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 p.13 #8 · Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread | |
zhangyue wrote:
I will give it a try and report back later.
Here are a few images with 50mm Summilux, all WO. no lens profile or CA remove or any local process. batch process.
Depend on mood I want to achieve, one day I can have a photo walk with 35VC, 50lux and 90APO. Another day with 35PRe-ASPH, 50cron rigid and 75lux. Z7 have very nice build quality, you just feel the density and quality in hand. It hold M glass better than stock M. (So nowdays, I always use grip on M240P.)
You will forget initial premium price quickly once you start use it and enjoy the process. Anything good is not free in life. It will last as many years as you want if you are not just chasing the latest technology. (guity here) In this regard, It is very similar to D850 for me, it largely made the core system right that focused on shooting and operating experience from photographer POV. It has some flaws and deficient spec in some area compare to competitor, but none of them essential for me and many others who care IQ and shooting experience than action.
TBH, other than better AF-C for tracking, and next generation sensor tech improvement for read out speed and even better DR, I don't expect meaningful upgrade for foreseeable future. It IS that good. ...Show more →
Michael, absolutely love the shots with the 50 Lux  My favorite is the first shot with the bokeh that is smooth for the 50 Lux Asph.
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uhoh7 wrote:
Exactly how the A7r should have worked in December, 2013!
Looks absolutely gorgeous, Michael. I expect this thread to draw many more views, now.
 No Kidding. Drove me to Leica body!
There was huge furor in lead up as we all took sides on what would happen. Since the Nikon Z7 coverglass is really not unusual, and it was not the thinnest coverglass made by Canikon, who often used exotic formulas for those giant FF bodies 1DX or what ever, I get the models mixed up, was it really naive to hope Sony would give us something similar?
Interviews with the young design team made it clear they had taken a thick route, which I think may have had alot to do with paranioa about lens sales. If the cover glass had been 1.1 would Sony lenses have been so critical?
Think about the endless search for a nice 35 on the A7 series, which is still unsatisfying. CV 35/1.4, an M mount, is maybe the best? Wow. Now shoe is on other foot.
Basically no Canon or Nikon lens did quite as well with the sony as on the native bodies for that simple reason, as tests and the glass in the path articles at Lenrentals showed us. Since one of my main bodies is a stock A7r2, I really feel it myself. You don't know exactly what you will get, and the backgrounds are more effected than what is in focus.
Your sale of 75 Lux dropped my jaw and emphasised the point. Not a wide angle lens. So the effects of thick coverglass are multiple. The M240 had a similar, though far less dramatic issue. Lenses like the 28 cron and 50 Lux were beyond impressive on the M9. The M240 was a bland, cold slate in comparison to both of those lenses. Yes, editing could recover a lot of "the look", and of course the 240 is better than M9 in many situations.
But what is really hilarious is how Canikon have decided to make bigger FF ML lenses than Sony! The fundamental Barnack notion, make it tiny and great, pursued like a religion by Mandler, is lost on these silly corporations, so insulated from real world shooting.
The big three ( I include Sony) are tripping over themselves at the salad bar. Nobody can even get the basics every pro knows they like in a single body. Only Canon has a flippy screen? But Canon cannot shoot 4k full frame? Or make an Ibis? They don't get it. They are navel gazing.
What shocks me past all is the form factor. OK when you shoot 35mm film you need a certain body shape. The Nex-5 started to hack away at the form, but has been let go, basically. In 2018, I would start with anatomy. What is the most natural way to support a lens with hand and wrist? Why is every option dumped into one imperfect form? There is still no organic digital FF camera design. Nobody in 2018 has though of a modular system? Imagine a sensor body which can plug into the options a shooter wants based on the mission. Indoors or out? Film or video? Like a scientific instrument might be designed.
One place to marvel at the pace of change is youtube, where Steve Huff and Kai have had to become videographers, and there is new giant crowd of experts, who are seperating themselves with presentation, and pushing video with it's seperate set of problems into alot of laps, overtly or covertly.
At the salad bar of technical options are all the goodies. High ISO, IBIS, Pixel Shift, 4k 10 bit, Log options wth dual ISO, flippy screens, continous AF at a high level, custom buttons, batteries etc etc. I just wish Oscar Barnack was around to pick out the proper bits and put them in something easy to take on a hike.
Anyway I love to see what this Nikon can do, and finally we have one of our own, Michael, who knows what glass belongs on it 
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The complexity of the glass cover thickness affects so many optical parameters that I just gave up and kept with native lenses for the most part. I suspect the Z7 with the 1.1 mm cover will also improve other third party adapted lenses 
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