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p.15 #1 · 7Artisans 50mm f/1.1 in Leica M Mount


A conventional shot:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4660/39397050944_ac2dc33afc_o.jpg



Mar 02, 2018 at 07:37 PM
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p.15 #2 · 7Artisans 50mm f/1.1 in Leica M Mount


robsonj wrote:
This is from the M, might try it on the Sony tonight with the TAP adapter...

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4716/25711820657_f0bc7e079d_b.jpg
L1004190.jpg by Jonathan Robson, on Flickr


Which M? I found with my M240 I can get purple edges and smearing wide open. Stuff I do not see with this lens on Sonys. I also find this lens perfect on film.




Mar 02, 2018 at 07:46 PM
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p.15 #3 · 7Artisans 50mm f/1.1 in Leica M Mount


It’s a 240, I haven’t noticed purple fringing, plenty of smearing, I think I need to fine tune its focus some more also for the M, will try to get some colour shots over the weekend from the M.

Desmolicious wrote:
Which M? I found with my M240 I can get purple edges and smearing wide open. Stuff I do not see with this lens on Sonys. I also find this lens perfect on film.






Mar 02, 2018 at 09:45 PM
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p.15 #4 · 7Artisans 50mm f/1.1 in Leica M Mount


Stopped down a bit?

DaveFP wrote:
A conventional shot:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4660/39397050944_ac2dc33afc_o.jpg





Mar 02, 2018 at 09:46 PM
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p.15 #5 · 7Artisans 50mm f/1.1 in Leica M Mount


robsonj wrote:
Stopped down a bit?



Yep. Can't remember aperture but it was stopped down. That's why I labeled it "conventional". Still think the rendering is characterful.




Mar 02, 2018 at 09:53 PM
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p.15 #6 · 7Artisans 50mm f/1.1 in Leica M Mount


I'm tempted to pop mine on the M6 and run a roll of across or triX, but I'm leery about fine tuning focus on a film body. That is the main reason I'm planning on using this strictly on an A7 series camera.

If I were to shoot this on film, I don't think I'd take serious shots wide open (where focus would be critical).

@Desmolicious, do you have your focus fine tuned on your copy?



Mar 02, 2018 at 10:28 PM
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p.15 #7 · 7Artisans 50mm f/1.1 in Leica M Mount


Alpha_Geist wrote:
I'm tempted to pop mine on the M6 and run a roll of across or triX, but I'm leery about fine tuning focus on a film body. That is the main reason I'm planning on using this strictly on an A7 series camera.

If I were to shoot this on film, I don't think I'd take serious shots wide open (where focus would be critical).

@Desmolicious@, do you have your focus fine tuned on your copy?


I fine tuned both my copies on my M240. They are now perfect on the M and on my film bodies.
I have no issues wide open either on film or digital. This lens performs better on film as I do not get smearing or colour edges. There is a thread somewhere here where I showed a bunch of film shots.
FYI both my lenses were bought used and I think the previous owners 'adjusted' the focus. On one of them the adjustment was so far off I think that's why he sold it. It take just a tiny bit to make a difference.

If you are in the LA area you could use my M to fine tune your focus, so you can use it wide open on your M6.

edit - I've heard that new out of the box they don't need any adjustment for M bodies. So if u bought yours new, just shoot a roll on your M6 and check it out.




Mar 03, 2018 at 01:23 AM
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p.15 #8 · 7Artisans 50mm f/1.1 in Leica M Mount


Still undecided, on this lens. What makes me undecided is the classic rendering of the lens, I like it, but I also have other legacy lenses that can give me that also. What it has that those doesn't have is the f1.1, but there is a good bit of glow there, so then I find myself backing off to 1.4ish, then I'm in the f-stop land of my other legacy lenses.


A7rII + TAP by Jonathan Robson, on Flickr



Mar 03, 2018 at 09:37 AM
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p.15 #9 · 7Artisans 50mm f/1.1 in Leica M Mount


I decided to goof around with this lens after dropping off my oldest McNugget at Yochien (Japanese Kindergarten) on Sacramento State campus. I had my model for the day in a stroller as we strolled around campus taking in the fresh air and watching the squirrels go nuts on the wet grass. It rained yesterday, so the ground was still wet, the air clean and the clouds stood out against a nicely saturated blue sky...which is a bit rare over in these neck of the woods. I had the lens mounted on a VME M to E mount adapter on my monochrome converted A7RII, or A7RII(m) as Vivek and I call it.

I did try a 55mm B+W Yellow Green filter the day the lens was deilvered, but that filter made the lens vignette wide open. I opted to leave it off and keep the lens "stock". One thing to note, when this lens is stopped down all the way to f/16, vignetting is very present and the corners never clear up. No biggie! I wasn't expecting this to be anything other than a character lens.

The lens is small...ish and yet dense. This is the fastest lens I own, and other than playing with the 50/.95 Nocti at a Leica boutique, I was impressed with the speed of this lens for its size. As mentioned from others, the focus throw is not very long at all. It's less than a 90º throw. My guess would be ~75º-80º throw. The lens cap is metal and slides over the lens like some of the Leica Summarits or the 50/2 APO, but much larger (in diameter). The focus throw is very smooth and even with the short throw, it isn't difficult to discern what's in focus with in-camera focus aids (peaking).

Having never owned a lens this fast before, I quickly learned that when shooting wide open, your center (Zone A?) is the sharpest area. (Duh! Haha) I tried some rule of thirds compositions wide open where Mini-Me never seemed to get acceptable sharp...yet his shoulder or lower part of his sweater was, which was either in or very close to the center. Lesson learned after loading up the photos in LR when I got home. I didn't bother to 100% zoom after taking the shot as I assumed the photo would be soft anyways.

Wide open, the low contrast glow is very apparent and stopped down to ~f/1.4, the contrast increases and the glow is pretty much absent. For the photos below, with the exception of one, I shot wide open up to f/2. If you see glow, that's a dead ringer it was captured wide open. The other shots aren't very obvious as far as aperture (and character) goes despite a slight increase in DOF. Also, it doesn't take much to make this lens flare at all, especially so wide open. I kind of actually like the flared look.

After a short lap around campus with this lens on a nice sunny day, I can say that I wasn't expecting much, but came away really liking the lens. It is a character lens and won't be my usual walk around lens, but if I'm feeling a hankering from some moody shots or some distinct portraits, then this lens will be either on my camera or in my bag. In fact, I'm thinking of taking it with me for Fanime in May, with some stobes and modifiers for a different than my usual take on convention cosplayer portraits.

The Zeiss 50/1.5 ZM should arrive sometime this coming week. If the weather plays nice, I should have some more shots and a better understanding on how these two lenses compare at similar apertures.

All photos were converted to DNG format with Monochrome2DNG (who also makes FastRawViewer) which saves the original Raw file as a true monochrome DNG. (Automatic monochrome recognition and mosaic pattern suppresion). This is practically a MUST for monochrome converted cameras!!! Once the files were batch converted to DNG, they were imported in LR and tweaked very slightly.

Last shot @ f/16


7artisans 50mm F1.1 by Alpha Geist, on Flickr


7artisans 50mm F1.1 by Alpha Geist, on Flickr


7artisans 50mm F1.1 by Alpha Geist, on Flickr


7artisans 50mm F1.1 by Alpha Geist, on Flickr


7artisans 50mm F1.1 by Alpha Geist, on Flickr


7artisans 50mm F1.1 (@f/16) by Alpha Geist, on Flickr



Mar 03, 2018 at 11:23 PM
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p.15 #10 · 7Artisans 50mm f/1.1 in Leica M Mount


For those new to this lens, the sweet spot for shooting near wide open is an aperture set about half way between wide open and the f/1.4 marking. I call this f/1.2 and it offers nearly the same blur and bokeh it has wide open without the glow and the added contrast you see at f/1.4. It’s the ideal aperture for this lens in my experience and I might as well glue it at this setting as no other aperture has much use to me on this lens


Mar 04, 2018 at 08:05 PM
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p.15 #11 · 7Artisans 50mm f/1.1 in Leica M Mount


A few more from earlier today with the A7RII(m).

Bubble Time!


7artisans 50mm F1.1 by Alpha Geist, on Flickr


7artisans 50mm F1.1 by Alpha Geist, on Flickr


7artisans 50mm F1.1 by Alpha Geist, on Flickr


7artisans 50mm F1.1 by Alpha Geist, on Flickr


7artisans 50mm F1.1 by Alpha Geist, on Flickr



Mar 04, 2018 at 09:12 PM
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p.15 #12 · 7Artisans 50mm f/1.1 in Leica M Mount


I'm so glad that I've stumbled upon this thread, it made me buy this lens almost instantly. I really like the look it produces, the images have a nice painterly look to them. It just needs to be stopped down a tiny little bit, it certainly has a unique character.

Here are a few images...

















Mar 09, 2018 at 06:50 AM
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p.15 #13 · 7Artisans 50mm f/1.1 in Leica M Mount


I was never much for flower shots but this lens makes them fun. Both on a7riii. This lens is really fun for b/w but it does render nice colors. First is stopped down just a touch, second wide open. It smears a little.













Mar 23, 2018 at 06:21 AM
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p.15 #14 · 7Artisans 50mm f/1.1 in Leica M Mount


one thing i like about this lens is how it renders the blur and light and how it flares. some people don't like that but i love it. i was bored and saw light coming through my window and wanted to take a shot.

with my iPhone to show what it was lol

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/821/40309022654_5ac537f8a7_b.jpg


through the lens at 1.1

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/791/40308905004_8c6d482aa5_b.jpg



Mar 25, 2018 at 07:45 PM
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p.15 #15 · 7Artisans 50mm f/1.1 in Leica M Mount


booja wrote:

one thing i like about this lens is how it renders the blur and light and how it flares. some people don't like that but i love it. i was bored and saw light coming through my window and wanted to take a shot.

with my iPhone to show what it was lol

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/821/40309022654_5ac537f8a7_b.jpg


through the lens at 1.1

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/791/40308905004_8c6d482aa5_b.jpg

Agreed. While I definitely recognize that the look doesn’t float everyone’s boat, the way the 7A handles flare and stray light/backlight is probably the one thing I love the most about it. Makes everything look other-worldly.

Side note - been neglecting this thread for a bit since the Voigtlander 40 arrived. Hopefully I’ll get the itch to throw the 7A back on again soon.



Mar 25, 2018 at 08:40 PM
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p.15 #16 · 7Artisans 50mm f/1.1 in Leica M Mount


booja wrote:

one thing i like about this lens is how it renders the blur and light and how it flares. some people don't like that but i love it. i was bored and saw light coming through my window and wanted to take a shot.

with my iPhone to show what it was lol

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/821/40309022654_5ac537f8a7_b.jpg


through the lens at 1.1

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/791/40308905004_8c6d482aa5_b.jpg


That's almost a spiritual difference!



Mar 25, 2018 at 08:52 PM
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p.15 #17 · 7Artisans 50mm f/1.1 in Leica M Mount


used this lens more today. im starting to like this lens more and more each time i use it

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/796/26279345877_b19b35534a_b.jpg



Apr 01, 2018 at 01:12 AM
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p.15 #18 · 7Artisans 50mm f/1.1 in Leica M Mount


Went to the orchid show. These are SOOC, as much as a JPG ever is, especially when transferred by wifi and resized for the forum. Trippy!



















Apr 04, 2018 at 01:06 PM
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p.15 #19 · 7Artisans 50mm f/1.1 in Leica M Mount


elizabeth77 wrote:
Went to the orchid show. These are SOOC, as much as a JPG ever is, especially when transferred by wifi and resized for the forum. Trippy!


Sweeeeeeet! I'm usually not a big fan of flower shots but I love the second and third shots. They just reminded me that I need to switch back from the VM 40 for a bit. lol.



Apr 04, 2018 at 01:13 PM
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p.15 #20 · 7Artisans 50mm f/1.1 in Leica M Mount


JohnDizzo15 wrote:
Sweeeeeeet! I'm usually not a big fan of flower shots but I love the second and third shots. They just reminded me that I need to switch back from the VM 40 for a bit. lol.


Yeah, I'm not really one for flowers either but thought it would be fun to see what I could get. I have mostly shot objects with this lens so far, really need to get some portraits. We don't have kids yet so I don't have readily available models



Apr 04, 2018 at 03:35 PM
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