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"Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread

  
 
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p.156 #1 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


A mixed bag of cameras but the 500PF is the star...

















Jan 18, 2020 at 03:07 PM
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p.156 #2 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


Here is one I took last week with the D850. 500pf and x1.4 converter.








Jan 19, 2020 at 06:14 PM
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p.156 #3 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


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Jan 19, 2020 at 07:44 PM
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p.156 #4 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


arbitrage wrote:
A mixed bag of cameras but the 500PF is the star...


How do you shoot the Nikon 500PF on the Sony A9 I wonder, and how does that work?



Jan 20, 2020 at 07:56 AM
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p.156 #5 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


ChrisMak wrote:
How do you shoot the Nikon 500PF on the Sony A9 I wonder, and how does that work?


I use the Commlite adapter.

You have to MF the lens to just about perfect and then the AF can take over and track. Once that happens I would get a lot of sharp shots in a row. Trying to let the lens AF from even a few centimetres in front or back of your target either never moves or moves so slowly it can take a couple seconds till it gets to the target and starts focusing. The 300PF works much better.

A member on here has told me that on the A9II the 500PF actually worked okay but I haven't got to try it on that body yet.

MedicineMan has been posting a number of A7RIV and 300PF shots in the A7RIV thread so I think that combo is working well for him.



Jan 20, 2020 at 08:08 AM
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arbitrage wrote:
I use the Commlite adapter.

You have to MF the lens to just about perfect and then the AF can take over and track. Once that happens I would get a lot of sharp shots in a row. Trying to let the lens AF from even a few centimetres in front or back of your target either never moves or moves so slowly it can take a couple seconds till it gets to the target and starts focusing. The 300PF works much better.

A member on here has told me that on the A9II the 500PF actually worked okay but I haven't
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Not anywhere near as good as sigma's solution for Canon then, but the images do look very good. Somehow it always seems the A9 punches above its (limited) mp weight, especially the high iso images. Perhaps it's because the images are always spot on in focus...




Jan 20, 2020 at 08:39 AM
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ChrisMak wrote:
Not anywhere near as good as sigma's solution for Canon then, but the images do look very good. Somehow it always seems the A9 punches above its (limited) mp weight, especially the high iso images. Perhaps it's because the images are always spot on in focus...



The A9 is a very good high ISO camera. Your comment about the spot on focus certainly is a factor that I find in all the mirrorless cameras. Especially when using lens/TC combos that required significant MFA on a DSLR like my 500PF and 1.7TC. In very controlled tests on my DSLRs I know that combo can produce sharp images but in the field use the AF is so inconsistent that you rarely get something worth the sacrifices of the TC's light loss and ISO penalty. But if I put that 500PF/1.7 on my Z camera then I get a lot of tack sharp shots (within reason and of more static subjects) and the camera breathes new life into the combo. With my 500PF/2xTC I had to dial in +20 MFA on my D850 and I'm not even sure if that is enough. Throw that on the Z and it works just fine.

Adapting Canon to a Sony camera is magnitudes better than adapting a Nikon. Canon glass works amazingly well and can easily be a viable solution for most subjects (at least with the lenses I've used but I do know of people reporting certain lenses like 200-400 don't work well).



Jan 20, 2020 at 08:49 AM
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Thanks,

Very usefull info for me in putting things in perspective. I have the 400DOOII with both converters but have grown weary of the limited dynamic range and limited color depth of the 7DII next to the inability to do much about it all in post processing. I bought the 90D as well as the EOS-R but returned both and was lucky to be able to. The 90D has a controversial sensor that might work if only the AF system in the 90D was up to it, which it is not. The EOS-R suffered from peculiar IS jumps with the 400DOII that Canon had no answer to, and in honesty, the sensor seemed still not where the Sony sensors are (I used Pentax for years which gets very good performance out of the Sony sensors).

So now I am weighing my options since the 7DIII I hoped for is nowhere to be seen, and it is not realistic to keep waiting for it.. I got some samples from Robert to see that the Sony A6400 has very nice output with the 400DOII, and has the latest AF tech, but going to the store was a reality check: small body with awkward grip and rangefinder EVF that is nothing to write home about. So two options now:

-Forget Canon and head over to Nikon with D500, 500PF and 1.4TC
-Get the Sony A9 and use the Canon with extenders.

Now, the first option is what everyone would and should (I guess) do, but the 400DOII is near impossible to sell above 3000,- here, and although I don't attach to gear, I do realize what kind of a lens it is, and that lenses last a lot longer than cameras, and it seems a waste to practically dump such a superbly made lens. If, as I assume, the A9 with latest firmware and sigma mc-11, gives me a robust system with the Canon plus extenders, then it might not be such a bad idea to take that route. I know the resolution is not that high, but when using the 400DOII+2.0TC, I would be shooting at higher iso all the time anyway, and it seems that as the iso rises, the mp count starts to matter less. In any case, I really like the A9 images, especially the higher iso images, they have a certain clarity and rich color that works for me. Do you crop your A9 images a lot when needed, and do they hold up?


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The A9 is a very good high ISO camera. Your comment about the spot on focus certainly is a factor that I find in all the mirrorless cameras. Especially when using lens/TC combos that required significant MFA on a DSLR like my 500PF and 1.7TC. In very controlled tests on my DSLRs I know that combo can produce sharp images but in the field use the AF is so inconsistent that you rarely get something worth the sacrifices of the TC's light loss and ISO penalty. But if I put that 500PF/1.7 on my Z camera then I get a
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Jan 20, 2020 at 09:41 AM
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p.156 #9 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


I was joined by a RWBB, on the dock at the lake this morning.

Z50 + 500PF


Z50, 500PF, 500mm, 1/400, F5.6, ISO 1600


Z50, 500PF, 500mm, 1/320, F5.6, ISO 1250



Jan 20, 2020 at 02:10 PM
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p.156 #10 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


In Germany the lens is on a discount of €300 and I finally bit the bullet for one.
It's the first time I see a discount on this lens (although only 8%).



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Chris Dees wrote:
In Germany the lens is on a discount of €300 and I finally bit the bullet for one.
It's the first time I see a discount on this lens (although only 8%).


I've not seen it on sale here either.

You'll love it!



Jan 20, 2020 at 03:08 PM
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EyeSpyEagle wrote:
I've not seen it on sale here either.

You'll love it!


Thanks, I have no doubt about that.
It will be a nice companion for my 300PF.



Jan 20, 2020 at 03:15 PM
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p.156 #13 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


Sandhill Crane (New Mexico)












Jan 20, 2020 at 08:53 PM
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p.156 #14 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


Double stack...







Jan 21, 2020 at 02:24 PM
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p.156 #15 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


"Pole Dancer"
Z50 + 500PF














Jan 21, 2020 at 10:25 PM
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p.156 #16 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


Corkscrew Swamp sanctuary, Florida. 2018. This lens punches way out of its price range.



















Jan 21, 2020 at 11:19 PM
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p.156 #17 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


EyeSpyEagle wrote:
"Pole Dancer"
Z50 + 500PF

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49421910308_b2aef9791e_h.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49421910273_c73e98afd7_h.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49422599177_b7cd5cad0c_h.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49421910238_61291d7ebe_h.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49422373351_73b3396fc9_h.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49422373236_fb10d93f3d_h.jpg



you sure are nailing some great images with that z50 Phil!




Jan 22, 2020 at 01:40 AM
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p.156 #18 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


Brad Hill posted Part 4 of his Musings, which is his impressions and opinions on the 500 PF about 12 months since purchase

http://www.naturalart.ca/voice/blog.html#Musing4



Jan 22, 2020 at 04:18 AM
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brian_sp wrote:
you sure are nailing some great images with that z50 Phil!



Thanks Brian, much appreciated. It's just a "fun" little body to shoot - The "Baby Z".

While it seems to sport most of my lenses quite well, the 500PF just fits like a glove.




Jan 22, 2020 at 08:45 AM
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p.156 #20 · "Official" Nikon 500 f/5.6E PF Discussion and Image Thread


chambeshi wrote:
Brad Hill posted Part 4 of his Musings, which is his impressions and opinions on the 500 PF about 12 months since purchase

http://www.naturalart.ca/voice/blog.html#Musing4


It is a great summary of what I think we all value with this "little" lens. I'll be joining Brad on a trip this fall. I'm going to bring my copy of the 300PF along and let him use it if he cares to. I think he might change his tune on the 300PF comparison once he does. I truly feel that my 300PF is better (or at least dead equal) optically to my 500PF and to my (now sold for similar reasons Brad discusses) 500E FL. Will see what he thinks



Jan 22, 2020 at 08:56 AM
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