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https://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-techart-pro-leica-m-sony-e-autofocus-adapter/


Mar 08, 2018 at 12:26 PM
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dad3and3 wrote:
Maybe my searching skills aren't as good as I thought but I've looked for an explanation. What is TAP?

Thanks in advance.


Techart Pro - Leica M mount to Sony FE mount adapter which uses it's own motor to physically shift manual focus lenses back and forth in order to provide a form of autofocus.



Mar 08, 2018 at 12:32 PM
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p.88 #3 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Thanks to Phillip and John above for the explanation.


Mar 08, 2018 at 01:12 PM
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p.88 #4 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


jhinkey wrote:
I believe that was supposed to be Elpro 4 in Fred's post, at least that's what I bought and tested.


I actually did mean ElPro 3. I have both 3 and 4.
Elpro 3 is stronger with diopter +1.66. This will place the lens at infinity at the weaker range (MFD to 0.5-0.7m) and that's why I believe it's the most beneficial. (The Canon 500D is also a great choice at diopter +2 for the same reason)
This would be my choice for close-up subjects like flowers, small animals, etc.

The Elpro 4, Minolta N.0 and Proxar 2m are much weaker and therefore won't have the lens at infinity for that weak range. There will be still improvement but not as much as what I get with the stronger ones. The benefit is having a longer focus range (MFD until about 1.3-2m), so a better choice for applications like environment portraits when shooting wide-open.



Mar 08, 2018 at 06:50 PM
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p.88 #5 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Fred Miranda wrote:
I actually did mean ElPro 3. I have both 3 and 4.
Elpro 3 is stronger with diopter +1.66. This will place the lens at infinity at the weaker range (MFD to 0.5-0.7m) and that's why I believe it's the most beneficial. (The Canon 500D is also a great choice at diopter +2 for the same reason)
This would be my choice for close-up subjects like flowers, small animals, etc.

The Elpro 4, Minolta N.0 and Proxar 2m are much weaker and therefore won't have the lens at infinity for that weak range. There will be still improvement but not as much
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+1 for Fred's recommendation here.

Think of it this way: what you are trying to do is find a filter that will allow the lens to be set at infinity, while the actual distance you want to focus at is in focus.

If you want MFD to be in focus while the lens is set to infinity, you need a +1.5-+2 type of filter.
ELPRO 3 is a good, compact option, as is the Canon. Also consider the 2 diopter component of Raynox
DCR-5320PRO which is my testing is the best of them (though with a 72mm thread bulkier). There's a decent Nikon in this range as well.

But if you want the lens to be set roughly at infinity when you are focusing at a meter or so, then you need a weaker filter like ELPRO 4. Ones this weak are harder to find: SLR Magic make a set of .33 and 1.3 https://www.amazon.com/SLR-Magic-Achromatic-Diopter-0-33/dp/B00JH8KQ0A which is pretty good though it's 77mm filter thread so even more bulky but seems to have better coatings than the old ELPRO. If you use these, you should mask off the outer field of the filter front and back (can be done with a 55-77 step up on the back and a 77-55 step down on the front) to miniimzie flare from the extra diameter of glass, which otherwise undermines the benefit of the better coatings!




Mar 08, 2018 at 07:22 PM
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p.88 #6 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


I'm at the Natural Products West Expo at the Anaheim Convention Center and got these shots of some live bands performing today. I love this lens!

Mike

















Mar 09, 2018 at 12:35 AM
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antst wrote:
Thanks! Mirrorless Mover 5 and 10 were, indeed, my primary candidates.
I also have Mirrorless Mover 30i, which I like a lot.


Went to shop today and found Mirrorless Mover 10 to be too tight to be really comfortable, exactly the same as my Digital Holster 5, which I use sometimes, but with capture plate it is impossible to put/get camera quickly. So, it would not add anything to what I already have. Realised that I would love to have something just slightly more spacious than Mirrorless Mover 10, but didn't find anything from other vendors in what what was available offline.

But I could not go away with empty hands, and I bought Mirrorless mover 20. There is extra space though, for second lens (fits tightly 85/1.8). Still, reasonably small.

And I am still in search for ideal bag for camera with CV 40/1.2 and nothing else



Mar 09, 2018 at 11:28 AM
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antst wrote:
Went to shop today and found Mirrorless Mover 10 to be too tight to be really comfortable, exactly the same as my Digital Holster 5, which I use sometimes, but with capture plate it is impossible to put/get camera quickly. So, it would not add anything to what I already have. Realised that I would love to have something just slightly more spacious than Mirrorless Mover 10, but didn't find anything from other vendors in what what was available offline.

But I could not go away with empty hands, and I bought Mirrorless mover 20. There is extra space though, for
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Small Peak Design Sling



Mar 09, 2018 at 01:38 PM
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Membler wrote:
I'm at the Natural Products West Expo at the Anaheim Convention Center and got these shots of some live bands performing today. I love this lens!

Mike


I like your images. Cool captures of the bands, but in that last image were there purple lights or is that really extreme purple fringing?



Mar 09, 2018 at 01:43 PM
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Parariss wrote:
Small Peak Design Sling


It's even bigger than MM20, and I am looking for something just little bit bigger than MM10.



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p.88 #11 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Doesnt look like purple lighting

Steve Spencer wrote:
I like your images. Cool captures of the bands, but in that last image were there purple lights or is that really extreme purple fringing?




Mar 09, 2018 at 03:06 PM
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antst wrote:
Went to shop today and found Mirrorless Mover 10 to be too tight to be really comfortable, exactly the same as my Digital Holster 5, which I use sometimes, but with capture plate it is impossible to put/get camera quickly. So, it would not add anything to what I already have. Realised that I would love to have something just slightly more spacious than Mirrorless Mover 10, but didn't find anything from other vendors in what what was available offline.

But I could not go away with empty hands, and I bought Mirrorless mover 20. There is extra space though, for
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Sorry for the non-40 shots. Two of them are though... Me in the bathroom...

I'm using an Lowepro Rezo TLZ 10 pimped with some peak design anchor links for the a7RII+40/1.2 (pciture 1):
There are two ways I'm using it:
1. The obvious way with the strap on the bag and a hand cuff of peak design (picture 2+3).
2. The strap is fixed on the camera and the cuff connects the camera (over a peak design standard plate and an anchor link) with the bag. This way my camera is ALWAYS around my neck. If I want to leave the camera outside the bag. It's one click to take the bag (and the cuff) away. (other pictures).

A Lowepro Rezo TLZ 20 is also in use with larger lenses.





Lowepro Rezo TLZ + Peak Design Anchor Links + Peak Design Cuff + an old Minolta strap







Variant 1







Variant 1







Variant 2 - it's not obvious: the strap is on the camera







Variant 2 - camera and strap are connected over the peak design cuff







Variant 2 in action







Variant 2 in action




Mar 09, 2018 at 03:34 PM
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p.88 #13 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Steve Spencer wrote:
I like your images. Cool captures of the bands, but in that last image were there purple lights or is that really extreme purple fringing?


It's purple fringing. Remember this?
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1512530/2#14214274

f/1.2 + very high contrast can cause this with this lens.



Mar 09, 2018 at 05:02 PM
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p.88 #14 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Couple of the shareable shots from today. Tough light out there at around 1245.

A9 + VM 40/1.2 by John Dizzo, on Flickr
A9 + VM 40/1.2 by John Dizzo, on Flickr



Mar 09, 2018 at 05:50 PM
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p.88 #15 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Fred Miranda wrote:
It's purple fringing. Remember this?
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1512530/2#14214274

f/1.2 + very high contrast can cause this with this lens.


Wow, I had forgotten how bad that can be. Definitely, some thing to think about and avoid. What aperture does it typically go away at?



Mar 09, 2018 at 10:40 PM
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p.88 #16 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


[deleted because I know what happens on fora when people start talking about camera bags ]

Edited on Mar 10, 2018 at 03:01 PM · View previous versions



Mar 09, 2018 at 11:45 PM
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p.88 #17 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Just when everyone was looking for the 40mm 1.2 which is out of stock everywhere, in my area the Zony 35mm 1.4 is out of stock. How ironic!

But that also makes me shoot with the nokton more, giving me more time to explore the lens. It's definitely a killer for portrait, the bokeh at f1.2 just melt the background away and yet remain liquid. Landscape weren't bad either, just closer focus distance stuff lacking punch.

Perhaps I should just go but some close up filters and experiment.



Mar 10, 2018 at 05:58 AM
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p.88 #18 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Steve Spencer wrote:
I like your images. Cool captures of the bands, but in that last image were there purple lights or is that really extreme purple fringing?


I think I over cooked the files in post. Here are the same images with less post processing applied.

Mike





A7r3 and the CV Nokton 40mm f1.2 at f1.6







A7r3 and the CV 40 f1.2 at f1.2




Mar 10, 2018 at 07:25 AM
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imagesfromobjects wrote:
Wildly off-topic, but my fave bag is one I happened upon in a thrift store - TINY shoulder bag, literally fits a7 with 40/1.2 on it. I can either throw my 28/2 or my phone in as well, but not both. It's a really perfect carry-everywhere-go-minimal setup, but I'd love something *juuuuust* a hair bigger. I looked at the "5L" version of the Peak Design Sling (you know, because GAS) but it appears about twice the size of my current bag.

Any recommendations for an intermediate solution?

I'll take comments off the air...



Is the Ona Bowery too big?



Mar 10, 2018 at 09:26 AM
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p.88 #20 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Nice!







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