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https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/27/nyregion/bh-electronics-store-sued-for-discrimination-of-hispanic-workers.html?mcubz=3&_r=0

Excerpt from the NY Times article: "The department contends that over a two-year period starting in January 2011, B&H hired 101 entry-level laborers at its warehouse in the Brooklyn Navy Yard. All of them were Hispanic men. None of the employees at the warehouse was a woman, the suit says.

"During the same time, at other levels in the warehouse, the company paid white workers more and promoted them faster than their Hispanic counterparts, the suit contends. Supervisors and other workers subjected Hispanic employees to verbal abuse, including “racist remarks and excessive yelling,” it says.

"The Hispanic workers had to use “unsanitary and often inoperable restrooms” that were separate from better facilities available to their white co-workers, the suit says.

"In a letter sent last year to Sam Goldstein, the chief executive of B&H, a Labor Department official recounted the unsuccessful efforts to reach a settlement with the company to avert a lawsuit. Lawyers for B&H offered $112,000 in what they called a “take-it-or-leave-it good faith offer.”



Aug 23, 2017 at 08:17 PM
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Snowflakes? So what if none were women? Perhaps no suitable women applied for the position word got out in the Hispanic community that B&H were hiring?

The toilets? Toughen up.

We'll never know because we weren't there.



Aug 23, 2017 at 09:24 PM
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"excessive yelling"? It begs the question, what is the permissible level of yelling?




Aug 23, 2017 at 10:49 PM
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Paul Mo wrote:
Snowflakes? So what if none were women? Perhaps no suitable women applied for the position word got out in the Hispanic community that B&H were hiring?

The toilets? Toughen up.

We'll never know because we weren't there.


Really, you believe what you wrote. 100 positions filled all by male hispanics and no other ethnic person or women applied?

Have any idea the odds of this?



Aug 24, 2017 at 01:00 AM
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DanBrown wrote:
"excessive yelling"? It begs the question, what is the permissible level of yelling?



Same level for Hispanic workers as other workers I would guess.



Aug 24, 2017 at 01:01 AM
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Lawsuits can also result from plotting. B&H is loaded. Let's stick it to the man. Not saying that is precisely what happened, but it can be part of such cases.


Aug 24, 2017 at 01:21 AM
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Paul Mo wrote:
Lawsuits can also result from plotting. B&H is loaded. Let's stick it to the man. Not saying that is precisely what happened, but it can be part of such cases.


Sure it can...but you don't think the alternative might also be the case? After all there has been multiple cases scanning many years.



Aug 24, 2017 at 01:56 AM
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Considering "the man" was actually the one who started the suit, I think you need to reconsider that statement. Also, there's no way in such a diverse area that you only end up with one ethnic group and one gender for those 100 jobs, unless you were discriminating and had no anti-discriminatory programs in place.

Paul Mo wrote:
Lawsuits can also result from plotting. B&H is loaded. Let's stick it to the man. Not saying that is precisely what happened, but it can be part of such cases.




Aug 24, 2017 at 06:12 AM
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chez wrote:
Same level for Hispanic workers as other workers I would guess.


After further consideration, I've concluded "excessive yelling" must be when one speaks in ALL CAPS!




Aug 24, 2017 at 07:40 AM
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PhilthePhrame wrote:
No links, Henry? Pehaps you are not working hard enough? : o )


Just as I would not expect a respected professional competitor to perpetuate rumors about us I decline to do that to them. IMO it goes to character.

Henry Posner
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Aug 24, 2017 at 10:02 AM
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rdcny wrote:
"During the same time, at other levels in the warehouse, the company paid white workers more and promoted them faster than their Hispanic counterparts, the suit contends. Supervisors and other workers subjected Hispanic employees to verbal abuse, including “racist remarks and excessive yelling,” it says.

"The Hispanic workers had to use “unsanitary and often inoperable restrooms” that were separate from better facilities available to their white co-workers, the suit says.


We have always denied these baseless accusations and continue to do so. The restroom accusation is the most ludicrous. Every person I know has a cellphone and every cellphone has a camera. Yet throughout all this no one has ever seen a photo of these “unsanitary and often inoperable restrooms” anywhere online because there are no such photos. And why not? Because there were and are no such restrooms.

Henry Posner
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Aug 24, 2017 at 10:06 AM
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henryp wrote:
Just as I would not expect a respected professional competitor to perpetuate rumors about us I decline to do that to them. IMO it goes to character.

Henry Posner
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Henry, with respect, you are casting general aspersions and perpetuating vague rumours about your competitors without offering any proof. IMO that goes to character.



Aug 24, 2017 at 10:14 AM
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PhilthePhrame wrote:
Henry, with respect, you are casting general aspersions and perpetuating vague rumours about your competitors without offering any proof. IMO that goes to character.


IMO you are mistaken. I have carefully avoided casting aspersions (or making any implication) on any competitor and in fact have not even named which competitor. As others point out in these forums frequently, there are plenty from which to choose.

Henry Posner
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Aug 24, 2017 at 10:22 AM
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PhilthePhrame wrote:
Henry, with respect, you are casting general aspersions and perpetuating vague rumours about your competitors without offering any proof. IMO that goes to character.


Here you go:

http://www.nj.com/union/index.ssf/2015/02/workers_at_elizabeth_warehouse_claim_they_were_fir.html

The warehouse workers took it to a vote on 3/27/15, and chose to remain union-free by the following count: 78% against the union & 22% for the union.



Aug 24, 2017 at 10:35 AM
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Helen Oster wrote:
Here you go:

http://www.nj.com/union/index.ssf/2015/02/workers_at_elizabeth_warehouse_claim_they_were_fir.html

The warehouse workers took it to a vote on 3/27/15, and chose to remain union-free by the following count: 78% against the union & 22% for the union.


Thank you, Helen. I appreciate Adorama's transparency.





Aug 24, 2017 at 03:57 PM
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Thank you, Helen. I appreciate Adorama's transparency.



It's easily found by doing a Google search - and Henry is too much of a gentleman to say it.






Aug 24, 2017 at 04:12 PM
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It's easily found by doing a Google search - and Henry is too much of a gentleman to say it.



Easy indeed, if it occurs to you to Google "Adorama labor unrest", which it wouldn't unless Henry, the gentleman, hadn't already implied it.
But, don't let me intrude on Helen and Henry's tender moment, as you waltz into the sunset. I'm out of this.



Aug 24, 2017 at 09:18 PM
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It's easily found by doing a Google search - and Henry is too much of a gentleman to say it.

Thank you. Very gracious of you to say so.

Henry Posner
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Aug 25, 2017 at 10:09 AM
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to be fair...

http://time.com/956/how-amazon-crushed-the-union-movement/


robotization will keep eating away at these jobs no matter what



Aug 25, 2017 at 02:24 PM
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p.3 #20 · B&H to Pay $3.22M to Settle Lawsuit Filed by the Dept. of Labor


I really never though this would go as far as it has. we all have to come to grips that we are all the most pompous self serving fools around. we like to feel we have the moral high ground when in reality we are just people. we the people who can't really get out of our own way and realize what we really do. if we all really looked really within and saw reality we'd pretty much keep our mouths shut. I know where I stand and its not perfectly level here. I take my attitude adjustments and learn from them. well at least most of the time.

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