Ha. Not to add salt to the wound, but it is on the way to my house!! FYI, I considered buying one on Amazon over the weekend. There were four and all were a little cheaper, but they were all from newly launched retailers. One was priced at $2600. I attempted to converse with the seller, but they were very slow to respond. I decided against it because Amazon only guarantees your money back up to $2500. Just FYI.
Personally I don't trust open box items, at least not for the minuscule discount they offer (well under 10%). You will never know what happened to it or why it was returned, and I'm far too anal to have that weighing on my mind all the time haha. I've also worked in retail long enough to see some of the ridiculous things customers do to items, then end up getting a manager to take it back for a refund.
If anything I prefer refurbs, because the discounts are much deeper and they get an extra level of QC before being sold.
N Brand new/Never used - In original manufacturer's packaging
OB Open Box with full manufacturer warranty
D Never owned - Used for demonstration purposes only
R Refurbished by the Manufacturer to original company's specifications
10 Preowned equipment, but appears as new
9+ Shows little or no signs of wear
9 Shows signs of use, but very clean
8+ Shows moderate wear or finish marks
8 Well used - may exhibit "dings" or finish marks
7 Shows considerable amount of use - More than average wear
6 Usable, but has considerable optical or mechanical imperfections
So Open Box is not used i.e. not returned (or is it?) And it's not a demo.
Guessing here that Open Box means it was bought and returned. It would seem that Demo may be more desirable in their hierarchy.
I almost always buy used, and this one was 10% off. If anything is wrong, I should be able to figure it out quickly, and B and H has a generous return policy. I am pretty high strung myself, but I trust B and H.
groob wrote:
Ha. Not to add salt to the wound, but it is on the way to my house!! FYI, I considered buying one on Amazon over the weekend. There were four and all were a little cheaper, but they were all from newly launched retailers. One was priced at $2600. I attempted to converse with the seller, but they were very slow to respond. I decided against it because Amazon only guarantees your money back up to $2500. Just FYI.
I'm pretty certain all of those "newly launched" Amazon profiles are scams anyway :/
Mark, you didn't hurt my feelings. We just have different views, and that's ok.
Received the camera last night. Physically, it appears to be flawless. According to camerashuttercount.com, the shutter count is 58 (after I took the 10 or so obligatory photos of the cat). So far, then, it appears worth the 10% discount I got buying open-box. Although the weather is not going to be great, I'll test it out more this weekend.
N Brand new/Never used - In original manufacturer's packaging
OB Open Box with full manufacturer warranty
D Never owned - Used for demonstration purposes only
R Refurbished by the Manufacturer to original company's specifications
10 Preowned equipment, but appears as new
9+ Shows little or no signs of wear
9 Shows signs of use, but very clean
8+ Shows moderate wear or finish marks
8 Well used - may exhibit "dings" or finish marks
7 Shows considerable amount of use - More than average wear
6 Usable, but has considerable optical or mechanical imperfections
So Open Box is not used i.e. not returned (or is it?) And it's not a demo.
Guessing here that Open Box means it was bought and returned. It would seem that Demo may be more desirable in their hierarchy....Show more →
Not necessarily. Demo units are handled by thousands of people and if it's a current model, one has to wonder why it's no longer wanted by the store as a demo unit. An Open Box can theoretically be someone who bought and had buyer's remorse (or an angry spouse) and returned it. It could also be someone who used the camera and returned it but if you buy one and it has too many shutter actuations, you can always return it. Or it could be a unit that was opened at the counter and a buyer decided they didn't want it.
zoetmb wrote:
Not necessarily. Demo units are handled by thousands of people and if it's a current model, one has to wonder why it's no longer wanted by the store as a demo unit.
Speaking only for B&H, almost all the store demo hardware we have on display comes from our vendors, including US distributors like Nikon USA or Canon USA. When a demo camera, lens etc has reached the end of its useful life it is returned to the vendor or distributor who provided it and (usually) replaced.
henryp wrote:
Speaking only for B&H, almost all the store demo hardware we have on display comes from our vendors, including US distributors like Nikon USA or Canon USA. When a demo camera, lens etc has reached the end of its useful life it is returned to the vendor or distributor who provided it and (usually) replaced.