george malamis wrote:
how do you like it? I've been thinking about picking one up.
I just got it delivered today and spent 30 mins with it. So far looks good. The new Canon TSEs, 50mm, 90mm and 135mm are great. The older one 24mm TSE-II is not as good as these but still works. I will get Fuji 30mm f4 TS when it is out.
bobby350z wrote:
I am hoping it does go above $3k. Canon EF ones are $2300 max. If they do release RF versions mostly probably they will increase price.
We will see on the GF TS price. I am guessing $3,000. I think if Fuji raises the price too high, then it will be a rarely sold item. When comparing to Canon EF lenses keep in mind they both have a much larger market and likely a significantly smaller image circle. I expect Fuji to make a nice wide image circle so that you can get more tilt and shift than you can get with the Canon EF lenses on the 44 X 33 sensor.
My guess would be +/-15mm shift and same with the tilt. If they can do +/-20mm shift, that would be awesome. I would also like the lens to have the lens collar which the mockup didn't show. Let us see if the Fuji conference in a few days tells us anything ,more about GF lenses.
The number I saw for the 30mm t/s from Fuji was ± 16mm shift, which would make it exactly proportional to what the Canons are to 35mm - half the short distance.
Peter Figen wrote:
The number I saw for the 30mm t/s from Fuji was ± 16mm shift, which would make it exactly proportional to what the Canons are to 35mm - half the short distance.
Yes, I expect that is likely and that means a lot bigger image circle than the Canon lenses have. That larger image circle of course makes the Fuji lens harder to make, so I expect it to cost more. It also means that you will get a lot more tilt/shift function with the Fuji lens on Fuji cameras than you get with the Canon lenses on Fuji cameras.
I have dibs on the first one of these that Samy's gets but really, a 23 or 24mm would be a more useful focal length for those of us who shoot architecture, considering on a typical large interiors job shot with Canon, about three quarters of the shots are with the 17mm. I would have rather seen them be bold and go with the wider lens first but then no one asked me what I thought they should do.
The price is what the price is and if you want to play the game you find a way to buy it. If it's a tool for your work it's that much easier. I just figured that the 30 t/s will be north of $3K and closer to 4.
Peter Figen wrote:
I have dibs on the first one of these that Samy's gets but really, a 23 or 24mm would be a more useful focal length for those of us who shoot architecture, considering on a typical large interiors job shot with Canon, about three quarters of the shots are with the 17mm. I would have rather seen them be bold and go with the wider lens first but then no one asked me what I thought they should do.
The price is what the price is and if you want to play the game you find a way to buy it. If it's a tool for your work it's that much easier. I just figured that the 30 t/s will be north of $3K and closer to 4. ...Show more →
Peter, I think if the 30 is a success, then they will make a wider TS lens. It is particularly important that Fuji makes 30mm and wider lenses, because anything longer you could use something like the Rodenstock large format lenses on something like the Combo Actus and get very nice TS capabilities, but 30mm and wider that setup is fairly limited. I think they might make something like a 20mm that I think would pair nicely with the 30mm and would make the Fuji GF system a wonderful system for those who want to shoot interiors. I think a 20mm TS lens might also be popular with some landscape shooters who want to go wider than the 23mm and would like to control depth of field by changing the plane of focus.
Steve Spencer wrote:
It is particularly important that Fuji makes 30mm and wider lenses, because anything longer you could use something like the Rodenstock large format lenses on something like the Combo Actus and get very nice TS capabilities, but 30mm and wider that setup is fairly limited.
Steve, a friendly amendment on this point... According to Cambo, the widest technical camera lens you're able to use on an Actus with a Fuji GFX camera is the APO Sironar Digital 55/4.5, and that's with "restricted movements". That lens is just a re-branded APO Grandagon 55/4.5, which I've tried on GFX 50R; any amount of movement produces ugly lens cast, which needs a lens cast correction frame. A GFX camera with a BSI sensor should mitigate that somewhat. The "restricted movements" are because the big rear lens group is just about inside the housing of the GFX camera at infinity.
The HR Digaron-SW 90/5.6 is the first technical camera lens for Actus and GFX with no movement restrictions (according to Cambo's data sheet). All of the wide Rodenstock lenses you might be thinking of are out because their flange distance is too short.
So from that perspective, the field is wide open for Fuji to offer lenses with tilt-shift capabilities from normal focal length and wider to people who want native glass.
leonasj wrote:
does any tried sigma art 70mm f2.8 macro ?
Yes. It works very well on the 100s so I imagine it'd be just as good on your camera. Small. Light. Very inexpensive. Focus by wire for manual focus is a bit weird at times but the autofocus works well too. And it's 1:1.
Peter Figen wrote:
Yes. It works very well on the 100s so I imagine it'd be just as good on your camera. Small. Light. Very inexpensive. Focus by wire for manual focus is a bit weird at times but the autofocus works well too. And it's 1:1.
it is now on its way to me.inexpensive,got on ebay.its a keeper allrounder on my 50R i think.
rdeloe wrote:
Steve, a friendly amendment on this point... According to Cambo, the widest technical camera lens you're able to use on an Actus with a Fuji GFX camera is the APO Sironar Digital 55/4.5, and that's with "restricted movements". That lens is just a re-branded APO Grandagon 55/4.5, which I've tried on GFX 50R; any amount of movement produces ugly lens cast, which needs a lens cast correction frame. A GFX camera with a BSI sensor should mitigate that somewhat. The "restricted movements" are because the big rear lens group is just about inside the housing of the GFX camera at infinity.
The HR Digaron-SW 90/5.6 is the first technical camera lens for Actus and GFX with no movement restrictions (according to Cambo's data sheet). All of the wide Rodenstock lenses you might be thinking of are out because their flange distance is too short.
So from that perspective, the field is wide open for Fuji to offer lenses with tilt-shift capabilities from normal focal length and wider to people who want native glass....Show more →
Ideally then, they would make a 20mm, the 30mm, and a 50mm. I could definitely see them doing something like that.