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p.43 #1 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


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Guy, I tested with some filters I had in hand and it now works without vignetting with a few caveats.

All filters must be thin. (2.5mm to 2.8mm). Anything thicker will cause vignetting.

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ZM 35/1.4 > (THIN) Zeiss 49mm UV filter or empty 49mm filter > Zeiss Hood > (THIN) 49-55mm step-up > PCX 5m > (THIN) 55-52mm step-down > 52mm retaining ring.

You may replace the Zeiss 49 UV filter with an empty 49mm filter but it needs to be just as thin. (I tried an empty 49mm I had and it was too thick and caused vignetting even though the
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Fred, if I read this correctly, the 49-55 step-up ring and the PCX lens extend beyond the end of the Zeiss hood. If so, what function is the hood serving?

Rob



Feb 05, 2017 at 01:23 PM
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p.43 #2 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


robgo2 wrote:
Fred, if I read this correctly, the 49-55 step-up ring and the PCX lens extend beyond the end of the Zeiss hood. If so, what function is the hood serving?

Rob


It's not beyond the hood. See this picture:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1453834/41#13906345



Feb 05, 2017 at 01:57 PM
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p.43 #3 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


One thing is the hood cost a bundle, looks good and protects the lens from us sloppy bang into the wall folks like me.


Feb 05, 2017 at 02:12 PM
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p.43 #4 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


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It's not beyond the hood. See this picture:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1453834/41#13906345


Looks good. Can you attach a lens cap?

Rob



Feb 05, 2017 at 03:58 PM
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p.43 #5 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


Okay I just found the miracle setup. Still waiting on a blank 49mm filter. So start with a blank 49mm put on lens than put on hood. Than I went 49-52 step up than a blank 52mm . Get a deep one put 5m inside that than there is just enough thread for a 52 retaining ring. That's it.

For ZM 35



Feb 06, 2017 at 11:18 AM
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Okay I just found the miracle setup. Still waiting on a blank 49mm filter. So start with a blank 49mm put on lens than put on hood. Than I went 49-52 step up than a blank 52mm . Get a deep one put 5m inside that than there is just enough thread for a 52 retaining ring. That's it.

For ZM 35



Cleaner!

Did you try the Hoya +1 closeup filter, yet?

BTW, see any role for a screw-in hood here?



Feb 06, 2017 at 12:07 PM
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p.43 #7 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


Waiting on Hoyas still get them Wednesday. For the 25 I'm thinking of buying the hood used.


Feb 06, 2017 at 12:42 PM
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p.43 #8 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


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Waiting on Hoyas still get them Wednesday. For the 25 I'm thinking of buying the hood used.


I ordered it as well, if it works as well as the Proxar then I'll order the hood as well.



Feb 06, 2017 at 12:51 PM
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p.43 #9 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


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Okay I just found the miracle setup. Still waiting on a blank 49mm filter. So start with a blank 49mm put on lens than put on hood. Than I went 49-52 step up than a blank 52mm . Get a deep one put 5m inside that than there is just enough thread for a 52 retaining ring. That's it.

For ZM 35


Guy,
I've tried 'blank 49' + 'hood' + '49-52' + 'blank 52' + 'retaining ring'. It resulted in even worse vignetting than this:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1453834/41#13907350

The approach from the link above with 'thin filters' still allows me to remove the hood and add threaded ND filters or my Lee Seven5 in front of it.

However, if you are ok not adding additional filters, you may be able to get a very deep '49-52 step-up' and have enough space for retaining ring (without adding another 'blank 52'). That will probably work without any vignetting but I could not find a step-up ring deep enough...



Feb 06, 2017 at 01:07 PM
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p.43 #10 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


Damn I'll try the 55 than when it comes. I'll go 49-55 than 55 ring than 55 retaining ring. I'm hoping the retaining ring will catch the lens. If not than I'll have to find some thin rings like you have. Are we Guinea pigs or what.

I'm determined to keep the hood on.



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p.43 #11 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


I just ordered a thin 49 and 55 uv filters. I'm going to get this, that's a given. Lol


Feb 06, 2017 at 01:35 PM
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p.43 #12 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


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Damn I'll try the 55 than when it comes. I'll go 49-55 than 55 ring than 55 retaining ring. I'm hoping the retaining ring will catch the lens. If not than I'll have to find some thin rings like you have. Are we Guinea pigs or what.

I'm determined to keep the hood on.


I don't think the 55mm retaining ring will work because the OptoSigma lens is 50mm but since you got it, let us know.



Feb 06, 2017 at 01:36 PM
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p.43 #13 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


Yea I will give it a go. Btw anyone looking for the 25mm used

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/used/361544/Zeiss_1365_653_25mm_f_2_8_ZM_Lens.html


Off topic but I'm still looking for a 85 ZM used if anyone happens to see a black one



Feb 06, 2017 at 01:38 PM
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p.43 #14 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


I'm going to open up a step up , step down and blank filter store here pretty soon. I'm on my third storage container. Lol


Feb 06, 2017 at 01:45 PM
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p.43 #15 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


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Yea I will give it a go. Btw anyone looking for the 25mm used

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/used/361544/Zeiss_1365_653_25mm_f_2_8_ZM_Lens.html

Off topic but I'm still looking for a 85 ZM used if anyone happens to see a black one


I picked up a used copy of the ZM 25 from B&H, which was rated 9+, honestly I was amazed at what shape it was in when I recieved it, basically brand new with no sign of usage at all, pretty happy with it.



Feb 06, 2017 at 03:15 PM
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p.43 #16 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


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I'm going to open up a step up , step down and blank filter store here pretty soon. I'm on my third storage container. Lol


Guy, where do you get blank filters?

Rob



Feb 06, 2017 at 08:00 PM
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p.43 #17 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


Amazon just get cheap UV filters . About 9 dollars max. Either I break the glass out or use a spanner wrench.


Feb 06, 2017 at 08:12 PM
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p.43 #18 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


Fred Miranda wrote:
I don't think the 55mm retaining ring will work because the OptoSigma lens is 50mm but since you got it, let us know.


55mm UV filter works for me. I have 46mm to 55mm step up ring, 1M Proxar, blank 55mm filter with its retaining ring. The filter is a cheappo "Green.L UV 55mm". Diameter of Proxar is 50mm same as the OptoSigma.



Feb 07, 2017 at 09:45 PM
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p.43 #19 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


I got one today a 55 have not tried it yet. I ordered some thin rings. Really like to get this to 52mm as it be easier to take off with hood on. Hopefully late tomorrow I can play. Have a shoot in the morning.

Thanks for trying it.



Feb 07, 2017 at 10:00 PM
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p.43 #20 · Front-End Filter Improves Corner Smearing


Great news. Let me know if it works for you Guy. I will order your same 55mm filter.


Feb 08, 2017 at 01:50 AM
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