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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Sony 12-24mm f/4 G versus other lenses thread

Let me start this thread with some comparisons between the new Sony 12-24/4 ultra wide and some of my personal lenses. There are: CV 12/5.6 III, FE 16-35/4 ZA, and Loxia 21/2.8. Feel free to post your own comparisons on this thread!

These side-by-side comparisons were taken at infinity distance and they are the best of 4 for each lens. (Manual focused at 12.5x magnification). Since I know these lenses well, I am able to focused them precisely taken in consideration field curvature. The 12-24/4 appears to be flat-field starting and the low field curvature is pretty much masked by f/5.6.
Aside from sharpening (same for all lenses), the RAW files were processed in Lightroom with default settings.

*I added +35 manual vignetting correction all CV 12 files, otherwise the extreme corners would be very dark. There were no corrections done for any other lens.

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First comparison:

Sony 12-24/4G vs CV 12/5.6 III E-mount.

Center at f/5.6. The 12-24/4 is noticeably better

Mid-field at f/5.6. The 12-24/4 is much better

Extreme edges at f/5.6. The 12-24/4 is much better

Jul 06, 2017 at 08:02 PM

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Sony 12-24mm f/4 G versus other lenses thread

Same comparison as above but this time at f/8 for both lenses

Center at f/8 (They are more even at this aperture)

Mid-field at f/8 (The 12-24/4 still much better. Not much improvement for the CV 12)

Extreme edge at f/8 (The 12-24/4 is noticeably better. However, the CV 12 improves towards the corners at f/8.

Jul 06, 2017 at 08:06 PM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Sony 12-24mm f/4 G versus other lenses thread

Just using my iPad here but it is NOT looking that good for my CV 12mm...

Edited the crucial typo from using my iPad...

Edited on Jul 07, 2017 at 01:30 AM · View previous versions

Jul 06, 2017 at 08:08 PM

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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Sony 12-24mm f/4 G versus other lenses thread

My quick double take.

Center frame winner is too close to call. The extreme corners winner is the 12-24. The mid frame 12-24 wipes the floor with the CV.

Edited on Jul 06, 2017 at 08:23 PM · View previous versions

Jul 06, 2017 at 08:20 PM

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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Sony 12-24mm f/4 G versus other lenses thread

My impression when checking these files is that the 12-24/4 is better everywhere but especially at mid-zone where the CV 12/5.6 III does not improve much when stopping down from f/5.6 to f/8. To me, the 12-24/4 @12mm is the clear winner in regards to resolution and contrast.

Next, I will compare the 12-24/4 G vs 16-35/4 ZA @16mm...

Jul 06, 2017 at 08:23 PM

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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Sony 12-24mm f/4 G versus other lenses thread

Justin Stone wrote:
My quick double take.

Center frame winner is too close to call. The extreme corners winner is the 12-24. The mid frame 12-24 wipes the floor with the CV.

The CV 12 has much higher vignetting making the corners darker. On top of that, the 12-24/4 has higher contrast towards the corners as well which gives the impression of more clarity.

For the CV 12/5.6 crops, I added +35 manual vignetting correction otherwise the extreme crops would be even darker. No vignetting correction was done to the 12-24/4 crop.

Jul 06, 2017 at 08:24 PM

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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Sony 12-24mm f/4 G versus other lenses thread

Fred, you would say this is a very good copy of the 12 CV no?

Jul 06, 2017 at 08:25 PM

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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Sony 12-24mm f/4 G versus other lenses thread

Justin Stone wrote:
Fred, you would say this is a very good copy of the 12 CV no?

Yes, I went through three copies of the 12/5.6 III to get those corners. This is as good as it gets and perfectly centered. (Same for my other lenses)

Jul 06, 2017 at 08:28 PM

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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Sony 12-24mm f/4 G versus other lenses thread

Thanks Fred.

Jul 06, 2017 at 08:33 PM

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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Sony 12-24mm f/4 G versus other lenses thread

How does the FE 12-24mm f/4 G compares to the FE 16-35/4 ZA at 16mm? Will will see next...

Jul 06, 2017 at 08:40 PM

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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Sony 12-24mm f/4 G versus other lenses thread

the CV vignetting is it's biggest flaw IMO, the mid field and extreme show this, the hills and homes are so much darker.

Jul 06, 2017 at 08:40 PM

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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Sony 12-24mm f/4 G versus other lenses thread

Here are the crops starting at f/5.6 (sweet spot for both lenses)

Center at f/5.6

Mid-frame at f/5.6

Extreme edges at f/5.6

Jul 06, 2017 at 08:46 PM

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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Sony 12-24mm f/4 G versus other lenses thread

Very similar performance except towards the edges where the 12-24/4 is noticeably better with higher resolution and less astigmatism. I will post f/8 next although these lenses don't improve much from f/5.6 @16mm.

Jul 06, 2017 at 08:48 PM

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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Sony 12-24mm f/4 G versus other lenses thread

FE 12-24mm f/4 G vs FE 16-35/4 ZA at 16mm (F/8)

Jul 06, 2017 at 08:53 PM

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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Sony 12-24mm f/4 G versus other lenses thread

I would say f/8 is very similar to f/5.6. The 16-35/4 does not improve much and lose a bit of center bite.
To my eyes, the 12-24/4 G is the winner at 16mm with noticeable better corners. (they perform similarly at center and mid-field) but the FE 16-35/4 did extremely well.

Jul 06, 2017 at 08:55 PM

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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Sony 12-24mm f/4 G versus other lenses thread

It's time for Loxia 21 vs 12-24 @21mm vs 16-35 @21mm.

Starting at f/5.6.

Jul 06, 2017 at 08:56 PM

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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Sony 12-24mm f/4 G versus other lenses thread

Wow

Jul 06, 2017 at 08:57 PM

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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Sony 12-24mm f/4 G versus other lenses thread

Wow

Jul 06, 2017 at 08:57 PM

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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Sony 12-24mm f/4 G versus other lenses thread

Just wow

Jul 06, 2017 at 09:00 PM

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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Sony 12-24mm f/4 G versus other lenses thread

Oh my....this is very surprising...12-24/4 vs Loxia 21...

The Loxia 21 is my best native lens. Sharp from center to corners with mild field curvature. The thing about the Loxia is that at infinity you have to compromise center or corners as you can't have both at their higher levels even at f/5.6.

The 12-24/4 by comparison is very flat field with incredible resolution. Here are the crops...

Jul 06, 2017 at 09:01 PM


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