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Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review

  
 
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p.74 #1 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Love this lens. It’s my base lens to build around


Feb 23, 2018 at 12:10 PM
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p.74 #2 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Fantastic shot Guy! ...and same here, the 40/1.2 is becoming my favorite native lens. It can be used in so many applications.


Feb 23, 2018 at 12:41 PM
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p.74 #3 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Ditto guys! It's a great walk around lens, wonderful focal length that makes me feel like I have 35 and 50mm covered. And the lens is an awesome walk around night lens!


Feb 23, 2018 at 12:46 PM
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p.74 #4 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Thanks guys the detail coming off it is amazing. I only stopped down to F10 for DOF reason trying to get the whole thing sharp as there is maybe 2 ft between his face and the simulator and F10 seemed to get both in quite well. I love this lens at F2 as well for those shots. Love to see them update the CV 28 Ultron now to FE mount and work on the FC. Love to see that


Feb 23, 2018 at 12:57 PM
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p.74 #5 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Brief trip through Arizona. Nothing special about the shots but love the versatility of this lens.

Mike





A7r3 and the CV Nokton 40mm f1.2 at f11







A7r3 and the CV 40 f1.2 at f4 and heavy crop




Feb 23, 2018 at 02:38 PM
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p.74 #6 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


For those who have owned both Loxia 35 or CV 40, now you have had time to re-evaluate after the CV40 honeymoon period, do you see anything the CV 40 do that the L35 just cannot? Or are they very similar as a general purpose walkaround lens? Any of you would go back to L35?

I'm constantly debating between the 2. The CV40 is on backorder which give me more time to ponder.

BTW I have 16-35 GM, so 35 is kind of covered but obviously the GM is not a walkaround lens.



Feb 23, 2018 at 11:47 PM
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p.74 #7 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


gordec wrote:
For those who have owned both Loxia 35 or CV 40, now you have had time to re-evaluate after the CV40 honeymoon period, do you see anything the CV 40 do that the L35 just cannot? Or are they very similar as a general purpose walkaround lens? Any of you would go back to L35?

I'm constantly debating between the 2. The CV40 is on backorder which give me more time to ponder.

BTW I have 16-35 GM, so 35 is kind of covered but obviously the GM is not a walkaround lens.


The CV 40 has 1.2; which gives you the same separation as a 50mm f1.4 but at a wider angle. It's about the separation of a 35mm f1.0, so that's certainly a big benefit of the CV40.

The CV 40 has nicer bokeh than the L35 at f2, and is a little sharper as well at f2.

On the other hand, I marginally prefer the contrast and 'zing' of L35 stopped right down (despite the annoying aperture reflection that the CV doesn't have in extreme conditions.)

I somewhat indulgently have both. If I had to chose I'd probably go the CV, so long as I had some way for getting 35 in either a prime or a quality zoom. But in the end it comes down to what you want. If it's a manual focus environmental portrait kind of lens you want, the L35 really is not a good choice, and the CV is an excellent one (though of course it has various oddities due to it's small for f1.2 design - this is no Otus) If it's a landscape lens you want, it's a much harder choice, and I might go L35. But the CV can do both, and the Loxia struggles on the other side of things.

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Feb 24, 2018 at 12:04 AM
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GMPhotography wrote:
Thanks guys the detail coming off it is amazing. I only stopped down to F10 for DOF reason trying to get the whole thing sharp as


Wow. How did you get the man sharp at 1/3s? I usually go 1/30s even if someone is holding real still!

Edit: Is there a strobe fill?



Feb 24, 2018 at 12:05 AM
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elimoss wrote:
Wow. How did you get the man sharp at 1/3s? I usually go 1/30s even if someone is holding real still!

Edit: Is there a strobe fill?


3 flashpoint AD 200 strobes but we did have movement. Just kept shooting till we got it. I was shooting tethered and controlling it from the computer.



Feb 24, 2018 at 12:47 AM
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p.74 #10 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Anyone know how this 40/1.2 compares with the CV 35/1.2 II VM? I've been browsing through the "F/1.2 or faster", shots, and am impressed every time it shows up. I know it isn't in FE mount yet, but the way Cosina are adding these, maybe it, (and the 50/1.1?), may show up in the not too distant future.
I'm happy with both my MC 58/1.2 and OM Z 50/1.2, so the 40/1.2 is a bit close fl, (though I agree, its bokeh is lovely and smooth.)



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p.74 #11 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Some from this evening.

40CV + f=2m Proxar, except for the last one of course

The back lighting was pretty severe and the addition of the Proxar did not have any measurable degradation on the IQ from reflections.

















Feb 24, 2018 at 10:45 PM
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p.74 #12 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


I own a A7rII and a M typ 240, so still on the fence as to which mount to buy, but here is Steve’s latest comparisons between the 2mounts Incase people haven’t seen it yet...






Feb 25, 2018 at 09:58 AM
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Gotta say that Steve Huff makes a compelling argument for getting the M mount version of this lens for the Sony. http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2018/02/25/more-with-the-voigtlander-40-f-1-2-m-mount-and-e-mount/

Pros
Lighter and smaller
Color rendition
Sharper?

Cons
Lack of EXIF data
Lack of focus magnify

I was going to order the LE version today and now I'm in a quandry :-(

Personally, I'm not too worried about EXIF data. The auto focus magnify is not an issue as I have assigned a button on my a772 to focus magnify and it works great on all my other classic lenses.

Apart fro the fact that i probably need therapy, can anyone shed light on this for me?

Thanks



Feb 25, 2018 at 03:29 PM
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p.74 #14 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


RobertHolloway wrote:
Gotta say that Steve Huff makes a compelling argument for getting the M mount version of this lens for the Sony. http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2018/02/25/more-with-the-voigtlander-40-f-1-2-m-mount-and-e-mount/

Pros
Lighter and smaller
Color rendition
Sharper?

Cons
Lack of EXIF data
Lack of focus magnify

I was going to order the LE version today and now I'm in a quandry :-(

Personally, I'm not too worried about EXIF data. The auto focus magnify is not an issue as I have assigned a button on my a772 to focus magnify and it works great on all my other classic lenses.

Apart fro the fact that i probably need therapy, can anyone shed light on this for me?

Thanks


For the Sony body, the native E-mount will be better since it's optimized for the correct sensor stack thickness.

VM version sharper on Sony...doubt it. On the contrary, it will be softer towards the corners due to induced field curvature.
Better colors...doubt it (same optical design and coating)
Lighter / smaller...yes for the Leica body. Once you start adding the adapter, the difference is very small.

If the reviewer believes this is the case, I'm pretty sure it's due to copy variation than anything else.



Feb 25, 2018 at 03:34 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
For the Sony body, the native E-mount will be better since it's optimized for the correct sensor stack thickness.

VM version sharper on Sony...doubt it. On the contrary, it will be softer towards the corners due to induced field curvature.
Better colors...doubt it (same optical design and coating)
Lighter / smaller...yes for the Leica body. Once you start adding the adapter, the difference is very small.

If the reviewer believes this is the case, I'm pretty sure it's due to copy variation than anything else.


I looked at Huff’s samples, and there is something weird going on.
he says the bokeh is better on the M mount version (on M) and it does appear to have less backwards FC, reducing the tendency for the background to get sharper at the periphery.
But the difference is very large, which I simply don’t believe, so something funny is going on.

Also his colour differences are about LoCA: the Sony version has green fringing. The M version has a great desaturated halo of the kind that is a giveaway for over correction in software. I doubt if the M does LoCA correction by default or at all, so........



Feb 25, 2018 at 03:56 PM
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p.74 #16 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Just pulled the trigger on the VM Mount so will know for myself soon enough.

Agree with Fred’s assessment above that the performance moving toward the edges will more than likely suffer. I’m personally willing to sacrifice some performance in this regard in exchange for TAP-ability. Time will tell how much loss.

Btw, what are you guys using for hoods?



Feb 25, 2018 at 04:15 PM
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p.74 #17 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Playing around with the 40/1.2 during dinner..."Cold & Hot"







Feb 25, 2018 at 05:15 PM
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p.74 #18 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


I’m actually using the screw in metal hood provided on the FE version. That’s a first ever for me


Feb 25, 2018 at 05:30 PM
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p.74 #19 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


DavidBM wrote:
I looked at Huff’s samples, and there is something weird going on.
he says the bokeh is better on the M mount version (on M) and it does appear to have less backwards FC, reducing the tendency for the background to get sharper at the periphery.
But the difference is very large, which I simply don’t believe, so something funny is going on.

Also his colour differences are about LoCA: the Sony version has green fringing. The M version has a great desaturated halo of the kind that is a giveaway for over correction in software. I doubt if the M does
...Show more

I hope no one gets offended now, but Huff is a dork. He has no idea of what he's talking about.



Feb 25, 2018 at 05:32 PM
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p.74 #20 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Thanks everyone for putting me on the couch and helping me thought this
FE version it is. Rob



Feb 25, 2018 at 05:48 PM
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