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I wasn't sure where to post this so picked the two forums whose gear I use (Sony & Nikon) and the Alt (inc. Sony) will encompass more shooters. I hope.

I would like advice on which locations are 'must-sees' in your opinion (and why, and which state they are in, and in which season they are best visited). I prefer parks and wilderness, my wife interesting towns and cities. I've been to Florida and Texas before, my wife recently to New York, Chicago and Vegas.

Those places are not really on a road-trip map for us to visit again unless they coincide with a local POI. An example would be Joshua's recent series on White Pocket, which is stunning, Antelope Canyon, Grand Canyon (where ?), some of the sites in Utah etc. etc. or wonderful little (or large) towns that have something special to see/experience. Give me your Top 10 !

I'm planning for 2018 as 2017 is mostly booked for a major trip such as the 4-6 weeks my wife and I hope to spend over there. We will probably fly - drive to shorten time spent on the road. Undecided yet on a camper or motels/B&Bs. We are in our 50's.

Thanks !
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Dec 03, 2016 at 07:53 AM
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What time of year do you want to visit the US and what are you seeking most... wildlife or landscapes? These two things are critical here, as like China, we have a huge country and weather/climate matters varies dramatically across the seasons.


Dec 03, 2016 at 07:58 AM
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OwlsEyes wrote:
What time of year do you want to visit the US and what are you seeking most... wildlife or landscapes? These two things are critical here, as like China, we have a huge country and weather/climate matters varies dramatically across the seasons.


Hi Bruce, timing will depend on where we decide to visit. We are semi-retired and so flexible within reason. If there are compelling reasons to visit in the Spring rather than Autumn (and vice versa) rather than Summer (too hot to be enjoyable perhaps ?) then that's fine. Probably Winter is out as we don't want to end up stranded somewhere (either flights or car).

Whilst I'd love to go tracking down wildlife/birds my wife would not be so accommodating ! So landscapes/towns it is. Unless the wildlife coincides with the landscapes, *cough*



Dec 03, 2016 at 08:04 AM
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Well with interest in both cities and towns and parks and wilderness, I might suggest starting in San Francisco and then going out to Yosemite. San Francisco has many interesting photographic opportunities and Yosemite is so striking and iconic. They aren't that far apart and lovely any time of year. In wintertime the travel to Yosemite can be a little daunting, but you would be rewarded with the park being in a lovely state.


Dec 03, 2016 at 08:29 AM
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Ok... well this helps a lot. Many people will suggest that you visit our country's interior in Spring or Fall... examples include the following route: South Dakota Badlands to Custer State Park to Grand Tetons to Yellowstone. This is a fantastic trip with lots of amazing scenery and wildlife. It will give you a sense of what America (the continent) once was. This route is quite dramatic, and for some, is the US at its best. From here you could head into Utah which feels like one giant national park. Both Bryce Canyon and Zion are amazing fall destinations.

I have seen and photographed all of the above, but these are not my favorite landscape/travel destinations in the US. Were I to be a first time visitor in the US and I wanted to see real beauty over a 4-6 week period, I would fly into San Francisco and make my way up the coast to the Canadian boarder. If you rent an RV, you can begin by driving through Redwood National Park (I spent 10 days photographing this location), make a diversion towards the interior of CA to visit Lasen NP, Yosemite NP, and Sequoia NP, and then continue into Oregon. Oregon has amazing coastal landscapes, waterfalls, mountains and deserts. From Oregon enter WA state and continue traveling the coastal road. Here you can visit Mount Rainier NP, the Palouse Region, and Olympic NP. Like the Redwoods, I spent 14 days in Olympic NP... everything from temperate rainforest and coastal wetlands to montane habitat.

A nice feature of this area of the world is the quaint and quirky towns that you will pass or can visit on the way.
As a guy who grew up in Manhattan, went to secondary school and college in the Los Angeles area and now lives in the North interior (Minnesota), I am still enchanted by the Pacific Northwest. This area is so inviting for me, that it where I hope to retire in the next 5 years or so.

I am sure that you will get a lot of amazing suggestions from this group, as the US really has some great photographic/travel locations.
bruce

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Dec 03, 2016 at 08:31 AM
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Frogfish wrote:
I wasn't sure where to post this so picked the two forums whose gear I use (Sony & Nikon) and the Alt (inc. Sony) will encompass more shooters. I hope.

I would like advice on which locations are 'must-sees' in your opinion (and why, and which state they are in, and in which season they are best visited). I prefer parks and wilderness, my wife interesting towns and cities. I've been to Florida and Texas before, my wife recently to New York, Chicago and Vegas.

Those places are not really on a road-trip map for us to visit again unless they
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Hi Kevin,

There are so many places to visit in the US. Are you looking for spectacular landscape? We have 59 US National Parks with a large number of National Monuments, many State Parks, etc.

The greatest number of National Parks are in Utah which has 5 National Parks and also a large number of National Monuments and State Parks. The 5 Utah National Parks are: Bryce Canyon NP, Zion NP, Arches NP, Canyonlands NP, and Capitol Reef NP. These are all beautiful National Parks. Bryce Canyon NP and Zion NP are on the south west side of Utah and relatively close to the north rim of the Grand Canyon NP. Cedar Breaks National Monument is also near Bryce Canyon NP and Zion NP. Zion NP also has a separate portion not contiguous with the rest of the park in Kolab Canyon. On the east side of Utah you have Arches NP and Canyonlands NP which are near Moab Utah. They have the greatest concentration of Arches in the World. Canyonlands is the larger of the 2 parks with more Arches than Arches NP but it is much larger. Canyonlands NP is broken into 3 sections, the Island in the Sky which is what most people see because it is easy driving. The other 2 sections are the Needles and the Maze which require 4 wheel drive. Not far from Canyonlands NP is Dead Horse Point State Park which shares the Colorado River with the National Park and each park looks in on the other. Fisher Towers are not far from Moab as well. Additionally, Monument Valley is relatively close to Moab and is in Utah and Arizona. Most of Monument Valley is on Navajo Indian land and there is a fee for entry as is the case for the National Parks.

Do not underestimate the size of Utah. It is approximately 8 hours of driving from Bryce Canyon NP and Zion NP to Arches NP and Zion NP and Moab Utah. It is a large state.

If you are going to visit many National Parks on your visit, you may consider getting the National Parks Pass which as I recall is about $80 rather than spending the fees to enter each park.

Other beautiful Parks to consider are Yellowstone NP in Wyoming, Montana, and Utah, Grand Teton NP in Wyoming and only about 28 miles away from the south end of Yellowstone NP. Additionally there is also Glacier National Park in northern Montana near Kalispel.

In California there is Yoesemite NP, Joshua Tree NP, Muir Woods (Redwood trees), Sequoia NP (Redwoods), etc.

In Colorado there is Rocky Mountain NP and other locations to visit.

In Oregon there is Crater Lake NP, many many waterfalls, Columbia River Gorge, etc.

In Washington State there is Mount Rainier NP, Olympic NP, and North Cascades NP.

Anyway, others will make suggestions.

Just don't over do it and have sensory overload.

Rich

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Dec 03, 2016 at 08:31 AM
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First, I'll mention that few people outside the U.S. (or even those who live in the eastern U.S.) realize just how far between things are in the western half. It's easy to set up a trip where all you're going to do is drive 14 hours every day.

That said, I am pretty well traveled and have been to most part of the country at different times of the year. My list would be:

1. Yellowstone National Park. It has everything! One of the most amazing places on earth.
2. Grand Canyon. Yes, a big hole in the ground. One helluva a big hole in the ground!
3. Sequoia National Park and Redwood NP. Seeing these huge ancient trees will give you a whole new
perspective on life. I like to just go and sit under them for a few hours. It's hard to explain until
you experience them yourself.

Those are what I consider "must see." I'll also add:
5. New York City--the world's capitol.
6. Mesa Verde. Mysterious ancient cities. Again, something hard to describe until you experience
them.
7. Duluth Minnesota and area. A regional favorite. Beautiful lake and northern forest area, friendly
people. In the winter you can go snowmobiling.
8. Maine. The coast is rugged and very nice. There is a place you can photo puffins (birds.)
9. Mississippi River. There are cruise boats (paddle wheelers) that are a good way to see this
awesome waterway in the middle of the country.
10. Florida. Lots of things packed in relatively close together. Disneyworld in Orlando, plus my favorite town St. Augustine, Sanibel Island for wildlife (bird mecca in winter,) space museum at Cape Canaveral, lots of great beaches.

I used to visit San Francisco, but now it's become a mecca for bums and drug addicts. Crime (especially theft/robbery) is way up. Chicago was another one of my favorite places but the crime there has been out of control (murder, robbery) and it's now affecting even the downtown area. I never cared for Los Angeles--seemed to mostly be miles and miles of graffiti covered concrete. Nicer big cities are Minneapolis, Dallas, Houston, Boston, Nashville. The most concentrated place I've been to see wildlife is Custer State Park, near Rapid City, South Dakota. The Badlands are nearby and are also loaded with wildlife as well as unique landscapes. A large Indian tribe lives there also. It's genuine cowboy country.

"Probably Winter is out as we don't want to end up stranded somewhere (either flights or car)."
I will add that rarely happens, even where I live on the Northern Plains. Snow clearing is very efficient and a state government priority. There's usually a two day advance warning it's coming too.


Kent in SD



Dec 03, 2016 at 08:39 AM
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Two23 wrote:
First, I'll mention that few people outside the U.S. (or even those who live in the eastern U.S.) realize just how far between things are in the western half. It's easy to set up a trip where all you're going to do is drive 14 hours every day.

That said, I am pretty well traveled and have been to most part of the country at different times of the year. My list would be:

1. Yellowstone National Park. It has everything! One of the most amazing places on earth.
2. Grand Canyon. Yes, a big hole in the ground. One helluva a big
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Factually Kent, crime is down in San Francisco and throughout most of the country. Yes, there are drug addicts, but there have always been drug addicts and these numbers haven't increased either. San Francisco is still a lovely place for photography as is Chicago. Crime has risen in Chicago compared to 3 years ago, but not compared to 10 or 15 years ago and much lower than when I frequented Chicago 30 years ago. (See this link if you care about the facts: http://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/dueling-claims-on-crime-trend/). There are many many lovely places to visit in the US including the upper Mid-West where you live and I have been there many times as well. I just think if we are talking about things like crime we should based decision based on facts rather than on anecdotal or media impression which are often misleading.



Dec 03, 2016 at 09:21 AM
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Taos NM, Santa Fe NM, Durango Co, Silverton Co, Ouray Co, Florida Keys (Key West.

Crime in Chicago is really bad in certain areas but not bad in places that you would be likely to visit unless you want to go to Austin/West Garfield Park or some of the southern neighborhoods like Englewood.



Dec 03, 2016 at 09:37 AM
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1. Yosemite, Big Sur, San Francisco. If you have time add Sequoia.

2. Arches/Canyonlands

3. Santa Fe, White Sands, Carlsbad Caverns, Bisti Badlands, Tent Rocks

4. Grand Canyon, Antelope Canyon, The Wave, Horseshoe Bend, Monument Valley. If you have time add Bryce and Zion.

If I had to recommend one place in the US to visit to a foreign visitor it would be Yosemite. I haven't been to Yellowstone yet so can't recommend it yet although I heard it's amazing. The scenery in Yosemite is just incredible and so grandiose. I would recommend visiting Yosemite in late May/June when the falls are in full flow.

Arches/Canyonlands if you like hiking, landscape photography, and astrophotography. But no city life nearby.

If you want unique city there is no better place than Santa Fe, one of my favorite cities along with SF. Landscapes in NM is also very unique and interesting as well. My girlfriend and I really enjoyed White Sands National Monument.

#4 doesn't really need an introduction.








Dec 03, 2016 at 10:14 AM
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I actually like Taos a little better than Santa Fe but love Santa Fe and a drive up the high road from Santa Fe to Taos with some stops at some old missions like El Santuario de Chimayo a bit east of the high road (have lunch at the famous restaurant Rancho de Chimayo) and just south of Taos, San Francisco de Asis Mission is a longer drive up the high road but is well worth the time in my option.

If you are a true photography lover an hour or two at the Andrew Smith gallery in Santa Fe is time well spent. Also if you are in Carmel California (PCH) not far from Big Sur some time at the Weston Gallery is also a must for any real lover of photography.



Dec 03, 2016 at 10:36 AM
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Like people mentioned above, The Southwest Utah, AZ, New Mexico and Colorado. The landscape is quite out of this world. Then head west to California and drive up highway 1 along the coast from SD, stop by Yosemite, north to Oregon and Washington. You'll will hit all the major national parks, best of the West.


Dec 03, 2016 at 11:02 AM
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Why is this thread not even in the Trip Location Advice & Meetups forum?
I thought that's where it was cross posted, but then after searching, I see it's cross posted to some other camera board.

There has been so much information posted in the Trip Location forum over the years, and answers there are helpful to others who search - both now and into the future.

Thank you.

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Dec 03, 2016 at 11:22 AM
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wow, that is a very wide net you are casting. I've been doing work for the USNPS for 9 or so years now from coast to coast. there is just so much from the tiny to the grand. lots of varied history. I would need a bit more of a categorization of real priorities as there is so much offered.


Dec 03, 2016 at 11:23 AM
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Alaska.


Dec 03, 2016 at 11:44 AM
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I live in the American Southwest and have travelled fairly extensively in the western U.S. My personal opinion is that the Utah national parks are really hard to beat for stunning natural beauty. My favorite is Canyonlands, which is right next to Arches NP. One of the nice things about Canyonlands is that it is relatively uncrowded, at least compared to Arches, Zion and the Grand Canyon. But as long as you're in the area, it would be hard to pass up the Grand Canyon. The best time to visit is in September and October.

Another spectacular national park that most people overlook is Death Valley in the southern California desert. The best time to visit is in the Spring when there is a chance of seeing wild flowers in bloom, which will depend upon how much rain fell in the preceding fall and winter. But even without wildflowers, the colors, rock formations and sand dunes are amazing. Be forewarned, Death Valley is the hottest place on earth during the summer.

Rob



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Steve Spencer wrote:
Factually Kent, crime is down in San Francisco and throughout most of the country. . Crime has risen in Chicago compared to 3 years ago, but not compared to 10 or 15 years ago .



Crime is up in both places, and it is affecting the quality of life. Last time I was in SF (two years ago,) several times I saw people actually pooping on the sidewalk and was constantly beset by aggressive beggars. A link to crime statistics from 2015:
http://kron4.com/2016/03/16/san-francisco-police-release-2015-year-end-crime-statistics/
"But theft from vehicles saw the biggest increase from 2014. Those crimes were up 30.62 percent in 2015, the report indicated."
http://sfist.com/2016/04/25/sf_now_has_highest_per_capita_prope.php
"San Francisco now has the highest increase of property crimes in the U.S."

As for Chicago, I've been going there once or twice a year for about the past 25 years. The past two years it has been noticeably more dangerous. I was last there in mid March 2016 with my wife. We were constantly (every 15 minutes) accosted by very aggressive bums/panhandlers. These weren't the mentally ill people who sit on the sidewalk and rattle cups--they don't bother anyone. These were people who would try to block our path, and one grabbed my wife's arm. I punched him in the face and he went away. A more serious incident happened the next night. We were on a crowded red line train when a guy came up from behind and grabbed my camera. I held on tight and he dragged me holding camera off the train as it began to move. My wife began hitting him and he tried to shove me under the moving train. ASSHOLE! I hung onto his leg so he couldn't kick me. He finally worked his way loose and ran off with $2,400 worth of camera & lens. In my city if anyone had done that, everyone nearby would have piled on him and kicked his ass. Or shot him. Not Chicago! Police took the report, told me this happens all the time and there was nothing they could do about it. I'll be staying away from Chicago until Rahm is no longer in charge.

Some of these cities are very dangerous. Things can turn very violent in mere seconds. I've not seen anything like this in the European or Canadian cities I've visited. Sure, there are pickpockets in Italy and Spain, but they don't try to kill you. I would bet crime in China and Japan is even lower than Canada and Europe. I think it's irresponsible to give foreign visitors a false sense of assurance rather than giving an accurate idea of what they might get in to.


Kent in SD




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I am very partial towards San Francisco and Yosemite NP but I might quickly add that you should avoid going in the Summer as it's uncomfortably and unpleasantly crowded. Yosemite is best in the Spring and Fall (my favorite time) and Winter is quite amazing as well. And Mariposa Grove (near the South end of Yosemite) with its giant ancient trees is not to be missed. It's closed now but should be open by 2018.

And your wife will certainly enjoy these destinations too.

Steve Spencer wrote:
Well with interest in both cities and towns and parks and wilderness, I might suggest starting in San Francisco and then going out to Yosemite. San Francisco has many interesting photographic opportunities and Yosemite is so striking and iconic. They aren't that far apart and lovely any time of year. In wintertime the travel to Yosemite can be a little daunting, but you would be rewarded with the park being in a lovely state.



Dec 03, 2016 at 12:04 PM
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It is not cross-posted in any other boards....

Anyway, Kevin, as folks already mentioned, this country is huge and the number of National Parks is staggering. It depends a lot on how much time do you want to invest and what you want to see/photograph. I am somewhat familiar with a few of the NPs in CA, AZ and UT. Please note that some interesting locations are not located in any of the NPs. Antelope Canyons, White Pocket, the Waves, Monument Valley, etc. are not. Some are on Indian land and some are difficult to access.

I can relate to the situation with our better halves . Like yours, her idea of visiting a foreign country means the comfort of a town/city. Mine prefers sleeping in a little, have a leisurely breakfast, rather than waking up early in the morning to catch the sunrise or staying late for sunset, etc. Sometimes based on the remote location, the lodging is less comfortable or even worse, in a tent with minimal facilities. You need to consider those aspects If your wife comes along with you, especially if she is not a photographer.

There are spots that are fairly easily accessible and you get a high dose of great photo opportunities. I would rank the Antelope Canyon on the top of the list in that respect. You take a photo tour for the upper in the morning and the lower in the evening and you will get tons of great images. Again, take photo tours operated by Native Americans. The Lower Antelope Canyon is better than the Upper but since this is your first time, you may want to do both. If you get to Page, the name of the town, in the afternoon, I would recommend going to the Horse Shoe Bend for sunset. Do both canyons the following day and you are done!

The Waves are great to photograph but there are disadvantages. You have to hike some 8 miles round trip and 2 miles in the sand. Plus, you have to get a permit and you can apply on-line and they (the Bureau of Land Management - BLM) runs a lottery to pick winners to go to the Waves. No overnight stay is allowed here. That's why the images from this location were taken during the day. I have not been to the Waves, BTW.

White Pocket, South Coyote Buttes and Monument Valley (Hunts Mesa: overlooking the Valley from a higher point) are kind of similar to each other. No need for a permit here but you pay more, significantly more but less hiking, faster access, etc. You hire an outfit, either private or Native American and you pay for them to drive you to those places. Yes, you can go on day tours but you will see more and the lighting would be better if you can stay overnight, at least, one night at each for the best lighting and also for some astro photography. You have to do the sunset and sunrise valley tour in the addition to the overnight tour to Hunts Mesa. A small group of friend photographers would be your best bet here. You hire the outfits privately and dictate the circumstances better than in a group with others that may not have the same interest. Just FYI.

Mesa Arch (sunrise), Delicate Arch (sunset) are awesome spots but the dose of photography opps is on the low side for my taste. You get less bang for your time and effort. This is my personal opinion. You hike to those spots yourself. Since this is your first time, you may want to familiarize yourself with the hike to Mesa Arch since you will be doing it in the dark and be there 30 or longer minutes before sunrise. You will be surprised that there are 20 photographers there before you juggling for the best sunrise position . Yes, you will be shooting shoulder to shoulder there. Delicate Arch is not an issue as you started hiking up there while there is plenty of light.

Grand Canyon (both the South and North Rims), Yosemite, Yellowstone, Bryce, Zion, Grand Teton etc. are NPs and you need to spend 2-3 days at each to get the most out of the individual scenic spots. Death Valley is also worth visiting, IMHO.

Kevin, this is my personal experience and some may experience things a little bit differently. BTW, if somehow possible, avoid the summer months for various reasons but heat in the SW and the number of visitors, in general are turnoffs for me, at least. Late Winter, like March or early Spring would be your best bet, I would say.

Joshua



Dec 03, 2016 at 12:43 PM
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Huge country, roughly the 2.5x the area of Europe. But that's counting Alaska, so let's just say nearly 2x Europe. With that in mind, 4-6 weeks is a good amount of time to travel. I'd suggest September to mid-October.

1. Start in Yellowstone. If you get there right after US Labor day the weather is perfect - 70's during the day, cool but nor cold nights. And most tourists have left. Yellowstone has things that no other place in the world has. Essential place.

2. Fly east and make your wife happy and get to NYC, perhaps Boston and/or Chicago. If you go to Boston, perhaps a trip up the coast to Acadia National Park and all the ocean villages will make both of you happy. Gettysburg is worth a stop, as is DC. Total time should be 2-3 weeks.

3. End the trip by doing a week or two in the SW. First week of October is usually peak color in SW Colorado. Hit Telluride, Ridgway, Ouray and Silverton. Take the Durango-Silverton railroad. Go to Mesa Verde, then perhaps Santa Fe/Taos. Then hit the Grand Canyon. Finish it all off with California - Yosemite, the San Francisco and, perhaps, wine country.

Don't over fill the schedule. NYC could be a day or two at a run to see the 5 most important things, or two weeks to really see it. What type of trip are you after?

Me, I'd do Yellowstone for 3-4 days. Then Chicago for 2-3. NYC for 4, and Boston for 2. Then up to Acadia for 4-5 (driving to see the rural areas up close). Next, DC for 2-3 days. Then back to the west and Telluride, Ridgway, Silverton, Durango for 2-3 days. Mesa Verde for a day. Santa Fe/Taos for 2. Then Yosemite for 2-3, Wine country for 2-3 and SF for 2-3. That's about 5-6 weeks and is likely too much.

Peace,

Todd




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