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Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review

  
 
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p.150 #1 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


The best way to avoid having to switch EFCS to 'off' whenever shooting at shutter speeds above 1/2000s is to use full electronic shutter (silent shutter).
Of course, if you are shooting action without a Sony A9, this may not be the best solution as you may get some skew. Keep in mind that this bokeh rendering "ill-effect" is only noticeable with fast lenses (f/1.2 until about f/1.8). I barely see it with slower lenses.



Sep 05, 2018 at 07:08 PM
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p.150 #2 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


kdrk888 wrote:
I am not sure if this explains it: https://phillipreeve.net/blog/limitations-of-the-electronic-shutter-function/


Wow, I have never seen that before. Friggin' crazy, thanks for the link.



Sep 05, 2018 at 07:47 PM
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cputeq wrote:
Wow, I have never seen that before. Friggin' crazy, thanks for the link.


I did a quick search, it doesn't look like there is a quick way to switch the EEFC on and off, can't assign it to as one of options in FN or one of the C buttons. I could be wrong.



Sep 05, 2018 at 08:00 PM
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p.150 #4 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


kdrk888 wrote:
I did a quick search, it doesn't look like there is a quick way to switch the EEFC on and off, can't assign it to as one of options in FN or one of the C buttons. I could be wrong.


One can add it to My Menu, not as fast as a button but not bad.
Also Fred mentions to go to full E-shutter as a possible potion.



Sep 05, 2018 at 08:06 PM
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p.150 #5 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


k-h.a.w wrote:
Thanks. Wide open the difference ought to be primarily in the corners, no?
Stopping down to f/5.6 both should produce sharp images, I assume.
I. Am still thinking of getting the M mount version to use with the TAP on A9.

K-H.


That’s possible, I haven’t done scientific tests and I normally add vignette to corners... to show how important the corners are to me 😂. I tend to use this lens for its shallow DoF handling versus landscapes etc, so my corners are usually made up of bokeh.



Sep 06, 2018 at 06:04 AM
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p.150 #6 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Jman13 wrote:
Are you using the M mount version on Sony? There was a comparison posted earlier in this thread that seems to show rather significant differences. If you're using the M on a Leica body, then no, you wouldn't notice a difference, since it's designed for that cover glass.



Photos above are all on a Sony A7rII with the VM version. I do also use the 40 on my m240



Sep 06, 2018 at 06:05 AM
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p.150 #7 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


ajamils wrote:
Why keep two? Sell me the FE version


Thinking about it



Sep 06, 2018 at 06:06 AM
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p.150 #8 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Is there a significant reason to not use the full manual shutter instead of EFCS? Just the extra noise and wear?


Sep 06, 2018 at 01:27 PM
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grahamgibson wrote:
Is there a significant reason to not use the full manual shutter instead of EFCS? Just the extra noise and wear?


It can create vibrations that show up in the image at certain shutter speeds especially with longer lenses. The original A7r had this problem and the EFCS fixes it.



Sep 06, 2018 at 01:32 PM
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p.150 #10 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


robsonj wrote:
Thinking about it


Let me know if you decide to sell as I'm really curious to try out this lens.



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p.150 #11 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


I am curious...how would EFCS affect bokeh?

I also made a comparison shot with explanations:
https://flic.kr/p/28o3f9g

PS. I had the M mount version and IQ was NOT the reason I sold it and why I'm getting the FE version (just want less hassle with the EXIF data etc). I think it was pretty awesome IQ-wise and even for landscapes stopped down it was really, really sharp. Even the corners.



Sep 07, 2018 at 12:21 AM
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p.150 #12 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


A few monochrome shots, all @ f/1.2 (FE on a7II)...


6178 by Martin Hertsius, on Flickr


4442 by Martin Hertsius, on Flickr


5326 by Martin Hertsius, on Flickr



Sep 07, 2018 at 12:28 AM
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p.150 #13 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Sometimes AF would be nice. It's the reason why I often think about buying a VM version on top. But I hate to add the "same lens" just for AF.
Now the 50/1.2 VM is close to release. Is someone else also thinking about buying it? I expect it will perform quite similar to the 40/1.2 VM.



Sep 07, 2018 at 04:18 AM
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Tonzah78 wrote:
I also made a comparison shot with explanations:
https://flic.kr/p/28o3f9g

PS. I had the M mount version and IQ was NOT the reason I sold it and why I'm getting the FE version (just want less hassle with the EXIF data etc). I think it was pretty awesome IQ-wise and even for landscapes stopped down it was really, really sharp. Even the corners.


Very interesting thanks, seems Silent Shooting is the way to go (at least for not moving targets), you even spare the shutter mechanism a lot of actuations as a boon

What you are telling about the M-mount version is encouraging, as I was thinking seriously about this lens, and having a Techart Pro, the temptation to have it AF on the Sony is of course very high, but the various web comparisons with the FE's IQ have always kept me on the fence, unable to decide between the two..



Sep 07, 2018 at 05:22 AM
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sebbe wrote:
Sometimes AF would be nice. It's the reason why I often think about buying a VM version on top. But I hate to add the "same lens" just for AF.
Now the 50/1.2 VM is close to release. Is someone else also thinking about buying it? I expect it will perform quite similar to the 40/1.2 VM.


I have the FE 40/1.2 and I was a bit tempted to add this new 50/1.2 VM to my M/LTM mount collection (e.g. by trading in some of my other M/LTM lenses) but I'm holding off for now as I prefer the native FE versions and if Cosina later came up with an FE version of 50/1.2 I'd rather add that. Still waiting for the 110/2.5 and the 21/3.5 too and Batis 40/2 might come into consideration too so have to consider the overall lens budget

I have TAP also but I've not been using it so much recently. I tend to prefer shooting those M/LTM lenses manually with my small and light Rayqual adapter.



Sep 07, 2018 at 06:17 AM
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p.150 #16 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


I just finished readunf fron page one 😂 so it seems the E version will be better for my work. Now, as to which to get, the Voigt or Sony Zeiss 50. Leaning towards the compact Voigtlander.


Sep 07, 2018 at 07:05 AM
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Juha Kannisto wrote:
I have the FE 40/1.2 and I was a bit tempted to add this new 50/1.2 VM to my M/LTM mount collection (e.g. by trading in some of my other M/LTM lenses) but I'm holding off for now as I prefer the native FE versions and if Cosina later came up with an FE version of 50/1.2 I'd rather add that. Still waiting for the 110/2.5 and the 21/3.5 too and Batis 40/2 might come into consideration too so have to consider the overall lens budget

I have TAP also but I've not been using it so much recently.
...Show more

Yes Juha, it's the longer version of my own thinkings... Although I don't like the Batis handling, especially the lack of an aperture ring. But 40 is so damn nice... Then there is the 110/2.5 with macro capabilities soon... And probably all those rumours about new Sony bodies will bring other costs into account. For me, I would love to see an APSC with a9-AF and great video performance... In this case, the lenses may wait...



Sep 07, 2018 at 07:14 AM
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Makten wrote:
A few monochrome shots, all @ f/1.2 (FE on a7II)...

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1855/42717037150_2484297380_o.jpg
6178 by Martin Hertsius, on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1898/43616754885_aca94003b5_o.jpg
4442 by Martin Hertsius, on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1890/44525726581_9d2f36af27_o.jpg
5326 by Martin Hertsius, on Flickr

These are excellent, love the B&W processing



Sep 07, 2018 at 07:56 AM
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Juha Kannisto wrote:
... Still waiting for the 110/2.5 and the 21/3.5 too and Batis 40/2 might come into consideration too so have to consider the overall lens budget


YES!! We haven't heard anything new about the VE 110 or 21 now for a while. I'm really only interested in the 21 currently, but the money I'd allocated for that lens just went to a Laowa 15mm. Extremely happy with it, btw. It has already earned a firm 2nd place in my kit only because I love my 40/1.2 so so much.

Hopefully Photokina will herald a pre-order/ship date for these guys. Keep us posted if you hear anything, too!



Sep 07, 2018 at 08:56 AM
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xpfloyd wrote:
These are excellent, love the B&W processing


Thanks! I've applied a custom curve (different for every shot) where contrast is high in the midtones, but low in shadows and highlights. Looks a lot more like film than if you just boost overall contrast.



Sep 07, 2018 at 10:27 AM
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