I'll very likely get this one, or wait for V2 depending on how the year ends. This camera is aimed squarely at the middle of the market: the advanced amateur/enthusiast (me), or, like the 6D, a less-expensive backup camera for a pro or semi-pro. I have a 70D (my first DSLR), and a 6Dv1 I recently bought from a friend, specifically for its low-light capability. Magic Lantern really amps up the features for both bodies for stills. I shoot landscapes, nightscapes, street, lightning/storms, macro, & wildlife i.e. a bit of a number of of things. I'm into photography for the sheer pleasure of it. I have been eyeing a 5DIV, but at $4,399 Canadian, it's hard to justify. $2,999 is an easier pill to swallow, especially with the newer technology and similar sensor to the 5DIV.
I have a dozen-ish Canon lenses with about 1/3 “L" glass, so I have no inclination to move over to a new ecosystem. Sure, I'd like to have a faster burst mode for birding, but I've gotten some great shots with the 6Dv1, and in daylight, the 70D is still a good birding camera. Its low-light image quality is sub-par. So, for the price, the features, and the ability to keep my lens investment and not lose any of their functionality, the EOS R has my attention.
TeamSpeed wrote:
I guess we shall see whether we get adapters for things like fd lenses.
That's a "for sure". We'll see EOS R adapters for just about everything, including new options for EOS EF users, like; Canon FD, Minolta MD, Konica AR, Contax G, Leica M (LM), and Leica thread mount (LTM, M39). Of course, wide angle lenses for LM and LTM, maybe G, will not work well on a FF short-register camera (like EOS R and Nikon Z), if they have relatively thick cover-glass on the sensor.
The challenge will be to find well-made adapters with precise geometry and reliable mount connections. My first choices will be Fotodiox Pro and Kindai (Rayqual). It'll be interesting to see if David Lladó will produce EOS R Leitax mount kits ...
jcolwell wrote:
That's a "for sure". We'll see EOS R adapters for just about everything, including new options for EOS EF users, like; Canon FD, Minolta MD, Konica AR, Contax G, Leica M (LM), and Leica thread mount (LTM, M39).
Yeah, as long as you can select "take picture when no lens is attached" from the menu, or it works that way by default.
I selected "No. The EOS R did not live up to my expectations, maybe their next generation will" while on vacation. I'm looking for a next main body and even going from 10fps 1D IV to 7ish fps 5DIV that is also less durable is something I'm very reluctant to do (although it has improved AF and sensor over my current body AND if I crop 1.3x I'm actually getting more pixels than on 1DIV). The EOS R is essentially a drastically slowed down 5DIV.
So it's either more wait for me or succumbing to that GAS and buying either 5DIV (most sensible choice) or 1DxII (what the heart calls for, YOLO, all that stuff).
jcolwell wrote:
If you can't use Alternative lenses on EOS R, then I will probably never buy an EOS R camera.
Never say never but I am with you.
My rules
Rule 1: Every camera I own that doesn't have a permanent fixed lens must have the capability to use alternatives lenses on it.
Rule 2: Refer to rule 1
I think one big factor in the battery shooting range is the CPU speed, EVF and display efficiency.
The faster it is in processing, the less battery it will require given the same workload. Same goes for the display, maybe oled display could make it a bit better.
chez wrote:
Wonder if Canon will intentionally gimp the EF adapters to lure you into buying new lenses. Hard to break old dog habbits.
I suspect the adapters will work flawlessly, since Canon is starting with fully electronic lenses. Nikon users will likely be disappointed with their adapters for anything other than the latest E lenses.
fish_shooter wrote:
Is dual-pixel AF compatible with IBIS?? Does one preclude the other?
PS. I MAY purchase an R but it will not be until 2019 (already ordered a Z6 for 2018) so do not categorically fit any of the points to vote on for this thread. I use both systems, C and N.
I never thought of that. Does anyone know? That would at least be a reason to not keep our hopes up that it's coming in a future generation.
rek101 wrote:
I never thought of that. Does anyone know? That would at least be a reason to not keep our hopes up that it's coming in a future generation.
I doubt it. The new lenses (50 1.2 and 28-70 2.0) are clearly designed for some form of IS. If it wasnt possible to use DPAF with IBIS then they would have put IS in the new lenses.
After all the marketing and expense and engineering put into convincing people that they need some form of IS, I dont think Canon is going back to pre-IS lenses and bodies.
I'm not shooting Canon right now but the programmable control rings on the lenses and interesting adapter choices including one with a control ring and another with filter holder are really cool features. Seems like the EOS R system would be really fun to shoot with and the f/2 zoom is sick
