heavy elements need to be moved, which is not a good design decision for an AF lens as AF will be slow and people don't like lenses with slow AF


I would not mind if the CV 40/1.2 was bigger and equipped with a floating element design like the 21/1.4. The latter is very sharp at MFD.



Jul 31, 2019 at 04:37 PM
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p.29 #5 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


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I would not mind if the CV 40/1.2 was bigger and equipped with a floating element design like the 21/1.4. The latter is very sharp at MFD.


Pssst. Batis 40/2



Jul 31, 2019 at 04:40 PM
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p.29 #6 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


aly324 wrote:
Flickr says I don't have permission to view these images.


They are both 52mm, the 40m f/1.2 is also.



Aug 10, 2019 at 10:21 PM
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p.29 #7 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


I want this lens.
Is it usable at 1.2 at portrait distances?



Aug 24, 2019 at 01:19 PM
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p.29 #8 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


nandadevieast wrote:
I want this lens.
Is it usable at 1.2 at portrait distances?


Yes. Lovely rendering for portrait. Less than ideal at MFD but stopping down largely cures this.



Aug 24, 2019 at 02:03 PM
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p.29 #9 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


As this thread has resurfaced again I though I ought to post a few shots, all cross posted on FE thread and all on A7RII.

Bett by petergthomas, on Flickr

Texel by petergthomas, on Flickr

Coast Path_2 by petergthomas, on Flickr




Aug 24, 2019 at 04:25 PM
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p.29 #10 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


After reading through all of pages on the CV 40mm 1.2 and the 50mm I finally got my hands on one! Thank you to everyone that has shared their experience and pictures on this lens!


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p.29 #11 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


I followed Fred's Lens test from - https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1534737/0 -

I wanted to share the results as well as get some opinions. Here is a comparison link of two of the very far corners cropped at 1:1. shot at f/1.8 on a A7III, focus was set at the center to infinity, with the same settings.

The top image is the softest corner of the 4 and the other 3 look indistinguishable from the bottom.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/162812585@N03/48686501877/in/dateposted-public/


Is my lens a keeper or is their a high chance i can exchange and get all four corners as sharp as the bottom image from the link?



Sep 05, 2019 at 10:32 PM
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p.29 #12 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


That corner looks pretty good to me, and I’m picky about this sort of thing.


Sep 06, 2019 at 08:48 AM
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p.29 #13 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


If you want a more reproducible, accurate, and easy method to test lenses, Jim Kasson’s methods are highly recommended. Takes me about 5 minutes to test a lens at several apertures, and the process is almost foolproof.


Sep 06, 2019 at 08:52 AM
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p.29 #14 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


smpetty wrote:
That corner looks pretty good to me, and I’m picky about this sort of thing.


Totally agree (and I’m very picky too). I’d regard the difference as marginal at most and would happily keep that copy.



Sep 06, 2019 at 09:49 PM
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p.29 #15 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


So I'm finding this lens remarkably versatile... from street to landscape. The two genres I mainly focus on, but also a bit of 'marco' (close-up).

Yes focusing at f1.2 manually for street photography is not easy with a moving subject! But the images it produces if captured properly are quite impressive. And at f8 this thing is razor sharp for landscapes (as per Philip Reeve review, thanks to that I got this lens, my only lens on Sony A7iii !). The examples below won't show sharpness very well (compression) but they are.

Only minor issue I'm trying to manage is now to have it that moon does not become a sunstar!

Happy for comments.

DSC00527 by Pepyn Thysse, on Flickr

DSC00537 by Pepyn Thysse, on Flickr

DSC00550 by Pepyn Thysse, on Flickr

DSC00572 by Pepyn Thysse, on Flickr

DSC00575 by Pepyn Thysse, on Flickr

DSC00596-Edit by Pepyn Thysse, on Flickr

DSC00650 by Pepyn Thysse, on Flickr

DSC00857 by Pepyn Thysse, on Flickr

DSC00897-Pano by Pepyn Thysse, on Flickr

DSC01147-Edit by Pepyn Thysse, on Flickr

DSC01069 by Pepyn Thysse, on Flickr



Sep 07, 2019 at 10:41 AM
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p.29 #16 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


TheWonderer wrote:
Only minor issue I'm trying to manage is now to have it that moon does not become a sunstar!


Lol



Sep 07, 2019 at 11:10 AM
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p.29 #17 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


ugh! The nuances of the light you have captured is terrific! I say “ugh” because I already have the 40/1.2, and now you’re making me want to get this lens too!

TheWonderer wrote:
So I'm finding this lens remarkably versatile... from street to landscape. The two genres I mainly focus on, but also a bit of 'marco' (close-up).

Yes focusing at f1.2 manually for street photography is not easy with a moving subject! But the images it produces if captured properly are quite impressive. And at f8 this thing is razor sharp for landscapes (as per Philip Reeve review, thanks to that I got this lens, my only lens on Sony A7iii !). The examples below won't show sharpness very well (compression) but they are.

Only minor issue I'm trying to manage is now
...Show more



Sep 07, 2019 at 11:16 AM
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p.29 #18 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


haha thus a good 'ugh' Thanks for the compliment, I must say this lens has something special about it, I was actually looking to get the 40/1.2 originally but it was out of stock and so I opted for the 50 as I was leaving and 'had' to buy. 50 is my favourite focal length but at times I want a touch wider. Can't imagine owning both though.


goo0h wrote:
ugh! The nuances of the light you have captured is terrific! I say “ugh” because I already have the 40/1.2, and now you’re making me want to get this lens too!






Sep 07, 2019 at 02:23 PM
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p.29 #19 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


What a terrific set. Love thin-DoF images a lot. What a gem is the lens. Def you master it. Pitiful all the images are private - couldn’t comment then on flickr. Great job.
While thinking of repurchasing ZE 50/1,4 Planar for bokeh and thin-DoF shot, your images urge me to consider the Nokton and a Sony alpha FF as an add-on

TheWonderer wrote:
So I'm finding this lens remarkably versatile... from street to landscape. The two genres I mainly focus on, but also a bit of 'marco' (close-up).

Yes focusing at f1.2 manually for street photography is not easy with a moving subject! But the images it produces if captured properly are quite impressive. And at f8 this thing is razor sharp for landscapes (as per Philip Reeve review, thanks to that I got this lens, my only lens on Sony A7iii !). The examples below won't show sharpness very well (compression) but they are.

Only minor issue I'm trying to manage is now
...Show more



Sep 08, 2019 at 11:23 AM
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p.29 #20 · Voigtlander 50mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Thanks!

Yep I'm not using Flickr much these days, only for FM posting.

I've not used the Planar so can't comment, I can only say you won't be disappointed with the Nokton


AlexDROP wrote:
What a terrific set. Love thin-DoF images a lot. What a gem is the lens. Def you master it. Pitiful all the images are private - couldn’t comment then on flickr. Great job.
While thinking of repurchasing ZE 50/1,4 Planar for bokeh and thin-DoF shot, your images urge me to consider the Nokton and a Sony alpha FF as an add-on






Sep 09, 2019 at 12:50 PM
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