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Archive 2017 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development

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p.9 #1 · p.9 #1 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development

Juha Kannisto wrote:
Yeah, all the shots so far were from CP+ where Cosina had some samples for trials, but that ended on 2/26.

Yes, but wouldn't there have been lots and lots of people trying them on their own cameras, and then put up samples on the internet? That's what usually happens, but this time there seem to have been like ~3 people and non of them shot anything that really could tell much about the lenses.

Mar 14, 2017 at 12:37 PM

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p.9 #2 · p.9 #2 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development

I'm most intrigued by the 40/1.4 but not only for it's wide open performance but stopped down for landscapes.

Mar 14, 2017 at 12:57 PM

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p.9 #3 · p.9 #3 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development

rji2goleez wrote:
I'm most intrigued by the 40/1.4 but not only for it's wide open performance but stopped down for landscapes.

+1

Needs to be decent wide open, but excellent by f/2.8 or so and it would be a keeper for me.

Mar 14, 2017 at 05:22 PM

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p.9 #4 · p.9 #4 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development

Makten wrote:
Yes, but wouldn't there have been lots and lots of people trying them on their own cameras, and then put up samples on the internet? That's what usually happens, but this time there seem to have been like ~3 people and non of them shot anything that really could tell much about the lenses.

The lenses were only available for testing at Cosina Voigtländer area's counter at CP+ and couldn't be taken away more than a few meters, and there wasn't much to shoot there, so that's why nobody could really take very representative samples. And I think since the show was in Yokohama Japan, most general visitors were Japanese and would only post something in Japanese media and social media sites right at the time of CP+, not so much in international Camera forums...

If you Google search for reports in Japanese e.g. by using Voigtländer name written in Japanese with some CP+ related keywords, you could see more hits from Japanese media / social media:
フォクトレンダー　CP+　2017
https://www.google.co.jp/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=%E3%83%95%E3%82%A9%E3%82%AF%E3%83%88%E3%83%AC%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%83%BC+CP%2B+2017&*

Mar 15, 2017 at 12:25 AM

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p.9 #5 · p.9 #5 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development

Any news?

May 01, 2017 at 08:48 PM

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p.9 #6 · p.9 #6 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development

Steve Huff posted some thoughts on a pre-production 65mm today, optics should be final according to him but the cosmetics are still subject to change so no photos of the lens.

Not surprisingly, it looks sharp and CA is really well controlled (non-existent?). A lens I would really like to try.

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2017/05/01/a-first-look-at-the-voigtlander-65mm-f2-macro-prototype-for-sony-e-mount/

May 01, 2017 at 09:00 PM

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p.9 #7 · p.9 #7 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development

I guess that 65mm is probably coming out first. I keep an eye on Cosina's Japanese website but there have been no release dates or other announcements yet on these new lenses after CP+. Since they said in an interview that they are trying to release 65mm and 40mm within 2017, I guess it might still take some months, but Steve Huff's field test indicates that 65mm might not be very far off... I might be getting both of them but need to fund an A9 first.

May 02, 2017 at 01:19 AM

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p.9 #8 · p.9 #8 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development

That 35/1.4 doesn't seem to have as the same ergonomics as the 35/1.4 M VC. They don't seem as nice.

I think it's a great option to have the other lenses, but I'm too well adjusted to 35mm to consider 40mm anymore. Maybe 7 years ago, I would have gone for it.

May 02, 2017 at 04:31 AM

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p.9 #9 · p.9 #9 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development

ricardovaste wrote:
That 35/1.4 doesn't seem to have as the same ergonomics as the 35/1.4 M VC. They don't seem as nice.

Definitely a matter of taste. The new E mount 40/1.2 and 35/1.4 lenses both have superior ergonomics compared to the VM 35/1.4 or VM 40/1.4, at least for me. I'll always take a focus ring where my fingers can get comfortable over a focus tab. It's kind of necessary given the size of the VM 35/1.4 and VM 40/1.4, but I found the 40/1.4 to be a pain to use compared to something with a real focus ring, like a Canon 50/1.4 LTM which has almost perfect ergonomics for me.

That said, I wouldn't mind of the aperture rings of these new E mount lenses had wings. It wouldn't be pretty but it'd improve the ergonomics. The aperture ring seems a bit too flush with the focus ring, might be hard to find by touch without wings or at least some space between the focus ring and the aperture ring.

May 02, 2017 at 10:54 AM

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p.9 #10 · p.9 #10 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development

arduluth wrote:
Definitely a matter of taste. The new E mount 40/1.2 and 35/1.4 lenses both have superior ergonomics compared to the VM 35/1.4 or VM 40/1.4, at least for me. I'll always take a focus ring where my fingers can get comfortable over a focus tab. It's kind of necessary given the size of the VM 35/1.4 and VM 40/1.4, but I found the 40/1.4 to be a pain to use compared to something with a real focus ring, like a Canon 50/1.4 LTM which has almost perfect ergonomics for me.

That said, I wouldn't mind of the aperture rings of...Show more →

Ah yes, that is true on the focusing ring. It didn't actually occur to me, I was mostly just looking at how similar the aperture ring was (and small), and how it would be easy to get them mixed up when keeping your eye on the finder.

Saying that, I can see why a larger focusing ring would be useful for a non RF camera too. I actually prefer a nub for RF lens in this range, but it's not for everyone. I imagine the throw would be much greater on this newer lens too, which would make a nub ridiculous.

May 03, 2017 at 06:17 AM

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p.9 #11 · p.9 #11 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development

What will the e-mount Voigtlander NOKTON 40mm f/1.2 go for $$$ ?

May 03, 2017 at 08:41 PM

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p.9 #12 · p.9 #12 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development

In this Japanese DC Watch CP+ event report they interviewed some Cosina people about the new lenses and there was a price estimate of "below 150 000 JPY" for the 40/1.2 as well as 65/2. I quess that would be the MRSP. The MRSP of 10/5.6 for E-mount is 155 000 JPY, so I guess they would be priced close to that one. Street price for the 10mm was around 133k yen (including tax) when it was released.

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/eventreport/1046053.html

May 03, 2017 at 10:56 PM

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p.9 #13 · p.9 #13 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development

When is the Nokton 40mm F1.2 Aspherical anticipated release ?

Jun 18, 2017 at 09:04 PM

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p.9 #14 · p.9 #14 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development

Interested in this one too! Haven't seen any reviews either.

PrecisionPhoto wrote:
When is the Nokton 40mm F1.2 Aspherical anticipated release ?

Jun 18, 2017 at 11:39 PM

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p.9 #15 · p.9 #15 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development

Yes, these lenses are nowhere to be found . . . particularly interested in the 40/1.2.

Jun 18, 2017 at 11:55 PM

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p.9 #16 · p.9 #16 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development

40/1.2 and 65/2 are expected to come out sometime in 2017 but no release dates or price have been announced yet. It's typical for Cosina to announce new lenses that are under development long before they actually get formal release dates. The only indication (that I know of) about the release timing and pricing comes from the DC Watch article linked above...

I'm also still keen on getting the 40/1.2 as soon as it's available. I'm keeping my eye on Cosina's JP website for announcements on these but so far there haven't been any. Usually they announce the release dates and prices about 1 month in advance to release.

http://www.cosina.co.jp/

Jun 19, 2017 at 12:20 AM

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p.9 #17 · p.9 #17 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development

I too have the moderately priced 40mm F2.0. I got it in the Nikon mount that adapts well to Canon. So I guess I could adapt it with a Metabones (and the Canon adapter) to an E mount?

The 40 had the best lens IQ of the series. Small and light I favored it for trips. I used to use it in museums. Now I keep it on my D800e for infinity landscape out the window (hard infinity is not however).

Jun 19, 2017 at 08:14 AM

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p.9 #18 · p.9 #18 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development

It always takes forever until they actually update their website. If I remember correctly, one of the e-mount UWA's got its own sub-site on the Cosina website only after it'd been released.

My interest in those lenses is limited, but for their sake and potential buyers' sanity I hope that QC will be better than with the CV 15 for those new lenses.

Jun 19, 2017 at 08:23 AM

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p.9 #19 · p.9 #19 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development

I did see announcements of all their E-mount lenses on their website about 1 month prior to release though the website was structured differently back then... Not too worried about QC issues, though the 15mm v3 has had many reports of such issues. I think it's an unusual case for them. I've bought many of their new M-mount releases as well as the 10mm in E-mount in the last ~4 years and never had any QC issues with their lenses personally. Also got several of their lenses 2nd hand. I've avoided getting the 15mm in E-mount because of all those reports though, I still have a good one in M-mount.

Jun 19, 2017 at 08:42 AM

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p.9 #20 · p.9 #20 · Voigtlander E-mount 35mm 1.4, 40mm 1.2, 65mm f2 in Development

SoundHound wrote:
I too have the moderately priced 40mm F2.0. I got it in the Nikon mount that adapts well to Canon. So I guess I could adapt it with a Metabones (and the Canon adapter) to an E mount?

The 40 had the best lens IQ of the series. Small and light I favored it for trips. I used to use it in museums. Now I keep it on my D800e for infinity landscape out the window (hard infinity is not however).

The CV 40/2 is a keeper. I got mine in Canon EF mount (I don't like the Nikon focusing direction) and use it with a Metabones III adapter.

Jun 19, 2017 at 08:44 AM

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