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Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review

  
 
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p.149 #1 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


ajamils wrote:
What is TAP? I always see people mentioning it.



TechArt Pro autofocus adapter, takes Leica M mount.
But one can use additional adapters like Nikon F - M.



Sep 04, 2018 at 07:36 AM
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p.149 #2 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Tried to find if anyone has already discussed this, but what would be the an ideal 6-bit code to use for the VM 40/1.2 Nokton? I'm considering milling grooves to the original mount or subtitute it for a grooved one (I am aware I can just select an existing option manually from a list, but it's not what I'd prefer).

I've seen some using the 1.2 Noctilux coding, probably due to the aperture value, but would another lens code be more suitable considering the lens distortion/vignetting?

Many thanks!



Sep 04, 2018 at 11:11 AM
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p.149 #3 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


kdrk888 wrote:
It's TechArt adapter that lets you use Leica M mount lenses on Sony E mount, with some AF capability.


Thank you. So would it be better to get this lens in M mount with TAP or native FE mount?



Sep 04, 2018 at 02:02 PM
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p.149 #4 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


ajamils wrote:
Thank you. So would it be better to get this lens in M mount with TAP or native FE mount?


I am not technically savvy enough to give you a correct answer. If I am not mistaken, if you use the Leica M mount version via the TAP, you will not get the EXIF and the IBIS of the Sony bodies will not know the proper FL for the stabilization unless you manually enter the FL, which is a big PITA, for me. I don't know how good the AF is with the TAP, I tried it briefly with a Zeiss 125, it was not something I wanted to deal with. I am not sure if there is difference in image quality between the M version and the E version.



Sep 04, 2018 at 02:26 PM
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p.149 #5 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


The native version of the CV 40 has a different optical correction for the thicker sensor stack on the Sony sensors, so yes there is a difference in image quality in the corners (more obvious field curvature on the M version results in corners looking more in-focus than the center). There are some comparisons you should be able to find in this thread if you search.

The TAP doesn't give you the correct EXIF data, although you should be able to program the correct FL for IBIS to function.



Sep 04, 2018 at 02:57 PM
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p.149 #6 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Couple more, A7rII + TAP...


Creeping In by Jonathan Robson, on Flickr


Sleepy Hollow by Jonathan Robson, on Flickr


Black on White by Jonathan Robson, on Flickr





Sep 04, 2018 at 05:44 PM
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p.149 #7 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


kdrk888 wrote:
I am not technically savvy enough to give you a correct answer. If I am not mistaken, if you use the Leica M mount version via the TAP, you will not get the EXIF and the IBIS of the Sony bodies will not know the proper FL for the stabilization unless you manually enter the FL, which is a big PITA, for me. I don't know how good the AF is with the TAP, I tried it briefly with a Zeiss 125, it was not something I wanted to deal with. I am not sure if there is difference in
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It's possible to configure TAP so that when you take a test shot at specific aperture, it will set focal length for TAP (for example to 40mm) and then you can find this FL in EXIF for all the shots taken with this configuration although the lens name will always be a fake one. TAP will continue using the same configuration until reconfigured (even throuh power off/on). IBIS can also apply the focal length automatically when it's been set up this way with TAP.

They have the configuration app for Android that can be used to map specific apertures to specific focal lengths here:
http://techartpro.com/downloads-2/



Sep 05, 2018 at 01:03 AM
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p.149 #8 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Damn, the M mount seems very nice also.. I saw the comparison earlier on this thread that the E version nas better sharpness. But i feel the M has better rendering. Judging also from Steve Huff’s sample.


Sep 05, 2018 at 01:52 AM
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p.149 #9 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


frezeiss wrote:
Damn, the M mount seems very nice also.. I saw the comparison earlier on this thread that the E version nas better sharpness. But i feel the M has better rendering. Judging also from Steve Huff’s sample.


The M mount version can also be AF'ed with the TAP.



Sep 05, 2018 at 02:30 AM
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p.149 #10 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


k-h.a.w wrote:
The M mount version can also be AF'ed with the TAP.


Yes, AF or the extra sharpness! No sure which way I go for, yet



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p.149 #11 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


The sharpness hit appears to be pretty large. I wouldn't mind having AF on this lensz but not at the expense of that much image quality.


Sep 05, 2018 at 05:03 AM
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p.149 #12 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


I have both the E and M version. Can’t say I have noticed any difference in sharpness.


Sep 05, 2018 at 06:05 AM
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p.149 #13 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


robsonj wrote:
I have both the E and M version. Can’t say I have noticed any difference in sharpness.


Thanks. Wide open the difference ought to be primarily in the corners, no?
Stopping down to f/5.6 both should produce sharp images, I assume.
I. Am still thinking of getting the M mount version to use with the TAP on A9.

K-H.



Sep 05, 2018 at 11:02 AM
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p.149 #14 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


High contrast jpeg,out of camera
A7R3 w/CV40







Sep 05, 2018 at 11:08 AM
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p.149 #15 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


Are you using the M mount version on Sony? There was a comparison posted earlier in this thread that seems to show rather significant differences. If you're using the M on a Leica body, then no, you wouldn't notice a difference, since it's designed for that cover glass.

robsonj wrote:
I have both the E and M version. Can’t say I have noticed any difference in sharpness.




Sep 05, 2018 at 11:21 AM
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p.149 #16 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


robsonj wrote:
I have both the E and M version. Can’t say I have noticed any difference in sharpness.


Why keep two? Sell me the FE version



Sep 05, 2018 at 01:08 PM
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p.149 #17 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


frezeiss wrote:
Damn, the M mount seems very nice also.. I saw the comparison earlier on this thread that the E version nas better sharpness. But i feel the M has better rendering. Judging also from Steve Huff’s sample.


Steve Huff's comparison is flawed since he was shooting the Sony camera using EFCS which affects bokeh rendering.



Sep 05, 2018 at 03:33 PM
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p.149 #18 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


grahamgibson wrote:
Steve Huff's comparison is flawed since he was shooting the Sony camera using EFCS which affects bokeh rendering.


I am curious...how would EFCS affect bokeh?



Sep 05, 2018 at 06:07 PM
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p.149 #19 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


cputeq wrote:
I am curious...how would EFCS affect bokeh?


I am not sure if this explains it: https://phillipreeve.net/blog/limitations-of-the-electronic-shutter-function/



Sep 05, 2018 at 06:24 PM
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p.149 #20 · Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2 Nokton Review


cputeq wrote:
I am curious...how would EFCS affect bokeh?


There is a slight separation in distance between the sensor where the exposure begins and the shutter where the exposure ends and for wide aperture shots with a high shutter speed (it needs to be over 1/1000) this slight separation in distance makes the bokeh noticeably busier. With f/1.4 shots I find it pretty easy to see the difference between EFCS and fully manual shutter once you are at 1/2000 or faster and the full manual shutter just has nicer looking bokeh.



Sep 05, 2018 at 06:32 PM
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