I feel a bit guilty for suggesting the Hoya solution. It seems that, after all, it won't be an easier setup than a Proxar.
Anyway, vigneting aside, have you guys checked the corner improvement of the Hoya compared to the Proxar ?. First informal tests led to think that both were in the same ballpark.
MIRANDA1 wrote:
I'm taking a different approach, since I already have the +4 sacrificial Hoya close up lens, I ground the front of the housing (approx: 1mm) using a belt sander and polished it up with a fine emery.Looks pretty good, I'm slowly going into "Choppy Land"
If they are the same I'm going with the Hoya better setup but I have a feeling the Hoya is optically slightly better. I'm going to do a this vs that test.
I was going to test this morning but my ZM 85 is coming today so want to check it also
Everybody talks about its character, the unique bokeh but no comments about the corners. It would be interesting to see what PCX/Proxar can do with this extreme lens.
GMPhotography wrote:
I'll get the hood Monday. I got my final setup for the ZM 35 . Thin 49,49-55, thin 55-52, 52mm Retaining ring. I set infinity one Gold shim removed the rest. Using the Hawks ad
Guy, are you able to attach a front lens cap on this setup for the ZM 35?
Rob it maybe tight, I can put a 55mm filter on , maybe one turn but a lens cap maybe too little thread left. A very thin retaining ring here would help the cause.
GMPhotography wrote:
Rob it maybe tight, I can put a 55mm filter on , maybe one turn but a lens cap maybe too little thread left. A very thin retaining ring here would help the cause.
How about a 55-52 step-down ring that is not so thin? There might be more thread for a lens cap attachment. Would it cause vignetting?
Not that I am surprised after reviewing 45 pages on this thread, but now having done my own little test with HaruhikoT's suggested inverted 1500mm PCX + step up/down rings + version III Techart auto focus adapter for Contax G lens to Sony E on the A7rII, with the Contax G Biogon 28/2.8, I 'd say the differences are dramatic.
Note* Minor adjustments applied in LR to bring up exposure and adjust some clipped blacks. I also applied the Adobe Zeiss Bigon T*2,8/28 lens profile in LR. No additional sharpening or cropping. Hand held with admitted fidgeting with the adapter's AF system ( sometimes it works, some times it doesnt with this particular lens) My setup here: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1453834/43 ( last image/post of page 43)
#1 image with inverted 1500mm PCX + rings
#2 image without
HaruhikoT, once again thank you. If I may, how did you think to come up with this?
GMPhotography wrote:
Okay back to the 25mm I took the +4 filter ring and filed it down quite a lot. Tools Dremel, Orbital sander than Dremel with wire brush.
OK, finally completed the Hoya +1 closeup filter grinding. The photos should give you an idea of how much I removed if you already have the Hoya set. The edge of the filter now sits just slightly below the level of the inner ring of the Zeiss hood. I had a heck of a time removing the retaining ring from the filter housing, it was very tight on the +1 and I didn't want to risk chipping the lens so I basically Dremeled it out of the housing. I'll have to go out tomorrow and test it out, it's late in the day and the weather is really crummy today.
baltmin wrote:
Has anybody tested the voigtlander 35mm 1.2 II?
Everybody talks about its character, the unique bokeh but no comments about the corners. It would be interesting to see what PCX/Proxar can do with this extreme lens.
I use the Voight 35 1.2 ver II on the A7rII with TAP and don't seem to notice problematic corners. Since you mentioned it, I'll take another look and scrutinze extreme corners more cloesly. Do you have any examples you can post ?
LBJ2 wrote:
Not that I am surprised after reviewing 45 pages on this thread, but now having done my own little test with HaruhikoT's suggested inverted 1500mm PCX + step up/down rings + version III Techart auto focus adapter for Contax G lens to Sony E on the A7rII, with the Contax G Biogon 28/2.8, I 'd say the differences are dramatic.
Note* Minor adjustments applied in LR to bring up exposure and adjust some clipped blacks. I also applied the Adobe Zeiss Bigon T*2,8/28 lens profile in LR. No additional sharpening or cropping. Hand held with admitted fidgeting with the adapter's AF system ( sometimes it works, some times it doesnt with this particular lens) My setup here: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1453834/43 ( last image/post of page 43)
#1 image with inverted 1500mm PCX + rings
#2 image without
HaruhikoT, once again thank you. If I may, how did you think to come up with this?...Show more →
Looks the same as mine, significant improvement. Congrats!
LBJ2 wrote:
I use the Voight 35 1.2 ver II on the A7rII with TAP and don't seem to notice problematic corners. Since you mentioned it, I'll take another look and scrutinze extreme corners more cloesly. Do you have any examples you can post ?
Thank you for your response. I had the impression that all the Leica M-mount lenses wider than 50mm have the same problem with smearing in the borders/corners. I was looking forward to buy this lens but I changed my mind after reading the above. This thread however made me reconsider trying it.
I haven't seen any samples with the A7 series. I don't know if there is any out there available in full size. Obviously you are happy with its corner performance, which is good news. But there is still a question whether it can perform even better based on what we have read in this thread, especially in small apertures.
baltmin wrote:
Thank you for your response. I had the impression that all the Leica M-mount lenses wider than 50mm have the same problem with smearing in the borders/corners. I was looking forward to buy this lens but I changed my mind after reading the above. This thread however made me reconsider trying it.
I haven't seen any samples with the A7 series. I don't know if there is any out there available in full size. Obviously you are happy with its corner performance, which is good news. But there is still a question whether it can perform even better based on what we have read in this thread, especially in small apertures. ...Show more →
Hello: I use this lens mostly at 1.2 and 1.4 on the A7r2 not really paying too much attention to the corners. I don't mind taking some time this coming weekend to scrutinize the corners stopped down to F8 and will let you know.
So ran some tests . Major improvement on the ZM 35 as Fred has posted some results of that and my tests prove the same excellent improvement with the OptimaSigma .5
The ZM 25 with the Proxar 1m and the Hoya 1m also big improvements as well. Im going to go out and test the Hoya vs Proxar just to be sure at infinity the Hoya was better but on Big Bronco The Hoya on the right side was slightly better but the left side for the Hoya was slightly worse at 2.8. Mixed bag but Im leaning more on the infinity shots and I would say the Hoya.
Bottom line either way your going to be fine as in most cases your not wide open anyway but the improvements here are outstanding than just the native lens.
Im really leaning to where the Hoya is better. Just received my hood and I can take it off and on without any inference with the Hoya. I really like that
GMPhotography wrote:
Im really leaning to where the Hoya is better. Just received my hood and I can take it off and on without any inference with the Hoya. I really like that
Handy!
What did you like about the ZM vs the Batis? Or, did you just have the lens already?
