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Archive 2017 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!

  
 
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p.19 #1 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!


PrecisionPhoto wrote:
When is the A9R predicted to be introduced ?
Note the phototype has only 4 screws


Since no camera by that name has ever been announced by Sony, I wouldn't put any stock in that or any other depiction or specification you find on the internet.



Oct 25, 2017 at 09:36 PM
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p.19 #2 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!


The A9R is about as likely as a Nikon D5X - NOT LIKELY.

PrecisionPhoto wrote:
When is the A9R predicted to be introduced ?
Note the phototype has only 4 screws




Oct 25, 2017 at 09:36 PM
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p.19 #3 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!


Of course I bought a Zeiss 24-70 last month...


Oct 25, 2017 at 09:37 PM
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p.19 #4 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!


why are people so impatient, with sony you only have to wait weeks for the next camera release...


Oct 25, 2017 at 09:37 PM
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p.19 #5 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!


Agreed, a9 is like the 1DXii and D5. No need for an 'R' after it.
The a9ii might have 30mpx and 30fps though
and the Gods might smile and find 2 x UHS-II slots.



Oct 25, 2017 at 09:39 PM
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p.19 #6 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!


mitesh wrote:
Since no camera by that name has ever been announced by Sony, I wouldn't put any stock in that or any other depiction or specification you find on the internet.


I mean 9R sorry



Oct 25, 2017 at 09:43 PM
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p.19 #7 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!


canon had split the pro line between 1ds and 1d ,it worked a lot of people didnt like the loss of the 1ds line.


Oct 25, 2017 at 09:43 PM
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p.19 #8 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!


RobDickinson wrote:
why are people so impatient, with sony you only have to wait weeks for the next camera release...


That may take 2 years + 4 months though. Things have changed.



Oct 25, 2017 at 09:46 PM
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p.19 #9 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!


Yeah, if you've got the a7r2, I can see where this one may not be worth the cost of upgrading. Personally, I see dual cards (one being faster) and a bigger battery as the two biggest factors as to why I'd now upgrade to a Sony a7.

Were you able to try the Sony vs the 5dmk4 for astro? How much difference did the star eater problem have between the shots? Really hoping they haven't added the same issue into the new one here

RobDickinson wrote:
Theres nothing I see which is a must have for this for me.

Increased DR well ~ 1 top if it happens would be ok but I am very sceptical without resorting to nikon like base iso 64.
Dual cards - meh
bigger battery - downside
better viewfinder - good
af/fps - couldnt give a stuff. Looks like the sensor/pdaf points are the same just tweaked software.
Loss of apps - incredulous. Ok never really pushed these and its a pain to do but there are some good ones.

Sony give me a decent firmware for the a7r mk2 fix the star eater bugs and
...Show more



Oct 25, 2017 at 10:08 PM
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p.19 #10 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!


Pixel Perfect wrote:
Sony have redesigned the circuitry around the sensor to lower the noise floor. If the read noise is lower then DR can be improved. Only the sensor is the same, not the rest of the circuitry and imaging pipeline. Of course measurements will verify this, but it would be a silly thing to claim when it can be easily checked.


Well, we'll see. I find it interesting that in the actual product page for the camera they are really claiming nothing and nothing nearly so concrete. The noise floor was already quite low on the A7rII, so I remain skeptical. If they did lower the noise floor I stick by my assessment that it won't increase DR more than about a quarter of a stop.



Oct 25, 2017 at 10:16 PM
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p.19 #11 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!


I thought Sony would release A7III before A7RIII. From A7II to A7RIII is a big upgrade and probably I will do it.



Oct 25, 2017 at 10:25 PM
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p.19 #12 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!


umsl12 wrote:
I thought Sony would release A7III before A7RIII. From A7II to A7RIII is a big upgrade and probably I will do it.


All the rumour sites have been saying for at least a month A7III is next camera and will be A9 lite, same AF system, just shoots slower.

I knew as soon as I saw the massive price rebates on the A7RII it was bout to be replaced, but I expected they'd wait a month or two.



Oct 25, 2017 at 10:33 PM
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p.19 #13 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!


I said a a A9r 56 mpx. I was on the right track. Lol


Oct 25, 2017 at 10:35 PM
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p.19 #14 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!


Steve Spencer wrote:
Well, we'll see. I find it interesting that in the actual product page for the camera they are really claiming nothing and nothing nearly so concrete. The noise floor was already quite low on the A7rII, so I remain skeptical. If they did lower the noise floor I stick by my assessment that it won't increase DR more than about a quarter of a stop.


It might be a case of DxO shows 1 stop increase but the actual photographic real world DR is only 1/4 stop or so better. Read noise was already low, but things like how fast the ADC's are clocked can also introduce DR limiting noise which is why A9 DR is much lower. If they have cleaned up the whole pipeline it might not be unreasonable to see a larger than expected improvement.



Oct 25, 2017 at 10:35 PM
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p.19 #15 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!


RobDickinson wrote:
why are people so impatient, with sony you only have to wait weeks for the next camera release...


I think we waited 3 years for 7RII --> RIII, or A7II --> A7III, unless you jump around A7, A7R and A9 series ;-)



Oct 25, 2017 at 10:46 PM
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p.19 #16 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!


They'll need to clear the demand for the $2400 new a7rII, now a hot sales item, before any thoughts of the a7III.


Oct 25, 2017 at 10:48 PM
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p.19 #17 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!


I was going to preorder tomorrow but because it won’t ship till late November why not wait and hold my money till then and wait for the reviews to come in and firm up my decision


Oct 25, 2017 at 10:53 PM
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p.19 #18 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!


It seems to me that the A7R III is indeed intended as a D850 competitor (not only, but...). It adresses the complaints and wants of Sony shooters (battery life, AF, dual cards, etc...) and then adds performance where D 850 cannot match it: improved IBIS, pixel shift, fast silent shutter. To have all that for the same introductory price of A7 RII is agressive indeed in a down market.
Which brings me to the numbers released by Sony during the livestream. Theirs are up some 50% + in a down market, both for lenses and camera bodies. This indicates that their strategy is working very well indeed!



Oct 25, 2017 at 11:03 PM
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p.19 #19 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!


Do you guys think that, even though the sensor is the same, it does have a couple new things to it. Will near next "things" give better performance for range finder lenses?


Oct 25, 2017 at 11:12 PM
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p.19 #20 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!


It’s very possible it might with new circuitry and better processing engine. Not sure it would help RF lenses per say but my guess it will help using the TAP with the New focusing abilities. Bottom line I can’t imagine it being worse


Oct 25, 2017 at 11:20 PM
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