IndyFab wrote:
Someone mentioned in this thread that it has a built in hood, can I use a Lee 100 filter holder on it ?
It doesn't have a built-in hood. The hood is fairly large and screws into the filter threads. You can use a Lee 100 filter holder, but not with the hood of course.
The front element is deeply recessed, so often people quip that it's like it has a built in hood. But as Steve notes, there is a hood....which I've never used.....somewhere in my house.
-Tim
Steve Spencer wrote:
It doesn't have a built-in hood. The hood is fairly large and screws into the filter threads. You can use a Lee 100 filter holder, but not with the hood of course.
Steve Spencer wrote:
It doesn't have a built-in hood. The hood is fairly large and screws into the filter threads. You can use a Lee 100 filter holder, but not with the hood of course.
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tsdevine wrote:
The front element is deeply recessed, so often people quip that it's like it has a built in hood. But as Steve notes, there is a hood....which I've never used.....somewhere in my house.
Seeing as the macros are the two sole Sony-only lenses made by cosina, the company appeared to believe in the prevailing ideology of a few years back, of 'high weight = good idea', for non-Leica users. They had just finished making the Milvuses.
Interesting that, at 10/8 elements/groups, the 65/2 has the same configuration as the 50/2 APO, but the 1:2 costs you plenty: 625g -vs- 365g! They share the same front end of the design.
Imagine if cosina decided to revise this one (or make it a 75/2) as a regular MFD lens and produced it with a little more weight than the 50/2 APO, with filters same as the VM 75/1.5 (58mm). Leica's M 75/2 APO weighs in at just 430 grams. Sigma got their 65/2 down to a pleasurable 405 grams.
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philip_pj wrote:
Seeing as the macros are the two sole Sony-only lenses made by cosina, the company appeared to believe in the prevailing ideology of a few years back, of 'high weight = good idea', for non-Leica users. They had just finished making the Milvuses.
Interesting that, at 10/8 elements/groups, the 65/2 has the same configuration as the 50/2 APO, but the 1:2 costs you plenty: 625g -vs- 365g! They share the same front end of the design.
Imagine if cosina decided to revise this one (or make it a 75/2) as a regular MFD lens and produced it with a little more weight than the 50/2 APO, with filters same as the VM 75/1.5 (58mm). Leica's M 75/2 APO weighs in at just 430 grams. Sigma got their 65/2 down to a pleasurable 405 grams....Show more →
I agree with almost you say here and expect that it will happen in time, but I think Voigtlander should make this 75 with a 49mm filter thread like the Leica, however. It would be good if their 35, 50, and 75 f/2 APO lenses all had the same filter thread. I would expect a lens a little longer and fatter than the Leica that weighs about the same without the hood that the Leica does with the built-in hood. It would be a great addition to the Voigtlander VM lineup.
naturephoto1 wrote:
Just be aware, the lens is fairly heavy at 625g.
Rich
Thanks Rich, unfortunately I know, if only it was without the macro capabilities, it certainly would be liter and much more appealing. Oh well, till CV comes out with a 75apo (wishful thinking)
philip_pj wrote:
Seeing as the macros are the two sole Sony-only lenses made by cosina, the company appeared to believe in the prevailing ideology of a few years back, of 'high weight = good idea', for non-Leica users. They had just finished making the Milvuses.
Interesting that, at 10/8 elements/groups, the 65/2 has the same configuration as the 50/2 APO, but the 1:2 costs you plenty: 625g -vs- 365g! They share the same front end of the design.
Imagine if cosina decided to revise this one (or make it a 75/2) as a regular MFD lens and produced it with a little more weight than the 50/2 APO, with filters same as the VM 75/1.5 (58mm). Leica's M 75/2 APO weighs in at just 430 grams. Sigma got their 65/2 down to a pleasurable 405 grams....Show more →
Yep, something in a 65-75 Apo with less weight would be most appealing
Steve Spencer wrote:
I agree with almost you say here and expect that it will happen in time, but I think Voigtlander should make this 75 with a 49mm filter thread like the Leica, however. It would be good if their 35, 50, and 75 f/2 APO lenses all had the same filter thread. I would expect a lens a little longer and fatter than the Leica that weighs about the same without the hood that the Leica does with the built-in hood. It would be a great addition to the Voigtlander VM lineup.
Yes moving forward, lets hope for smaller & liter.
Hey IndyFab—I picked up a Leica Macro-Elmarit R 60/2.8 when one popped up for an attractive price. Salgado’s use of it as a general purpose lens sold me. It’s under 400g, has 1:2 macro capabilities, and functions really well as an all-around lens with broad capabilities. While I have no idea how the resolution compares to the CV 65/2, it has some advantages in size and use, although it’s not an APO. Recommended.
As the only player in the game at this level, CV should do more in the present predicament. But they lack intensity, follow through and focus, just like CZ before them. They are boutique-oriented specialists who would rather make six m43 'f-below-zero' showpieces than what FF badly needs from them:
What about the future of manual focus lenses across the broad spectrum of the mainstream of photography? Does it even have one?
No industry figure is talking about this. Is is going to be a Leica M preserve, a kind of retro holdout on the fringes? Yes, we can make magnificent MF lenses, but RF photography and expensive cameras are prerequisites for you. So here we are talking 40 year old lenses - again. Yes, I love them too but we need continuity as well for generational transition, or young guys will think they are either old garbage or overpriced natty adjuncts for rich guys.
So I got this lens today.
Very near the MFD & from 2m to infinity there is a barely perceptible amount of focus play/slack. The front barrel also wiggles a little, the wiggling is just at the limit of what I can still perceive. (at the rest of the focusing range there is no such play at all, it's all buttery smoothness)
So how normal is this with the 65APO, would you return the lens if you were in my shoes? Am I being unreasonably nitpicky here?
Sinasina wrote:
So I got this lens today.
Very near the MFD & from 2m to infinity there is a barely perceptible amount of focus play/slack. The front barrel also wiggles a little, the wiggling is just at the limit of what I can still perceive. (at the rest of the focusing range there is no such play at all, it's all buttery smoothness)
So how normal is this with the 65APO, would you return the lens if you were in my shoes? Am I being unreasonably nitpicky here?
This prompted me to check my copy of 65mm APO-Lanthar. I detect absolutely no wiggle of front barrel. I have to hold the front barrel in front of the aperture ring to do the test, otherwise a little turning of the aperture ring and barrel feels like wiggle.
Now the question is - how much does it matter to you?
This should not affect the overall IQ.Ask for at least 20-15% percent discount,for the lens is mechanically faulty (a little bit).And if you are happy with the discount - go for it.
Thanks Rich, unfortunately I know, if only it was without the macro capabilities, it certainly would be liter and much more appealing. Oh well, till CV comes out with a 75apo (wishful thinking)
Agree to all this discussion. I'm happy having one heavy lens with macro (the 65 is basically perfect), but I sure wish they would put a 75 apo out for FE mount with an emphasis on being compact & light & who cares about MFD. How many signatures do you think we could get on a petition to CV??
Cosina looks more and more focused on the leica mount. Don't see a lot of activity for sony users lately. Hope that's not a tend but just a pause.
photonoclast wrote:
Agree to all this discussion. I'm happy having one heavy lens with macro (the 65 is basically perfect), but I sure wish they would put a 75 apo out for FE mount with an emphasis on being compact & light & who cares about MFD. How many signatures do you think we could get on a petition to CV??
Sinasina wrote:
So I got this lens today.
Very near the MFD & from 2m to infinity there is a barely perceptible amount of focus play/slack. The front barrel also wiggles a little, the wiggling is just at the limit of what I can still perceive. (at the rest of the focusing range there is no such play at all, it's all buttery smoothness)
So how normal is this with the 65APO, would you return the lens if you were in my shoes? Am I being unreasonably nitpicky here?
Not the case with my lens either.
Personally, I'd return it and get a quality copy. There's no telling why that's the case or if it might cause some other issue(s) to pop up later in the life of the lens.
liftedspirit wrote:
Not the case with my lens either.
Personally, I'd return it and get a quality copy. There's no telling why that's the case or if it might cause some other issue(s) to pop up later in the life of the lens.
I have returned it.
I'm done, I won't order another lens for a while. I have gotten 4 lemons in a row.
(1 used Voigtländer with balsam separation, 1 new TTartisan with crazy decentering, 1 new loxia 85 with crazy decentering and a loose front barrel and now finally this CV65.) I could have bought a Zeiss Jena 135 instead of paying for all the shipping expenses.
I never thought I would do this but I've sold my three Zeiss Milvus lenses and replaced them with three CV APO's - the 35, 110 and now a 65 (on order).
Zeiss Milvus are remarkably well built but one thing generally mentioned when describing them is their physical weight. Each of CV's in my kit is smaller and weighs less than the Milvus' Trinity. How much less?
