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Archive 2018Zeiss Loxia 25mm f2.4 is a distagon
p.5 #1Zeiss Loxia 25mm f2.4 is a distagon
Not many will do people with a 21. But a 25 is a great people lens. By that logic, having AF in this focal length is desirable.
I have shot a lot of 24 in the past. Now that i just bought a 21, i feel its only slightly wider than 24. It still doesn’t distort, which cannot be said about a 18.
I have shot a lot of 24 in the past. Now that i just bought a 21, i feel its only slightly wider than 24. It still doesn’t distort, which cannot be said about a 18.
Feb 13, 2018 at 12:25 PM
p.5 #2Zeiss Loxia 25mm f2.4 is a distagon
Fred Miranda wrote:
I will probably get a loan and test it out. Mainly compare it to the Loxia 21/2.8.
Guy will definitely get it. He does not skip new releases.
I do like 24 better than I do 21 and if I try to keep the bag to four lenses and maybe the 135 in a separate bag because I don’t always need it for city street or landscape much. So since I have the Laowa 15 and CV 40 which neither lens is going anywhere than a 25 fits right in there plus I have a great sun star lens. So my plan is the 15,25,40,65 as my main kit. I bought back the 65 from a member as it’s just to hard to not have in the bag. At the moment to hold me over I just got a used CV 28 and stuck a Chinese variable adapter on it so I can focus closer. Seems to be working just fine too. So really all I’m waiting for is the 25. I’m on it as soon as I can buy it. I think it will be as good or better than the 21 and should have less field curvature. I even saved my TAB ring to put on it which is like a rubber band with a tab on it for the aperture ring. I do hate how Zeiss made the aperture to close to the mount and kept it the same diameter too. Bad idea if you ask me. Should stick out further than the focusing ring to start.
LBJ2 wrote
Hmmmm who will get this lens first Fred or Guy?Guy will definitely get it. He does not skip new releases.
I do like 24 better than I do 21 and if I try to keep the bag to four lenses and maybe the 135 in a separate bag because I don’t always need it for city street or landscape much. So since I have the Laowa 15 and CV 40 which neither lens is going anywhere than a 25 fits right in there plus I have a great sun star lens. So my plan is the 15,25,40,65 as my main kit. I bought back the 65 from a member as it’s just to hard to not have in the bag. At the moment to hold me over I just got a used CV 28 and stuck a Chinese variable adapter on it so I can focus closer. Seems to be working just fine too. So really all I’m waiting for is the 25. I’m on it as soon as I can buy it. I think it will be as good or better than the 21 and should have less field curvature. I even saved my TAB ring to put on it which is like a rubber band with a tab on it for the aperture ring. I do hate how Zeiss made the aperture to close to the mount and kept it the same diameter too. Bad idea if you ask me. Should stick out further than the focusing ring to start.
Feb 13, 2018 at 12:35 PM
p.5 #3Zeiss Loxia 25mm f2.4 is a distagon
I seriously want the Voigtlander 40/65 but need auto focus for my rugrats and can’t justify [at the moment] having 40 MF - 55mm AF and 65mm MF. 🤦🏼♂️
Edit: I love the 21mm focal length and can’t see swapping my 21mm for the 25mm. I also love 28mm and the ZM line makes me hopeful to see a 28mm Loxia in the next year or two.
GMPhotography wrote:
I will probably get a loan and test it out. Mainly compare it to the Loxia 21/2.8.
Guy will definitely get it. He does not skip new releases. I do like 24 better than I do 21 and if I try to keep the bag to four lenses and maybe the 135 in a separate bag because I don’t always need it for city street or landscape much. So since I have the Laowa 15 and CV 40 which neither lens is going anywhere than a 25 fits right in there plus I have a great sun star lens. So my plan is the 15,25,40,65 as my main kit. I bought back the 65 from a member as it’s just to hard to not have in the bag....Show more →
Edit: I love the 21mm focal length and can’t see swapping my 21mm for the 25mm. I also love 28mm and the ZM line makes me hopeful to see a 28mm Loxia in the next year or two.
GMPhotography wrote:
Fred Miranda wrote
LBJ2 wrote
Hmmmm who will get this lens first Fred or Guy?Guy will definitely get it. He does not skip new releases.
Feb 13, 2018 at 12:40 PM
p.5 #4Zeiss Loxia 25mm f2.4 is a distagon
Rugrats 24-105. Done
I actually did some low light shooting both in and out of the studio and was shocked how well it tracked.
My only AF lens now is the 24-105 and Batis 135 but I'm thinking about getting the GM 85 1.4 back but want to see whats announced. Thats back burner item , i want the Loxia 25 first
I actually did some low light shooting both in and out of the studio and was shocked how well it tracked.
My only AF lens now is the 24-105 and Batis 135 but I'm thinking about getting the GM 85 1.4 back but want to see whats announced. Thats back burner item , i want the Loxia 25 first
Feb 13, 2018 at 01:25 PM
p.5 #5Zeiss Loxia 25mm f2.4 is a distagon
28/2 is a better rugrat lens to me. I’d rather be up close playing with them then shooting from across the room. Actually though, I have the 24/1.8 at the moment and still really like this lens. Good bokeh, close focus, light and quick. I can deal with 18MP, or pull the baffel and use a 125 scale for a 30mm f/2 equivalent with about 23MP. I personally like those images better, but if you don’t want to mess with it than the 28/2.
Back to the Loxia, I tried the ZF 25 with the kiddos, nice focal length but having auto focus is a definite plus.
Blakehfreeman wrote:
I seriously want the Voigtlander 40/65 but need auto focus for my rugrats and can’t justify [at the moment] having 40 MF - 55mm AF and 65mm MF. 🤦🏼♂️
Edit: I love the 21mm focal length and can’t see swapping my 21mm for the 25mm. I also love 28mm and the ZM line makes me hopeful to see a 28mm Loxia in the next year or two.
I will probably get a loan and test it out. Mainly compare it to the Loxia 21/2.8.
Guy will definitely get it. He does not skip new releases. I do like 24 better than I do 21 and if I try to keep the bag to four lenses and maybe the 135 in a separate bag because I don’t always need it for city street or landscape much. So since I have the Laowa 15 and CV 40 which neither lens is going anywhere than a 25 fits right in there plus I have a great sun star lens. So my plan is the 15,25,40,65 as my main kit. I bought back the 65 from a member as it’s just to hard to not have in the bag. At the moment to hold me over I just got a used CV 28 and stuck a Chinese variable adapter on it so I can focus closer. Seems to be working just fine too. So really all I’m waiting for is the 25. I’m on it as soon as I can buy it. I think it will be as good or better than the 21 and should have less field curvature. I even saved my TAB ring to put on it which is like a rubber band with a tab on it for the aperture ring. I do hate how Zeiss made the aperture to close to the mount and kept it the same diameter too. Bad idea if you ask me. Should stick out further than the focusing ring to start.
Back to the Loxia, I tried the ZF 25 with the kiddos, nice focal length but having auto focus is a definite plus.
Blakehfreeman wrote:
I seriously want the Voigtlander 40/65 but need auto focus for my rugrats and can’t justify [at the moment] having 40 MF - 55mm AF and 65mm MF. 🤦🏼♂️
Edit: I love the 21mm focal length and can’t see swapping my 21mm for the 25mm. I also love 28mm and the ZM line makes me hopeful to see a 28mm Loxia in the next year or two.
GMPhotography wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
LBJ2 wrote
Hmmmm who will get this lens first Fred or Guy?Guy will definitely get it. He does not skip new releases.
Feb 13, 2018 at 01:32 PM
p.5 #6Zeiss Loxia 25mm f2.4 is a distagon
Mathieu18 wrote:
28/2 is a better rugrat lens to me. I’d rather be up close playing with them then shooting from across the room. Actually though, I have the 24/1.8 at the moment and still really like this lens. Good bokeh, close focus, light and quick. I can deal with 18MP, or pull the baffel and use a 125 scale for a 30mm f/2 equivalent with about 23MP. I personally like those images better, but if you don’t want to mess with it than the 28/2.
Back to the Loxia, I tried the ZF 25 with the kiddos, nice focal length but...Show more →
Edit: I love the 21mm focal length and can’t see swapping my 21mm for the 25mm. I also love 28mm and the ZM line makes me hopeful to see a 28mm Loxia in the next year or two.
I will probably get a loan and test it out. Mainly compare it to the Loxia 21/2.8.
Guy will definitely get it. He does not skip new releases. I do like 24 better than I do 21 and if I try to keep the bag to four lenses and maybe the 135 in a separate bag because I don’t always need it for city street or landscape much. So since I have the Laowa 15 and CV 40 which neither lens is going anywhere than a 25 fits right in there plus I have a great sun star lens. So my plan is the 15,25,40,65 as my main kit. I bought back the 65 from a member as it’s just to hard to not have in the bag. At the moment to hold me over I just got a used CV 28 and stuck a Chinese variable adapter on it so I can focus closer. Seems to be working just fine too. So really all I’m waiting for is the 25. I’m on it as soon as I can buy it. I think it will be as good or better than the 21 and should have less field curvature. I even saved my TAB ring to put on it which is like a rubber band with a tab on it for the aperture ring. I do hate how Zeiss made the aperture to close to the mount and kept it the same diameter too. Bad idea if you ask me. Should stick out further than the focusing ring to start.
Hi Mathieu,
Do you mean the Sony 24/1.8 ZA (APS-C)? This lens is equiv. to the 35/2.8 ZA full-frame offering and when doing a side-by-side test, I could not tell them apart in terms of OOF rendering, blur and color. I've posted this test somewhere in the forum.
The main benefit of the 24/1.8 is the much shorter MFD, making it capable of more blur at this distance.
28/2 is a better rugrat lens to me. I’d rather be up close playing with them then shooting from across the room. Actually though, I have the 24/1.8 at the moment and still really like this lens. Good bokeh, close focus, light and quick. I can deal with 18MP, or pull the baffel and use a 125 scale for a 30mm f/2 equivalent with about 23MP. I personally like those images better, but if you don’t want to mess with it than the 28/2.
Back to the Loxia, I tried the ZF 25 with the kiddos, nice focal length but...Show more →
Blakehfreeman wrote
I seriously want the Voigtlander 40/65 but need auto focus for my rugrats and can’t justify [at the moment] having 40 MF - 55mm AF and 65mm MF. 🤦🏼♂️Edit: I love the 21mm focal length and can’t see swapping my 21mm for the 25mm. I also love 28mm and the ZM line makes me hopeful to see a 28mm Loxia in the next year or two.
GMPhotography wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
LBJ2 wrote
Hmmmm who will get this lens first Fred or Guy?Guy will definitely get it. He does not skip new releases.
Hi Mathieu,
Do you mean the Sony 24/1.8 ZA (APS-C)? This lens is equiv. to the 35/2.8 ZA full-frame offering and when doing a side-by-side test, I could not tell them apart in terms of OOF rendering, blur and color. I've posted this test somewhere in the forum.
The main benefit of the 24/1.8 is the much shorter MFD, making it capable of more blur at this distance.
Feb 13, 2018 at 02:31 PM
p.5 #7Zeiss Loxia 25mm f2.4 is a distagon
Yes, it should have a touch more blur, but I'd agree it'd be pretty indistinguishable. That said, did you feel the bokeh had the same onion ring problem that the 35/2.8 did? It seems cleaner to me but I didn't shoot them side by side. I also do really appreciate the close focus ability. 6" is quite nice. Lastly, I've done some quick testing with the image circle and baffle removed and I think you have a clean image at a 30mm equivalent which gives you f/2 or f/2.1 maybe?
And I know it's individual to me, but I have no need for 42MP when I'm shooting rugrats, so using a crop lens for this is okay by me.
Fred Miranda wrote:
Back to the Loxia, I tried the ZF 25 with the kiddos, nice focal length but having auto focus is a definite plus.
Edit: I love the 21mm focal length and can’t see swapping my 21mm for the 25mm. I also love 28mm and the ZM line makes me hopeful to see a 28mm Loxia in the next year or two.
I will probably get a loan and test it out. Mainly compare it to the Loxia 21/2.8.
Guy will definitely get it. He does not skip new releases. I do like 24 better than I do 21 and if I try to keep the bag to four lenses and maybe the 135 in a separate bag because I don’t always need it for city street or landscape much. So since I have the Laowa 15 and CV 40 which neither lens is going anywhere than a 25 fits right in there plus I have a great sun star lens. So my plan is the 15,25,40,65 as my main kit. I bought back the 65 from a member as it’s just to hard to not have in the bag. At the moment to hold me over I just got a used CV 28 and stuck a Chinese variable adapter on it so I can focus closer. Seems to be working just fine too. So really all I’m waiting for is the 25. I’m on it as soon as I can buy it. I think it will be as good or better than the 21 and should have less field curvature. I even saved my TAB ring to put on it which is like a rubber band with a tab on it for the aperture ring. I do hate how Zeiss made the aperture to close to the mount and kept it the same diameter too. Bad idea if you ask me. Should stick out further than the focusing ring to start.Hi Mathieu,
Do you mean the Sony 24/1.8 ZA (APS-C)? This lens is equiv. to the 35/2.8 ZA full-frame offering and when doing a side-by-side test, I could not tell them apart in terms of OOF rendering, blur and color. I've posted this test somewhere in the forum.
The main benefit of the 24/1.8 is the much shorter MFD, making it capable of more blur at this distance.
And I know it's individual to me, but I have no need for 42MP when I'm shooting rugrats, so using a crop lens for this is okay by me.
Fred Miranda wrote:
Mathieu18 wrote
28/2 is a better rugrat lens to me. I’d rather be up close playing with them then shooting from across the room. Actually though, I have the 24/1.8 at the moment and still really like this lens. Good bokeh, close focus, light and quick. I can deal with 18MP, or pull the baffel and use a 125 scale for a 30mm f/2 equivalent with about 23MP. I personally like those images better, but if you don’t want to mess with it than the 28/2.Back to the Loxia, I tried the ZF 25 with the kiddos, nice focal length but having auto focus is a definite plus.
Blakehfreeman wrote
I seriously want the Voigtlander 40/65 but need auto focus for my rugrats and can’t justify [at the moment] having 40 MF - 55mm AF and 65mm MF. 🤦🏼♂️Edit: I love the 21mm focal length and can’t see swapping my 21mm for the 25mm. I also love 28mm and the ZM line makes me hopeful to see a 28mm Loxia in the next year or two.
GMPhotography wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
LBJ2 wrote
Hmmmm who will get this lens first Fred or Guy?Guy will definitely get it. He does not skip new releases.
Do you mean the Sony 24/1.8 ZA (APS-C)? This lens is equiv. to the 35/2.8 ZA full-frame offering and when doing a side-by-side test, I could not tell them apart in terms of OOF rendering, blur and color. I've posted this test somewhere in the forum.
The main benefit of the 24/1.8 is the much shorter MFD, making it capable of more blur at this distance.
Feb 13, 2018 at 04:24 PM
p.5 #8Zeiss Loxia 25mm f2.4 is a distagon
Looks like the announcement will drop at 2am Pacific tomorrow/tonight.
Feb 14, 2018 at 01:02 AM
p.5 #9Zeiss Loxia 25mm f2.4 is a distagon
Blakehfreeman wrote:
Looks like the announcement will drop at 2am Pacific tomorrow/tonight.
Exactly 6 months after I emailed Zeiss, whether they were intending to release a Loxia 25mm. I must have read their thougths.
They told me to stick with the existing lens offering though, shame on them!
Looks like the announcement will drop at 2am Pacific tomorrow/tonight.
Exactly 6 months after I emailed Zeiss, whether they were intending to release a Loxia 25mm. I must have read their thougths.
They told me to stick with the existing lens offering though, shame on them!
Feb 14, 2018 at 03:42 AM
p.5 #11Zeiss Loxia 25mm f2.4 is a distagon
1299€, available from March
Spec sheet: https://www.zeiss.de/content/dam/media/Download/zeiss-loxia_24_25.pdf
Spec sheet: https://www.zeiss.de/content/dam/media/Download/zeiss-loxia_24_25.pdf
Feb 14, 2018 at 03:59 AM
p.5 #12Zeiss Loxia 25mm f2.4 is a distagon
GMPhotography wrote:
I’m buying one for sure in a month or so. Been waiting for it. It will gap my 15/40 perfectly for me.
End of day I’ll have 15,25,40,65,135 as my landscape kit. That’s really nice gapping and the very best glass for Sony.
That's quite a gap between 15 and 25 though.
Your rough gapping : 110 degrees > 82 degrees > 57 degrees > 37 degrees > 18 degrees
Roughly 20 degrees between them bar that 15mm to 25mm at 28 degrees and at landscape FLs that probably even more important than with teles. A Loxia 21mm (92 degrees and simply gorgeous sunstars) would fit perfectly in there
EDIT : Sorry just noticed this thread has 5 pages so you may well have covered this in subsequent posts !
Edited on Feb 14, 2018 at 04:08 AM · View previous versions
I’m buying one for sure in a month or so. Been waiting for it. It will gap my 15/40 perfectly for me.
End of day I’ll have 15,25,40,65,135 as my landscape kit. That’s really nice gapping and the very best glass for Sony.
That's quite a gap between 15 and 25 though.
Your rough gapping : 110 degrees > 82 degrees > 57 degrees > 37 degrees > 18 degrees
Roughly 20 degrees between them bar that 15mm to 25mm at 28 degrees and at landscape FLs that probably even more important than with teles. A Loxia 21mm (92 degrees and simply gorgeous sunstars) would fit perfectly in there
EDIT : Sorry just noticed this thread has 5 pages so you may well have covered this in subsequent posts !
Edited on Feb 14, 2018 at 04:08 AM · View previous versions
Feb 14, 2018 at 04:03 AM
p.5 #14Zeiss Loxia 25mm f2.4 is a distagon
Looks like this may replace the the 21 as new gold standard for wides...
Feb 14, 2018 at 04:20 AM
p.5 #15Zeiss Loxia 25mm f2.4 is a distagon
IMHO not very promising MTF curves, given the price tag...
Feb 14, 2018 at 04:30 AM
p.5 #16Zeiss Loxia 25mm f2.4 is a distagon
actually nobody has been able to develop a decent 24/25mm lens before... it looks as if it were some sort of cursed focal length...
Feb 14, 2018 at 04:34 AM
p.5 #17Zeiss Loxia 25mm f2.4 is a distagon
Seems as the 25 is even better corrected than the 21
Feb 14, 2018 at 04:37 AM
p.5 #18Zeiss Loxia 25mm f2.4 is a distagon
luismanibarro wrote:
IMHO not very promising MTF curves, given the price tag...
It outperforms the Lox 21 which is one of the most appreciated WA lenses ever. How is that not promising?
IMHO not very promising MTF curves, given the price tag...
It outperforms the Lox 21 which is one of the most appreciated WA lenses ever. How is that not promising?
Feb 14, 2018 at 04:39 AM
Feb 14, 2018 at 04:49 AM
p.5 #20Zeiss Loxia 25mm f2.4 is a distagon
Phillip Reeve wrote:
It outperforms the Lox 21 which is one of the most appreciated WA lenses ever. How is that not promising?
Contrast curves (40lpmm) under 80% does not look so... also sagital/tangential unmatch shows some sort of astigmatism...
I just do not find those curves belonging to an 1300€ prime lens, but again, none of the existing 24/25mm lenses are that good either
BTW, thanks a lot for your fantastic website
Luis
luismanibarro wrote
IMHO not very promising MTF curves, given the price tag...Contrast curves (40lpmm) under 80% does not look so... also sagital/tangential unmatch shows some sort of astigmatism...
I just do not find those curves belonging to an 1300€ prime lens, but again, none of the existing 24/25mm lenses are that good either
BTW, thanks a lot for your fantastic website
Luis
Feb 14, 2018 at 04:58 AM