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I totally agree with the base camp strategy...it's the only way I travel whether by vehicle, train or plane. I typically stay in one place a minimum of 5 days. This gives you time to acclimatize to the area, get to know the sunrise and sunset times and spots and get to mingle with the locals.

Shooting...hopping into the car and driving 6 hours, shooting repeat... Just does not get your vision of the place as you see a very narrow view..,usually just the icons of the area.



Dec 04, 2016 at 01:06 PM
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The desert Southwest is a very dry heat, compared to a high humidity area like coastal China. It does rapidly cool down at night. However, it is hot enough to be dangerous and the sparse population makes it more difficult to get help. My wife & I are now too acclimated to a more northern climate, so we only go to Southwest in the cooler months. Here's a link to a fascinating story about German tourists in the Death Valley area. Not a common occurrence, but it is a riveting tale! It's a long read, but worth the effort:
http://www.otherhand.org/home-page/search-and-rescue/the-hunt-for-the-death-valley-germans/

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Wonderful information Kent. I am very appreciative of the time expenditure and effort you, and some other posters, have gone to to give me extremely valuable gen that will make my planning more accurate and route far more sensible than it may otherwise have been. Cheers, Kevin.



Dec 04, 2016 at 03:23 PM
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chez wrote:
I totally agree with the base camp strategy...it's the only way I travel whether by vehicle, train or plane. I typically stay in one place a minimum of 5 days. This gives you time to acclimatize to the area, get to know the sunrise and sunset times and spots and get to mingle with the locals.

Shooting...hopping into the car and driving 6 hours, shooting repeat... Just does not get your vision of the place as you see a very narrow view..,usually just the icons of the area.

It makes great sense. No wonder I didn't think of it

Do you (or Kent or anyone else) ever hire campers ? Or do you hire cars / drive your own and make daily trips out of your base into the surrounding area ?




Dec 04, 2016 at 03:26 PM
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Do you (or Kent or anyone else) ever hire campers ? Or do you hire cars / drive your own and make daily trips out of your base into the surrounding area ?



There are places in the U.S. that do rent them. Cruise America is a popular one:
http://www.cruiseamerica.com/?utm_source=GeniusMonkey_PPC&utm_medium=Referral&utm_campaign=GM_Google_CruiseAmericaBrand&gclid=CMnzrMa329ACFRtMDQodCdEBpA

http://gorving.com/where-to-find/rentals

Keep in mind that the roads in many parks were made during the 1930s, and were sized for Model A Ford. I've seen a few guys get RVs stuck on turns etc. The roads are narrow and often twisty. A small van based RV (a slightly larger version of the old VW camper) would probably work for this. You don't need a four wheel drive vehicle for most places as off road travel is illegal in parks.

I haven't done this for a few reasons: (1) the campers are big. I don't like driving big vehicles around. Many roads are narrow, and on the Great Plains the wind can blow them over. (2) My wife likes to stay at the nice hotels and fancy restaurants (I enjoy the rustic park lodges myself.) (3) While they save on hotel bills, they do eat a lot of gas. The locations to rent and return seem scattered, and I think it would be inconvenient to drive back to where you started to return one. I haven't checked into it though. When going some place overnight by myself I often will sleep in our minivan. I haven't heard of anyone having problems doing this. Mostly what we do is drive our own minivan (now car since kids have grown) if traveling in our region or adjacent one (speed limits are nearly 140 kph in most Western states on the four land roads.) If traveling over two days away we fly and rent a small car. Last time in Hawaii we ended up renting two cars--one was an SUV so we could drive ourselves to the top of Mona Kea.

Mostly I'm discouraged by the size of the things, and really enjoy the park hotels we stay at. We also sometimes stay at bed & breakfast places. This has an advantage of getting a lot of great information from a local person, and we've met some very nice people doing this.
https://www.kayak.com/horizon/sem/hotels/general?lang=en&gclid=CJq4_Z6829ACFU5MDQodlPMOzg&aid=10222026489&g_kw=bed+and+breakfast

Air BnB seems to have taken off in many places too:
https://www.airbnb.com/?af=43720035&c=A_TC%3Dnnzmbxefxs%26G_MT%3De%26G_CR%3D100808697856%26G_N%3Dg%26G_K%3Dair%20b%20n%20b%26G_P%3D%26G_D%3Dc&expr=r1&gclid=CJzI47-829ACFYhKDQodcFEPgw


Kent in SD





Dec 04, 2016 at 04:27 PM
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Frogfish wrote:
It makes great sense. No wonder I didn't think of it

Do you (or Kent or anyone else) ever hire campers ? Or do you hire cars / drive your own and make daily trips out of your base into the surrounding area ?



I typically rent a car and rent a house that I call home for the week. I'll drive up to 2 hours from the house in any direction to photograph. Once done at a location, I'll drive off to the next location and again have a house to stay in.

The house gives me the option of cooking in rather than eating out for weeks on end.



Dec 04, 2016 at 04:48 PM
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I think you have gotten some great recommendations so far. Southern Utah is wonderful, and Moab would be a great place to set up as a base (or any one of the numerous surrounding camp-grounds). It sounds like a trip that hits Santa Fe, the Grand Canyon, Moab, Yellowstone (Moab to Yellowstone will be quite a drive) would be a great idea. I will make recommendations for going north starting at Salt Lake City (as that area is where I am from) it would make a lot of sense to start in the southern part of the country, and head north via the route I'm outlining here, then heading west to the Washington coast, and heading south from there (or the reverse).

Salt Lake City is a fun place that is worth spending half a day to a day in, but no longer. Check out temple square, as it is the equivalent of the Vatican for the LDS church and has a lot of interesting/beautiful architecture. Downtown has some interesting landmarks like the city library (which is very modern and a cool architectural landmark), Abravanel hall (which has an incredible blown glass art piece that is 30' high and hosts the Utah symphony), the state capital, and Eccles theater (Eccles theater isn't architecturally significant, but if you want to see some entertainment is a good place to catch various types of performances). Also the Utah Jazz (professional basketball) play, and going to the games can be fun and affordable.

From Salt Lake City take I-15 north to Island Park (http://www.westyellowstonenet.com/island_park_idaho/) (http://www.islandparkidaho.com/ACTIVITIES/MESAFALLS.html), which sits adjacent to Yellowstone. This will take about 4.5 hours, and on the way you can stop at Pocatello Idaho and get a Pizza Bomb (calzone) and beer at Goody's. From Island Park you can go to West Yellowstone, and the rest of Yellowstone proper. You can easily spend as much time as you want in this area of the country, there are lots of fun amenities around Island Park and Yellowstone, as well as the amazing landscapes. I feel that Island Park and Mesa Falls are easily missed, but well worth it if you are near Yellowstone.

From West Yellowstone, take highway 191 down to Grand Teton National Park. This is another beautiful place near Yellowstone that many people neglect to visit (https://www.nps.gov/GRTE/planyourvisit/index.htm).

From Teton Village you can head back to to Idaho Falls, and then head north on I-15 to I-90 and drive to Missoula. Missoula is a fun town, and the Bitterroot Valley (which is just a 45 minute drive) has some stunning hiking. I love to go to Stevensville and hike St. Mary's peak, but driving to Glacier rather than taking that hike will probably be more enjoyable (however I do highly recommend going to the Hamilton area and checking out the hiking, especially since I have you passing through this area twice (http://www.waterfallsmontana.com/waterfalls.aspx?id=11) (http://www.alltrails.com/us/montana/hamilton). From Missoula you will go north to the Kalispell/Whitefish/Columbia area, and up to Glacier National Park (https://www.nps.gov/glac/index.htm). The West side of the state is much prettier than the central/east side, which is why I recommend going to Glacier this direction, rather than passing nearer to Great Falls and going through Helena (Helana is beautiful, however). You could easily spend as much time as you wanted in this area, as well.

From there, you will head back to Missoula, then go West on I-90 through Cour d'Alene (which is a great place to spend a day, it is a beautiful area). From there you can drive to the coast of Washington, and take a trip from Puget Sound and down the coast all the way through California, as I think other people have recommended. Once you pass Cour d'Alene I'm unfamiliar with the area. The Idaho panhandle is also beautiful, so if you wanted you could head south to Grangeville, ID. There is a ton of hiking, lots of tiny towns, etc. I love this area of the country, but I think it makes more sense to head to the west coast from here. Hope you enjoy your trip, either the spring or fall should be beautiful, but prepare to be cold in Yellowstone, and especially Glacier, either way. The trip through the West I've outline should have some fantastic landscapes.

EDIT: I read your post on the last page. With the national parks you don't have to do much hiking to see beautiful landscapes, etc. The base camp idea sounds great, and it looks like you pretty well have things planned out. When you go to Yellowstone definitely consider some of the surrounding national parks, and also consider glacier (while noting that it is a bit out of the way of some of the other stuff you are wanting to see...although not horribly far from Washington). Hope you have a great trip. If I were still in Salt Lake and you were traveling through I'd offer you a spare room to stay in, but I have moved to the other side of the country. I can't wait to see the photos that come out of your trip! : )

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Dec 04, 2016 at 05:07 PM
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I would bring some light to medium weight clothing for temperatures at or a bit below freezing for all of these places. Mornings and night will most likely be chilly, especially as September progresses. The region(s) are at a moderate altitude, and the low humidity and generally cloudless skies means the daytime heat is mostly not retained after dark. Daytime should be quite pleasant or even perfect.


Kent in SD



Dec 04, 2016 at 05:45 PM
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Thank you for that excellent post Austin, and Kent for the cold weather tip (no problem here, we both have full cold weather gear, most recently from going to the Ice Sculpture exhibition in Harbin, -15C to -25C). I'll make full use of your route in planning Austin. Thanks again !


Dec 05, 2016 at 05:24 AM
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Frogfish wrote:
Thank you for that excellent post Austin, and Kent for the cold weather tip (no problem here, we both have full cold weather gear, most recently from going to the Ice Sculpture exhibition in Harbin, -15C to -25C).



Won't need anything really bulky. Average daily range for 30 September in Yellowstone is -2C to 12C. For Grand Canyon on 30 September the range is 3.5C to 21C. As you can see, don't need clothing for "deep winter," but you will want to dress in layers to cope with the daily spread. On trips like this I always bring head to to rain gear so I'm not stuck inside in case the sky turns gray and wet. (Less chance of that in the Southwest desert but still can happen.


Kent in SD




Dec 05, 2016 at 06:12 PM
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A great circuit without excessive driving is to start from San Francisco and go north to the redwoods, circle down through the Napa & Sonoma wine country and then continue south to Yosemite and Sequoia and Mineral King.

My favorite winter destinations by far are Yosemite and Yellowstone but too far apart. to combine on a trip. Yellowstone has the bison but Yosemite is a great deal less noisy than Yellowstone which is plagued in the winter time by snowmobile operators.

The Andrew Hudson book on San Francisco and Northern California from Photo Secrets, is a great book and used copies can be purchased on Amazon for as little as $4. For Yosemite area the book by Michael Frye, The Photographer's Guide to Yosemite is exceptional. I have never found photo guide books at the level of these two.

Yellowstone is still undergoing road construction with limited access to areas at times. It also closes down for the most part by mid October. The Yellowstone Hotel is a very good place to stay that puts you in the center of the park. Yellowstone is good to combine with travel in the Jackson Hole area to the south.

Yellowstone animal activity varies with the seasons. Best time to see sows with their cubs is from May on and best time to see elk is from July through September (after which they head to lower elevations for the winter). Moose are much more likely to be seen in the Grand Tetons and Jackson Hole areas though the two recent fires this past summer will most likely affect where they go.



Dec 05, 2016 at 08:25 PM
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California.

Well OK I'll edit and give a little more info, can't just say California. You've got mountains, desert, the biggest trees in the world, great beach, L.A., San Francisco, San Diego, Ramona, Tahoe. And the list goes on.

I also love the Wind River Range, in Wyoming. I preferred it to the more famous areas. Sad to hear there are air pollution problems, at least in nearby Pinedale, due to fossil fuel extraction Froze half to death camping in mid September, it's at 8000 ft. I think we had frost around July 4, and hiking up to 11,000 feet it snowed.

N. NM is great. Taos area





Dec 05, 2016 at 09:54 PM
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Lots of good info already here.

What is "best" for you depends on what you have seen/have available around your home etc.
For many Europeans California/Utah/Arizona deserts are amazing because they never seen a desert before.
For people from Israel, those deserts are not very unique and they prefer Sequoias and Oregon.

I have seen most places in the US and my favorite location is Redwood NP.

Seems like doing Utah/Arizona first and California/Oregon next would be a good option.
Northern Califronia and Oregon forests look very green late in the Fall, so the timing could work well.

Skip the cities. Even San Francisco, used to be very nice, but now it's very dirty,
full of homeless people and is overrun by Chinese. Visit smaller places like Carmel or some places in Oregon.
Although people in small Oregon towns are weird... Not very welcoming.



Dec 06, 2016 at 03:54 AM
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snowboarder wrote:
Skip the cities. Even San Francisco, used to be very nice, but now it's very dirty,
full of homeless people and is overrun by Chinese.


Heaven forbid, not the Chinese!



Dec 06, 2016 at 03:05 PM
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kingmeow wrote:
Heaven forbid, not the Chinese!


And the weird people in small town Oregon...what's this world coming to? Hurry lock the doors and draw the drapes.



Dec 06, 2016 at 03:18 PM
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snowboarder wrote:
... and is overrun by Chinese. ...


If you've read anything about Frogfish, I think you'll quickly discover he's probably not bothered by being "overrun by Chinese."


Kent in SD



Dec 06, 2016 at 05:36 PM
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I would assume, coming from China,
he would be more interested in other cultures
while exploring the US. You think a French in NYC
goes to Maison Kayser?



Dec 06, 2016 at 07:47 PM
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snowboarder wrote:
I would assume, coming from China,
he would be more interested in other cultures
while exploring the US. You think a French in NYC
goes to Maison Kayser?


Don't know about that. Was in Vietnam and noticed many American expats visit the same bars...almost like walking into a bar in Portland.



Dec 06, 2016 at 08:04 PM
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snowboarder wrote:
I would assume, coming from China,
he would be more interested in other cultures
while exploring the US. You think a French in NYC
goes to Maison Kayser?


Ha. Actually I'm originally British but have lived in China for the past 20+ yrs and have been happily married to a wonderful Chinese wife for the past 30 yrs. To be honest I'm not that conversant with American culture per se (other than American expats that I hope are not indicative) ! I have been to Texas and Florida though (many many years ago) and found the 'real' American people to be very friendly and not at all like the image most often portrayed abroad.

Therefore I'd love to get to see native American culture up close, to experience the small towns people, and to see how real life, and real people, are in California, Utah, Colorado and Oregon.



Dec 07, 2016 at 01:10 AM
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I apologize in case this has been mentioned, but if you do find yourself in southern California or Las Vegas, Joshua Tree NP is worth a day or two. It's about 2.5 hours from Los Angeles, 3 hours from Las Vegas.


Dec 07, 2016 at 08:35 AM
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Frogfish wrote:
Therefore I'd love to get to see native American culture up close, to experience the small towns people, and to see how real life, and real people, are in California, Utah, Colorado and Oregon.


You should visit Taos NM and spend a little time in Northern New Mexico.



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