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lightskyland wrote:
Which lens?

Sony sonar 55mm/1.8



Dec 12, 2017 at 12:51 PM
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p.22 #2 · FM members A7R III first impressions


AFAIK, that lens should be fully supported for phase detect AF.


Dec 12, 2017 at 12:54 PM
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p.22 #3 · FM members A7R III first impressions


I was expecting the software to show up in the Adobe updates.

I manually went and did the update from Adobe's website and now it's working.



Dec 12, 2017 at 12:54 PM
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p.22 #4 · FM members A7R III first impressions


I went ahead and got Adobe LR Classic (7), even though I didn't want to but I tried getting used to Capture 11 andI am so used to LR . . . . So the desktop version of LR CC does support the III. And on I go. lol


Dec 12, 2017 at 05:34 PM
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jamato8 wrote:
I went ahead and got Adobe LR Classic (7), even though I didn't want to but I tried getting used to Capture 11 andI am so used to LR . . . . So the desktop version of LR CC does support the III. And on I go. lol


Can you please provide a link.

On Adobe's site, the latest version of LR is 6.13.



Dec 12, 2017 at 07:05 PM
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p.22 #6 · FM members A7R III first impressions


lambers wrote:
Can you please provide a link.

On Adobe's site, the latest version of LR is 6.13.


I signed up for the CC version that you pay for months, not the perpetual. LR 6.13 may be the last update. They want everyone to go with the subscription service. For that you go to Adobe and then sign up for what service you want. I got LR Classic and Photo Shop but I hardly use PS any longer.



Dec 12, 2017 at 10:02 PM
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p.22 #7 · FM members A7R III first impressions


jamato8 wrote:
I signed up for the CC version that you pay for months, not the perpetual. LR 6.13 may be the last update. They want everyone to go with the subscription service. For that you go to Adobe and then sign up for what service you want. I got LR Classic and Photo Shop but I hardly use PS any longer.


Thanks, got it. By Classic I thought that you meant stand-alone.



Dec 12, 2017 at 10:52 PM
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lambers wrote:
Thanks, got it. By Classic I thought that you meant stand-alone.


That is what I thought at first also. In fact a person on chat from Adobe told me that LR6 would be updated but the next day I found out they were wrong and I had to either get the LR Classic CC (LR7) or go to a different software and I am just too comfortable and used to LR so I am using the downloadable desktop version that you have to pay 9.99 each month for and of course it also gives you Cloud but I don't want to use the cloud.




Dec 12, 2017 at 11:01 PM
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I am very impressed with Sony A7R3 Autofocus. I am coming from A9. Tonight I shot about 900 photos in my child's Teakwondo class. Crappy light. Most photos I shot with Electronic Shutter Mode at either 8 or 10fps. 99.99% of photos in focus!!!!!! And Zero and I mean Zero rolling shutter. That last part is special, because people were saying the rolling shutter on A7R3 is terrible. I am yet to see it. I don't shoot helicopters blades or golf swings, but for running children, it is great. Bottom line other than 20fps vs 10fps, my hit rate with A7R3 is just as good as with A9.
Also forgot to mention, I took 900 shots and two videos, previewed photos, and my battery went down 20%. Same performance as with A9
this is just a jpeg
https://photos.smugmug.com/Photography/Sony-85-18-FE/i-dg4XxRj/0/47034322/XL/DSC03676-XL.jpg



Dec 12, 2017 at 11:12 PM
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p.22 #10 · FM members A7R III first impressions


This A7RIII is a beast, especially when it's paired with 24-70 GM

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4593/27244712059_e23b7fcae1_c.jpg


https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4522/25151509508_cae967784f_c.jpg



Dec 12, 2017 at 11:36 PM
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RAW support of A7R3?

I'm not seeing it.



It’s specifically in the “what’s new notes”, several cameras had support added.



Dec 13, 2017 at 12:31 AM
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frank gross wrote:
Thanks for clearing this up for me. I see now that I was confusing showing or not showing the PD area on the screen with using or not using PD.
And that being able to use Phase Detection (PD) is a function of the lens itself.
I kinda feel like the menu option of showing the area should be greyed out if the mounted lens can’t support it.

I’m kinda disappointed that my first lens can’t support Phase Detection. But c’est la vie. I really wanted small, light, fast aperture lenses for the Sony. Size was a big factor in
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You still appear to be confused because your first lens does support Phase Detection. tn1krr correctly pointed out that “With native E mount lenses (and Sigma Art/Global vision on MC-11 adapter) you cannot turn phase detection on/off, You can turn "Phase Detect. Area" display on/off but the lenses mentioned above are always using hybrid AF (both PDAF and CDAF).” The Sonnar FE 55/1.8 is a native lens. The Phase Detect. Area display menu item is not grayed out because the 55/1.8 is using both PDAF and CDAF as appropriate.



Dec 13, 2017 at 03:39 PM
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.You still appear to be confused because your first lens does support Phase Detection....

Yes I was still unclear. So it uses phase detection and contrast detection automatically by virtue of its connection with the camera. Nothing that I have to set. I only set whether or not to display the area that phase detection works within (when it chooses to switch from contrast to phase)



Dec 13, 2017 at 10:12 PM
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p.22 #14 · FM members A7R III first impressions


frank gross wrote:
.You still appear to be confused because your first lens does support Phase Detection....

Yes I was still unclear. So it uses phase detection and contrast detection automatically by virtue of its connection with the camera. Nothing that I have to set. I only set whether or not to display the area that phase detection works within (when it chooses to switch from contrast to phase)


Exactly. Situations where you'll need to manually choose Phase or Contrast Detection AF include:
* using a SAM/SSM A-mount lens with an LA-EA3 adapter; or
* using a manual focus lens with an autofocus adapter such as the Techart PRO (which emulates the LA-EA3).



Dec 13, 2017 at 10:44 PM
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I am very impressed with Sony A7R3 Autofocus. ....

Would you mind sharing your pertinent settings/setup on the shot of the two boys? I do quite a lot of indoor low-light photography of my grandchildren playing around the house. It’s a much tighter space, a small home, They go from static to running, jumping, backwards and forwards, static... it’s pretty unpredictable and I have to be ready for anything.





Dec 13, 2017 at 10:58 PM
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absolutic wrote:
I am very impressed with Sony A7R3 Autofocus. I am coming from A9. Tonight I shot about 900 photos in my child's Teakwondo class. Crappy light. Most photos I shot with Electronic Shutter Mode at either 8 or 10fps. 99.99% of photos in focus!!!!!! And Zero and I mean Zero rolling shutter. That last part is special, because people were saying the rolling shutter on A7R3 is terrible. I am yet to see it. I don't shoot helicopters blades or golf swings, but for running children, it is great. Bottom line other than 20fps vs 10fps, my hit rate with
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I had similar experience. Very impressive AF tracking.
I posted some samples here.
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1520157/7#14276116

My son was riding his bike fast or running towards me. Most of my images were in perfect focus. My tracking setting was "4".

Compressed RAW and AF-C gave me almost no rolling shutter either in Silent mode. Of course faster sports would be a different story.



Dec 13, 2017 at 11:22 PM
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Yesterday, I tested AF tracking and got pretty much all sharp images while shooting my son riding his bike and running towards me. Better results than I could get with my A7R II. (Tracking is similar or even better than A6500)

What's nice is that I shot with Silent shutter, High FPS, compressed raw and continuous-mode which gave me 1/30s sensor scan time...so no noticeable skew with this type of motion.

I also shot with the new metering mode: "Highlight" + 2EV compensation and gave me automated ETTR for my images. All highlight detail was preserved and I got very clean
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Lovely pictures Fred. I love your metering of Highllight +2, it works so well. For my initial test shots I prefer 1.7 just to give me a little more detail and leeway in ACR so I don’t have to drag the highlight slider all the way down to -100. Not better but just personal taste as I love lots of highlight detail (flat lit snow etc).

Which focus area do you selects for shots like this of your boy - wide, zone, flex (expanded) ? Any other focus related settings you care to share would be apppreciated. I do a lot of pics of my grandchildren mostly indoors (without flash) and quite bewildered by all the settings. I started out when you were limited by the film iso, and only had Aperture and Shutter to set. It was a big deal when they cameras included a meter with a needle that you could use ha ha ha😊
Now you drown in choices. But hopefully they all become familiar enough, or can get set to shorten the space between seeing and making a picture successfully



Dec 14, 2017 at 07:15 AM
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p.22 #18 · FM members A7R III first impressions


Fred Miranda wrote:
I had similar experience. Very impressive AF tracking.
I posted some samples here.
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1520157/7#14276116

My son was riding his bike fast or running towards me. Most of my images were in perfect focus. My tracking setting was "4".

Compressed RAW and AF-C gave me almost no rolling shutter either in Silent mode. Of course faster sports would be a different story.


Good looking son you got, Fred!!!! Great shots!




Dec 14, 2017 at 09:44 AM
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p.22 #19 · FM members A7R III first impressions


frank gross wrote:
Would you mind sharing your pertinent settings/setup on the shot of the two boys? I do quite a lot of indoor low-light photography of my grandchildren playing around the house. It’s a much tighter space, a small home, They go from static to running, jumping, backwards and forwards, static... it’s pretty unpredictable and I have to be ready for anything.



I think a7r3 would be a perfect camera for what you describe. That or a9. I shot at 1/400 most of the time at takwando. I find that 1/400 does the job of freezing active kids. In terms of af area it depends. When you have just one kids face in photo, it is easier for the camera. When you have multiple and they all look the same from far way the face recognition may get confused jumping at a different kid. That happened to me couple times even thought my child’s face is registered. But most of the time it will find the right kid. Then press and hold the button you picked for eye detection and use 8ps or 10fps bursts. I fell like I never ran out of buffer




Dec 14, 2017 at 09:53 AM
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p.22 #20 · FM members A7R III first impressions


Thanks for this.
I have 4 grandsons often playing together so I don’t think face recognition/registering is an option.
So just press and hold Eye AF whhich ive assigned to the AEL button
Focus mode - continuous af
Drive mode - continuous shooting hi



Dec 14, 2017 at 10:16 AM
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