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p.4 #1 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


I can do 16mm more like 17 with my Breakthrough CPL and a thin 77 blank filter.

I tried a step down and it sees it early on.



Aug 22, 2017 at 12:23 PM
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p.4 #2 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


I've been using 77mm ND filters (3,6 and 10 stop) in the field and it works great with the 12-24/4. It's very easy to attach them and they don't take much space in my bag. I highly recommend them as an alternative to big adapters (150mm filters) for this lens. The only downside is that I can't use it from 12-13mm for NDs. (and 12-15mm for the C-POL). I'm doing image averaging this if I want a ND effect.

Here is a sample using a 6-stop ND filter:







Dec 02, 2017 at 12:31 AM
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p.4 #3 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


New filter option:

https://www.loca.design/product-page/sony-12-24mm-%E5%B0%82%E7%94%A8%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%83%AB%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AB%E3%83%80%E3%83%BC



Dec 06, 2017 at 05:21 PM
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p.4 #4 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


Parariss wrote:
New filter option:

https://www.loca.design/product-page/sony-12-24mm-%E5%B0%82%E7%94%A8%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%83%AB%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AB%E3%83%80%E3%83%BC


Here is what google translates:

【KANI】 SONY 12-24 mm exclusive filter holder
Sony 12-24 mm exclusive filter holder
 
It is designed to fix in a shape that sandwiches the lens.
Using an optional adapter ring makes it possible to use it for a lens aperture of 95 mm or less. It is a specification that listens to the opinion of the person who uses it to the utmost.

________________

So, it looks like a custom 150mm filter holder for the 12-24/4 G that can also be used with optional adapter rings for other lenses.

Correct me if I got this wrong...



Dec 06, 2017 at 05:42 PM
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p.4 #5 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


Fred, I think that is a 150mm holder. I can't read it, but the photos appear to show 150mm.

I don't think there is any way to mount a 100 without some vignetting at the short end. I tried it with my 100mm kit hand holding a few filters at the end of the hood, and they become visible somewhere around 15-16mm if I recall correctly.



Dec 06, 2017 at 05:48 PM
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p.4 #6 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


The mention of 95mm is because of the collar size and it appears that you can remove the 12-24 dedicated adapter and replace it with another one:

https://www.loca.design/product-page/kani-150-adapter-ring-for-95mm-down-ring-86-95-82-95-77-95

That one will then make it a 'generic' for any lens without a built-in hood.

This is one of the key points about the Nisi that I don't like; You can't remove the specialized adapter for the 12-24 and use it on other lenses easily. I worked out a way to do it, but it isn't necessarily ideal.



Dec 06, 2017 at 05:53 PM
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p.4 #7 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


mjm6 wrote:
The mention of 95mm is because of the collar size and it appears that you can remove the 12-24 dedicated adapter and replace it with another one:

https://www.loca.design/product-page/kani-150-adapter-ring-for-95mm-down-ring-86-95-82-95-77-95

That one will then make it a 'generic' for any lens without a built-in hood.

This is one of the key points about the Nisi that I don't like; You can't remove the specialized adapter for the 12-24 and use it on other lenses easily. I worked out a way to do it, but it isn't necessarily ideal.


Yes, good point. If carrying 150mm filters, we better use them on all our lenses.

I will continue using my 77mm ND filters and for the 12-13mm range, image averaging instead.



Dec 06, 2017 at 10:06 PM
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p.4 #8 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


Nice
Is Yosemite near your home? You seem to be there so often.

Fred Miranda wrote:
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I've been using 77mm ND filters (3,6 and 10 stop) in the field and it works great with the 12-24/4. It's very easy to attach them and they takes not much space in my bag. I highly recommend them as an alternative to big adapters (150mm filters) for this lens. The only downside is that I can't use it from 12-14mm for NDs. (and 12-16mm for the C-POL)

Here is a sample using a 6-stop ND filter:




Dec 06, 2017 at 10:27 PM
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p.4 #9 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


nandadevieast wrote:
Nice
Is Yosemite near your home? You seem to be there so often.



About a 8-hour drive.



Dec 06, 2017 at 10:39 PM
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p.4 #10 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


Well, after carefully studying Nisi holder, I found that this particular one holds only two 150mm filter, and does not come with a built in polariser unlike Nisi V5 for 100mm filter.


Dec 07, 2017 at 12:35 AM
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p.4 #11 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


Mark K wrote:
Well, after carefully studying Nisi holder, I found that this particular one holds only two 150mm filter, and does not come with a built in polariser unlike Nisi V5 for 100mm filter.


You're talking about the NiSi12-2 holder? It can be bought with the NiSi CPL.

From the Australian Importers site and the one I have.

https://nisifilters.com.au/product/nisi-s5-kit-150mm-filter-holder-with-cpl-for-sony-fe-12-24mm-f-4-g/

Having said that I still don't like the holder system as not only do I have to carry another holder for *normal* lenses I also need step up rings because they don't make a single holder and different adaptor ring sizes that fit the same holder

On my old Lee 100mm system I just leave the rings on and use the Lee push on caps. Then it takes a few seconds to attach the filters holder. It works so well. I'd like something a bit less fiddly in the 150mm. Might look into Lee's 150mm system but it's near impossible to see in Oz without buying it on-line and we don't have the easy returns like the US.

Gordon




Mar 23, 2018 at 03:36 PM
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p.4 #12 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


So back in the day these FM and GM and MH guys were all "Zeiss 21 is the best". When I bought one I traded in all my 77mm filters for 82mm.

My Zeiss has long been sold. Looks like it is time to offload the 82's and pick up another 77. :-)

But seriously, great tip. This kind of stuff is just invaluable to share with others.



Mar 24, 2018 at 06:29 PM
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p.4 #13 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


Can a 82mm filter physically fit thus lens

Edited on Mar 24, 2018 at 08:57 PM · View previous versions



Mar 24, 2018 at 06:32 PM
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p.4 #14 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


Nope.

Mark K wrote:
Can a 82mm filter physically fit thus lens




Mar 24, 2018 at 07:00 PM
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p.4 #15 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


Fred, do you think a rubber band of the right diameter/thickness could work? That would be quicker to get on/off.

Sean



Mar 29, 2018 at 11:38 AM
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p.4 #16 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


Hi Fred,

i found this thread using Google and i'm very interested to use my 77mm Filter with the 12-24 Lens.

I've read that you use a Breakthrough Filter which is about 0,8" (2,032mm) in width.
The filter i want to use is just a Hoya with 0,15748" (4mm) width - not including the screw thread. Do you think this will work too?
What width of the felt tape would you suggest? I could buy 6mm or 8mm.

Thank you very much!



May 05, 2018 at 04:32 AM
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p.4 #17 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


Anyone know if this Cokin adapter would fit: Cokin Universal Adapter Ring ?

The filter holder is only another $14 & it takes 72mm filters.



May 09, 2018 at 08:37 AM
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p.4 #18 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


No you need 77mm to start with and you need filter only with felt or gaffers tape to fit inside the hood area before the lens zooms out to hit the glass. Or you go with the Nisi dedicated 150mm filter setup


May 09, 2018 at 09:23 AM
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p.4 #19 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


Ok, thanks...presumably the less expensive alternative (to Nisi) is the FotodioX


May 09, 2018 at 11:09 AM
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p.4 #20 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


Dacoco wrote:
Hi Fred,

i found this thread using Google and i'm very interested to use my 77mm Filter with the 12-24 Lens.

I've read that you use a Breakthrough Filter which is about 0,8" (2,032mm) in width.
The filter i want to use is just a Hoya with 0,15748" (4mm) width - not including the screw thread. Do you think this will work too?
What width of the felt tape would you suggest? I could buy 6mm or 8mm.

Thank you very much!


Get 1.5mm felt tape and cut it 1/4" width and ~10 inches long. Should work well with any filter even polarizers.
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1503152/2#14144452



May 09, 2018 at 11:22 AM
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