GMPhotography wrote:
Yea I built my kit around a 35 lens. Like you many build it around a 50. Actually that is the best way to think about your gapping is find your lens cap lens which usually is 35 or 50. I'm all about gapping and one reason having the 12-24, 35, 135 the 65 for landscape creates a nice gapping kit. I have the Batis 25 and Sony 85 but they are more towards PR type use.
+1
Great minds think alike.
35mm is the base lens for me (I too dislike the 50mm FOV), everything else is a 2x factor from that as closely as possible.
Currently -
16/3.5 Fish
21/2.8Lox
35/2.8 Sony
85/1.8 Sony
180/4 APO CV
which is a longer prime lens kit that I just took to Europe a few weeks back.
but it could be:
16/3.5 Fish
12/4.5 CV
21/2.8 Lox
35/2.8 Sony
65/2 CV
135/3.4 APO Telyt
for a wider prime lens kit.
Glad you are liking it so far. Having posted so many examples and positive impressions, I would have felt partly responsible for leading you astray if you had not liked it. I am loving it so far--it is so color neutral and versatile with no CA that it is hard to find fault with it. It would indeed be great to see what they can do with a 125mm apo lanthar. Originally, as I understand it, it was not an expensive lens but has risen in price on the secondary market. The 65mm is not an ideal portrait focal length and is not 1:1. The 125 at 1:1, would be better for macro and portrait but probably less versatile.
I had sworn I wasn't going to get this, despite your and Phillip's and Jannicks samples. Figured a 625g 1:2 65mm macro wasn't needed regardless of quality. After all, for actual macro the 90 is as good or better, and stoppedndown the Lox 50 is fine, and how often does one need a 65 at wide apertures??
DavidBM wrote:
I had sworn I wasn't going to get this, despite your and Phillip's and Jannicks samples. Figured a 625g 1:2 65mm macro wasn't needed regardless of quality. After all, for actual macro the 90 is as good or better, and stoppedndown the Lox 50 is fine, and how often does one need a 65 at wide apertures??
But I can see myself weakening...
* The 90 is as good or better for macro
* Stopped-down the Loxia 50 is fine
* One hardly ever needs a 65 at wide apertures
Weakening? It's almost as though the APO Lanthar 65 has a Kryptonite element.
Luvwine wrote:
It would indeed be great to see what they can do with a 125mm apo lanthar. Originally, as I understand it, it was not an expensive lens but has risen in price on the secondary market. The 65mm is not an ideal portrait focal length and is not 1:1. The 125 at 1:1, would be better for macro and portrait but probably less versatile.
In another forum far, far away (FM Canon) the big news is the TS-E refresh, including an all-new 135/4. This FL is perfect for tigher headshots and the tilt/rotate movements will bring both eyes in focus from all aspects. Does 1:2 as well. Perhaps one less reason to chase the Apo Lanthar 125.
rico wrote:
In another forum far, far away (FM Canon) the big news is the TS-E refresh, including an all-new 135/4. This FL is perfect for tigher headshots and the tilt/rotate movements will bring both eyes in focus from all aspects. Does 1:2 as well. Perhaps one less reason to chase the Apo Lanthar 125.
All those new T/S lenses will be interesting to see. They are a bit slow (F4 for the 135 I think), but would be great for product and flower shots as well as landscape, of course. Wish Sony or Zeiss did some for E mount tho obviously we can use them with adapters.
Weaken, weaken. In the face of solid evidence, it can be well-justified. The price point is great value. Contrary view on portrait of 65mm is: the trend to longer, portrait oriented normal lenses is already there (Nikon 58, Zeiss Otus 55, Sony 55), so good move for a 65mm rather than long-established 60mm macro reference point.
Moving down from 85mm, Leica did the 75AA (f2), Pentax the 77mm (f1.8). Street, family/friend users know that you miss far fewer at 55mm than at 85mm from focus error, so a 'slow' 65mm makes perfect sense as a compromise; 55mm users may see it as a slight crop with little more flattering AOV. Little easier to design too. Zeiss better move along or these guys may eat their lunch in the boutique segment. These look clean and crip, Fred, cheers.
That LoCA sample is pretty amazing Fred! It is also really suitable for landscape shots at f2 if depth of field allows to. Great results and great to see you happy with your decision.
