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Archive 2018 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)

  
 
jaybr
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Lol, you can say that about the 24mm focal length as well.
What if you have 24mm and you still can't move further back?

J



May 28, 2018 at 09:07 PM
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p.34 #2 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)


Whole lotta talk about random focal lengths rather than, ya know, maybe the lens itself... Guess this is what ends up happening when few people have the lens. :P


May 28, 2018 at 09:09 PM
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p.34 #3 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)


As I said, you can say that about the 24mm focal length as well.
What if you have 24mm and you still can't move further back?

J



May 28, 2018 at 09:11 PM
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p.34 #4 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)


bradlys wrote:
Whole lotta talk about random focal lengths rather than, ya know, maybe the lens itself... Guess this is what ends up happening when few people have the lens. :P


Yep,it's such a stupid point to argue.
Besides, fitting/squeezing people in the edges of the frame at 24mm ain't exactly flattering.

I cancelled my order anyway due to reports of mis-focussing, I might order it again in a few Months.
I ordered an RX10 Mark IV instead.

J



May 28, 2018 at 09:15 PM
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p.34 #5 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)


When using the Kit lens, I always feel that the premium lenses offer more than just a constant F stop or sharper at the edges- it is also wider. Perspective of 28 is I believe todays *normal wider*. Anything wider for me is considered * special.


May 28, 2018 at 10:58 PM
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p.34 #6 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)


I cancelled also. They were going to ship today.




May 29, 2018 at 04:00 AM
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jaybr wrote:
Yep,it's such a stupid point to argue.
Besides, fitting/squeezing people in the edges of the frame at 24mm ain't exactly flattering.

I cancelled my order anyway due to reports of mis-focussing, I might order it again in a few Months.
I ordered an RX10 Mark IV instead.

J


So, you're saying that a zoom's range is a "stupid" issue. I would think it's the first thing people consider in a zoom.



May 29, 2018 at 08:11 AM
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jaybr wrote:
As I said, you can say that about the 24mm focal length as well.
What if you have 24mm and you still can't move further back?

J


Yes, you can say that about any focal length which is why you have to know what you prefer or require. For many including myself 24mm to 35mm is a critical range that sees a lot of use and the 24 to 27mm range gets more than it's share. But I can't predict to the mm what I need in every setting or composition so having a lens that covers this range greatly reduces the chance that I'll need to change lenses. If I need something wider than 24mm then it's pretty likely that I already knew that and had my 16-35 mounted. Sure I guess wrong sometimes and have to change lenses even with 24mm on the wide end but that will happen far less than it would with a lens that starts at 28mm. That may not be true for someone that doesn't use the wider focal lengths as often.

So while you can't always have everything covered in one lens, you want your zoom to cover what you use most. For me the 24 to 27mm range is used a lot and in most cases zooming with my feet is not possible or if it is possible then it is the least attractive way to solve the problem.



May 29, 2018 at 09:41 AM
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Yes, you can say that about any focal length which is why you have to know what you prefer or require. For many including myself 24mm to 35mm is a critical range that sees a lot of use and the 24 to 27mm range gets more than it's share. But I can't predict to the mm what I need in every setting or composition so having a lens that covers this range greatly reduces the chance that I'll need to change lenses. If I need something wider than 24mm then it's pretty likely that I already knew that and had
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this often depends on what you shoot.

When shooting people, I dont see a whole lot of need for 24mm, and a secondary lens for that is fine as I generally consider 24mm at the far edge of ultrawide.

you'll need to consider how often you're changing to 24mm, if you truly need it or did it for convenience. I tend to shoot events with 28/50/135. Before that I was doing a simple 24-70 f2.8 and 135. Either setup worked fine for me and it's just one of those things that if you're caught in said scenario, could you deal with it?

I just liked the cleaner look of shooting with all primes, but sometimes, I dont want to fiddle with swapping lenses, and I'm shooting dual bodies as is. For general shooting, I've paired the 12-24 + older 28-75 and I do like the size/weight/flexibility. Not too bothered with the missing 4mm on one lens, however, drastic size and weight of the 24-70gm would probably bother me as the adapted 24-70ii did bother me. Due to very different sizes, I'de have to switch up the way I carry my gear and that would bother me a great deal on many occasions.



May 29, 2018 at 10:22 AM
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looks like multiple reports now that the tamron has focusing issues:



also, Max tests this better than the 24-105G, so the MTF's seem to be correct.

Hoping the AF issues get solved soon, sounds like it's as bad as adapted lenses, which arent terrible, but unacceptable for a native lens.



May 29, 2018 at 02:10 PM
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Charlie N wrote:
looks like multiple reports now that the tamron has focusing issues:



also, Max tests this better than the 24-105G, so the MTF's seem to be correct.

Hoping the AF issues get solved soon, sounds like it's as bad as adapted lenses, which arent terrible, but unacceptable for a native lens.


This is why I never pre-order.



May 29, 2018 at 02:22 PM
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I’m confused why people that must have 24 to 27 mm are even reading this thread?

Anyway I’ll agree with Jordan switching to AF priority seems to fix focus issues that I can see, including moderate distance wide open and 75 mm, which was the most repeatable error for me on an R2. It’s not really shocking considering the meaning of that setting. You’re basically saying in any other mode you’re willing to accept focus error for faster shutter release… not really surprising that a third-party implementation is not quite as tight as Sony’s. I also suspect it will improve the future firmwares. I think more are hitting the shelves now, I hope people are enjoying them. Look forward to more sample shots.



May 29, 2018 at 04:24 PM
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Jordan, random question... not saying it’s a problem with the body but wouldn’t the body control the release in Balance or Release Priority when focus was “good enough”? If so, wouldn’t a fix have to involve body firmware as well? Or does the lens tell the body it’s in focus and allow release... just pondering.

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So, I switched my AF setting to AF priority instead of balanced, and it seems to be working much better. In the few shots I managed to take around the house and back yard (can't go out too much more, still recovering), none had focus errors.




May 29, 2018 at 06:57 PM
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First off not sure Sony would implement a firmware fix for a third party lens. I would bet on no way, they want you to buy Sony

Matt on your question I’m guessing a little here but it’s based on the communication between lens and body. If you put it in balance than the body maybe taking over the decision process when it sees more contrast. In AF priority my guess it’s letting the lens take over the decision process more and actually may take longer to communicate the info back to the body. That’s my guess but this whole issue to me at least is a communication issue . It would be up to Tamron to issue a firmware update to match the body better or Sony’s algorithms.

Problem here is some are having issues, some are not and others may not realize it. Plus it’s dealing with possible 6 or 7 different Sony cameras. Might be tough to find the root cause



May 29, 2018 at 07:34 PM
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Well Sony does own ~11% of Tamron, so wouldn’t put it out of the question. But I do get your point, which was kind of the basis of my question though.

Based on your guess (which makes sense) then it’s accurate in AFwith lens deciding, but when the body takes over in Balanced, the body is making a poor decision. I agree it’s a communication issue which makes me hopeful for a pretty quick and easy fix (but Ihave zero personal problem running in AF Priority indefinitely.) BUT if the body is running the show in Balanced mode, Tamron might not be able to fix unless Sony gets involved.

GMPhotography wrote:
First off not sure Sony would implement a firmware fix for a third party lens. I would bet on no way, they want you to buy Sony

Matt on your question I’m guessing a little here but it’s based on the communication between lens and body. If you put it in balance than the body maybe taking over the decision process when it sees more contrast. In AF priority my guess it’s letting the lens take over the decision process more and actually may take longer to communicate the info back to the body. That’s my guess but this whole issue
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May 29, 2018 at 08:17 PM
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That’s what I’m concerned about is having Sony address it. Hopefully they will work together on this.

If the thinking from Sony regarding 3rd party lens support is a advantageous direction of helping Sony actually gain market share than they should help. Depends how they think though.

In theory more support and lenses from third party should help camera sales.



May 29, 2018 at 08:29 PM
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p.34 #17 · In stock: Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 E-mount ($799)


Unfortunately I too can confirm the front focusing AF issue. It happens when I turn the camera on in video mode. It does not occur for me when opening it in "P" mode.


May 29, 2018 at 09:52 PM
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What body? AF-C or AF-S? What focal point selection. Last, does changing AF Priority help the situation? Be good to know all those variables in both P and Video mode... thanks.

Geoff CB wrote:
Unfortunately I too can confirm the front focusing AF issue. It happens when I turn the camera on in video mode. It does not occur for me when opening it in "P" mode.




May 29, 2018 at 10:22 PM
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Mathieu18 wrote:
I’m confused why people that must have 24 to 27 mm are even reading this thread?

I find it really questionable that you don't read threads about equipment that at least on the surface doesn't meet your needs but hey maybe that's the case. I've read threads about a ton of lenses and cameras that I knew going in I probably wouldn't buy because I'm still interested in learning more about them and every once in a while I learn something that changes my mind.



May 30, 2018 at 12:58 AM
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Maybe this is nothing, but the 24-105 had a batch where it would misfocus (under certain circumstances...that were vague in description.) The fix was solely with the lens.

Could it be that the Tamron has a similar problem? It seems hard to believe that this lens made it this far if there was some fundamental design problem. Maybe it's just an issue with this initial batch.

-Tim



May 30, 2018 at 04:50 AM
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