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Official: Voigtlander 65mm f/2 Macro Apo-Lanthar

  
 
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p.23 #1 · Official: Voigtlander 65mm f/2 Macro Apo-Lanthar


I'm really looking forward to this focal length. Nice stuff Fred


Sep 01, 2017 at 12:00 AM
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GMPhotography wrote:
I'm really looking forward to this focal length. Nice stuff Fred


The focus length is new to me and surprisingly I like it very much. It's not as limiting as 85mm and a bit more compressed than 50mm. Being 1:2 macro adds to its versatility.
I usually prefer AF lenses for everything except landscapes but this lens is so sharp wide open and the manual focus feedback so precise, it's easy to nail focus every time.



Sep 01, 2017 at 12:29 AM
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p.23 #3 · Official: Voigtlander 65mm f/2 Macro Apo-Lanthar


I think it has great portrait rendering as well. Took a few amazing shots of my son with it already. Focus throw can be a bit steep at portrait distance but that is not limiting in most scenarios.


Sep 01, 2017 at 12:41 AM
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p.23 #4 · Official: Voigtlander 65mm f/2 Macro Apo-Lanthar


Great to see this lens getting increased interest and many new owners Very nice samples too. I haven't had much time to use mine for the last couple of weeks but hopefully this weekend.


Sep 01, 2017 at 04:12 AM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
The focus length is new to me and surprisingly I like it very much. It's not as limiting as 85mm and a bit more compressed than 50mm. Being 1:2 macro adds to its versatility.
I usually prefer AF lenses for everything except landscapes but this lens is so sharp wide open and the manual focus feedback so precise, it's easy to nail focus every time.


That struck me immediately with the first photo you linked to (of one of your daughters, I presume):

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/ufiles/62/1515962.jpg

Her eyelashes are tack sharp yet her eyebrows are mostly out of focus. And no Eye AF!



Sep 01, 2017 at 05:10 AM
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genji wrote:
That struck me immediately with the first photo you linked to (of one of your daughters, I presume):

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/ufiles/62/1515962.jpg

Her eyelashes are tack sharp yet her eyebrows are mostly out of focus. And no Eye AF!


Yes, it's Gia, my daughter. It was the first image I captured with the 65/2 APO. When I saw it at 1:1, I knew this lens was special. Those eyes were in the mid-field and that was what impressed me.



Sep 01, 2017 at 10:43 AM
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rico wrote:
In another forum far, far away (FM Canon) the big news is the TS-E refresh, including an all-new 135/4. This FL is perfect for tigher headshots and the tilt/rotate movements will bring both eyes in focus from all aspects. Does 1:2 as well. Perhaps one less reason to chase the Apo Lanthar 125.


Is the Lanthar 125/2.5 that great with today's sensors? Does anyone here own it?
The new TS-E 135/4L Macro looks very promising. Canon definitely has some nice tilt and shifts, although IMO their TS-E 17/4L needs a refresh.



Sep 01, 2017 at 10:48 AM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
Is the Lanthar 125/2.5 that great with today's sensors? Does anyone here own it?
The new TS-E 135/4L Macro looks very promising. Canon definitely has some nice tilt and shifts, although IMO their TS-E 17/4L needs a refresh.



I had a Canon version some 8-9 years or so ago. While excellent but I felt that the Canon 100mm f/2.8L Macro gave it a run for its money. I sold that lens shortly after getting the Canon lens. Maybe I didn't know more back then. I would have made a nice profit had I sold that lens now instead of back then .

This new APO 65mm lens macro lens is in E-mount. Definitely more desirable than an adapted lens, requiring an adapter although in the tele focal length range of the 125mm the factor of an adapter's consistency is not that bad.



Sep 01, 2017 at 11:34 AM
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AGeoJO wrote:
I had a Canon version some 8-9 years or so ago. While excellent but I felt that the Canon 100mm f/2.8L Macro gave it a run for its money. I sold that lens shortly after getting the Canon lens. Maybe I didn't know more back then. I would have made a nice profit had I sold that lens now instead of back then .

This new APO 65mm lens macro lens is in E-mount. Definitely more desirable than an adapted lens, requiring an adapter although in the tele focal length range of the 125mm the factor of an adapter's consistency is
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I could be that 10 years ago, the lens did well with our 20MP sensors. It would be interesting to know how it performs today...But the price seems prohibiting...



Sep 01, 2017 at 11:54 AM
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p.23 #10 · Official: Voigtlander 65mm f/2 Macro Apo-Lanthar


Here are some more samples from yesterday's teacher meeting day at my kids' school.




School sign. Nice aberration control and resolution






1:1 crop showing detail from image above






Sunstar sample (10-blade)






1:1 crop showing detail from image above. Notice the very low Lateral CA.






Nice rendering and colors at close-up distance






Very low Longitudinal CA and lots of detail. See crop below






1:1 crop showing detail from image above. Razor sharp!




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p.23 #11 · Official: Voigtlander 65mm f/2 Macro Apo-Lanthar


Here is a portrait from last night in almost complete darkness. It's still easy to MF.
IBIS and still subjects help.







Sep 01, 2017 at 12:26 PM
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I am sold on that lens..... just now waiting for the craze to die down a little before getting that. I have been spending like there is no tomorrow on photography gear lately. Scary! But frankly, I am enjoying photography way more so than let's say short 3-4 years ago. Hmmm, it doesn't have to do with Sony, does it? But it was around the same time when I started getting into the Sony mirrorless system.


Sep 01, 2017 at 12:35 PM
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p.23 #13 · Official: Voigtlander 65mm f/2 Macro Apo-Lanthar


really tempted by this lens, could see it replacing my Leica 100 Apo and Voigtlander 90 SLII


Sep 01, 2017 at 12:35 PM
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AGeoJO wrote:
I am sold on that lens..... just now waiting for the craze to die down a little before getting that. I have been spending like there is no tomorrow on photography gear lately. Scary! But frankly, I am enjoying photography way more so than let's say short 3-4 years ago. Hmmm, it doesn't have to do with Sony, does it? But it was around the same time when I started getting into the Sony mirrorless system.


Wait until you see some infinity distance comparisons with the Loxia 50/2 and Zeiss 85/4 ZM...I was very surprised!
I will try posting it today.



Sep 01, 2017 at 12:42 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
Wait until you see some infinity distance comparisons with the Loxia 50/2 and Zeiss 85/4 ZM...I was very surprised!
I will try posting it today.



I noticed that you are putting both lenses on the B&S board. That tells me something loud and clear, Fred .



Sep 01, 2017 at 12:44 PM
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p.23 #16 · Official: Voigtlander 65mm f/2 Macro Apo-Lanthar


Crap now they will all sell before I can get one.


Sep 01, 2017 at 01:00 PM
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I still can be adopted you know. Lol


AGeoJO wrote:
I am sold on that lens..... just now waiting for the craze to die down a little before getting that. I have been spending like there is no tomorrow on photography gear lately. Scary! But frankly, I am enjoying photography way more so than let's say short 3-4 years ago. Hmmm, it doesn't have to do with Sony, does it? But it was around the same time when I started getting into the Sony mirrorless system.




Sep 01, 2017 at 01:01 PM
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GMPhotography wrote:
I still can be adopted you know. Lol



I'm surprised @rji2goleez didn't get one yet!



Sep 01, 2017 at 01:09 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
Wait until you see some infinity distance comparisons with the Loxia 50/2 and Zeiss 85/4 ZM...I was very surprised!
I will try posting it today.


Yes, I know what we are going to see

My eye opener was my comparison with the FE 1.4/50.. It got smoked really badly by the CV65, the midframe of the 65mm at f2 was much better than the midframe of the Sony at f5.6.. And my Sony 1.4/50 is definitely a good sample of the lens.



Sep 01, 2017 at 01:48 PM
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p.23 #20 · Official: Voigtlander 65mm f/2 Macro Apo-Lanthar


Sounds right to me Jannik. The 50/1.4 ZA's achilles heel is the mid-zone at infinity. There's a noticeable drop from center. Extreme edges are great starting at f/2 though.
I didn't test them directly yet but believe they will be similar at f/2.8, except for the mid-zone.
It's remarkable how well the 65/2 performs at macro AND infinity.

Jannik Peters wrote:
Yes, I know what we are going to see

My eye opener was my comparison with the FE 1.4/50.. It got smoked really badly by the CV65, the midframe of the 65mm at f2 was much better than the midframe of the Sony at f5.6.. And my Sony 1.4/50 is definitely a good sample of the lens.




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