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Archive 2017 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)

  
 
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A bit off topic but... I went to a launch event for this camera yesterday and they rep said the length of exposure can go as long as 60min (in camera, without external bulb timer). Is this true? I also really liked the Fuji Pro tethering software and the automatic focus stacking functionality. Pretty neat - especially for product photography.


Feb 09, 2017 at 10:21 AM
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Gary Clennan wrote:
A bit off topic but... I went to a launch event for this camera yesterday and they rep said the length of exposure can go as long as 60min (in camera, without external bulb timer). Is this true? I also really liked the Fuji Pro tethering software and the automatic focus stacking functionality. Pretty neat - especially for product photography.


I don't have the GFX. But Hasseblad X1D, which shares the same sensor, can also do 60 minutes. So yes, I believe both of these bodies can do 60 minutes. It is awesome indeed



Feb 09, 2017 at 11:21 AM
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Tmuussoni wrote:
I don't have the GFX. But Hasseblad X1D, which shares the same sensor, can also do 60 minutes. So yes, I believe both of these bodies can do 60 minutes. It is awesome indeed


With the X1D and GFX, what are some good options (if any) for UWA lenses. I tend to prefer going wide with many of my landscape images...



Feb 09, 2017 at 11:56 AM
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Gary Clennan wrote:
With the X1D and GFX, what are some good options (if any) for UWA lenses. I tend to prefer going wide with many of my landscape images...


You can use the Hasselblad HCD 24 f/4.8 on either camera (both make an adapter for the Hassy H lenses). Based on samples I have seen and on the MTFs it looks like a fantastic lens. I have the lens but I am waiting to get my GFX and the adapter. The lens isn't that big. Just a bit bigger than my old ZE 21 f/2.8--it does have a 95mm filter, however. Fuji has also announced they will have a 23 f/4 for the GFX by the end of the year, and Hassy has a 30 f/3.5 that is shipping now. I think these will be the primary option for shooting wide, but if someone makes a Canon EF adapter, then the Canon 24 f/3.5L tilt shift lens has the image circle to cover the sensor and might be a good option. And if someone makes an Olympus OM adapter the Olympus OM 24 f/3.5 shift lens has a just big enough image circle to cover the sensor as well. I am not sure about the Nikon tilt shift lenses, but they may work as well. So, there are some options out there.



Feb 09, 2017 at 12:35 PM
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Don't forget the Canon 17 T/S, though ~13/3.2 equivalent might be more U than most people want in their UWA. 19/2.8 equivalent from the 24/3.5 might be the more useful option.


Feb 09, 2017 at 05:24 PM
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Steve Spencer wrote:
Fuji has also announced they will have a 23 f/4 for the GFX by the end of the year, .


Yes, I saw the mock up version of this yesterday as well. It is actually smaller than I thought... I wouldn't want to have to wait an entire year though for a wide lens for the GFX.



Feb 09, 2017 at 05:32 PM
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Gary Clennan wrote:
I wouldn't want to have to wait an entire year though for a wide lens for the GFX.


Yeah, same. I'm not gonna worry too much about trying to save up for a GFX until the 110/2 comes out (and unless it gets good reviews).

A non-fisheye 23/4 is pretty unprecedented though, you're probably going to want it. Worth keeping in mind when deciding how much to spend on a stopgap until it arrives.

I'll tell you what, though, given how small it is I think maybe Fuji can make something even faster without it turning into a hulking monster. Probably wanting to start off with affordable more mainstream lenses to try to build a user base. For sure I bet we're going to at least see a faster normal than the 63/2.8.



Feb 09, 2017 at 05:42 PM
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Lee Saxon wrote:
Don't forget the Canon 17 T/S, though ~13/3.2 equivalent might be more U than most people want in their UWA. 19/2.8 equivalent from the 24/3.5 might be the more useful option.


If anyone ever successfully makes a Nikon electronic adapter, the new 19mm f/4E, would be an impressive ~15mm-e!



Feb 09, 2017 at 08:20 PM
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MAubrey wrote:
If anyone ever successfully makes a Nikon electronic adapter, the new 19mm f/4E, would be an impressive ~15mm-e!


Red did it, so it is doable. I think the main hold-up is that while the E lenses actually set the aperture electronically like EF lenses, the still far more common G require a mechanical mechanism to do so via a lever on the mount (Nikon just got rid of the aperture rings on those lenses to be assholes ie stop you from switching brands, I guess). That's a far, far more complex adapter. As E lenses become more common I bet we'll see more "smart" Nikon adapters.




Feb 09, 2017 at 09:13 PM
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Camera West in Rancho Mirage is having a demo day tomorrow with the camera from 1000hrs to 1300hrs local, if you're in So Cal or feel like driving there.




Feb 10, 2017 at 07:44 PM
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Lee Saxon wrote:
Don't forget the Canon 17 T/S, though ~13/3.2 equivalent might be more U than most people want in their UWA. 19/2.8 equivalent from the 24/3.5 might be the more useful option.


And with the possibility for shift / stitching ...




Feb 10, 2017 at 10:18 PM
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@ Spencer

reg. Zeiss ZE/Milvus 135f2 Apo image circle

good news: is larger 55mm, therefore sufficient for the 44x33mm sensor of the Fuji GFX

I tested this and other lenses
results pls see ll link below

Chris

http://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=116001.20



Feb 11, 2017 at 12:39 AM
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grasmuc wrote:
@ Spencer

reg. Zeiss ZE/Milvus 135f2 Apo image circle

good news: is larger 55mm, therefore sufficient for the 44x33mm sensor of the Fuji GFX

I tested this and other lenses
results pls see ll link below

Chris

http://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=116001.20


Thanks for the report. It looks like many lenses longer than 100mm and most macro lenses at macro distances will cover the image circle. Shift lenses will cover it as well, although it looks like most will lose most of their ability for shift and/or tilt.



Feb 11, 2017 at 07:19 AM
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ur welcome
shift lenses with 12mm shift have/need about 67mm image circle min.
the 44x33mm sensor only has 55mm
so even with the Fuji GfX, a certain amount of shift is possible



Feb 11, 2017 at 07:33 AM
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I'm shocked that on that linked LL thread somebody heard from Metabones that they didn't think there was enough market to justify the NRE to make GFX adapters. They make Contarex and Rollei QBM adapters for frak's sake! Hopefully they were talking *just* about Canon EF since others don't require any firmware development.


Feb 11, 2017 at 09:59 AM
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Lee Saxon wrote:
I'm shocked that on that linked LL thread somebody heard from Metabones that they didn't think there was enough market to justify the NRE to make GFX adapters. They make Contarex and Rollei QBM adapters for frak's sake! Hopefully they were talking *just* about Canon EF since others don't require any firmware development.


Hi,
here is my post over at LL about my conversation with metabones that Lee Saxon refers to. I can only recommend that people tell Metabones that there is a demand for a Canon EF-GFX adapter.
Best regards - Marc


"For the ones who wait for a Canon - GFX adapter:

1. A week ago I emailed Metabones and asked if they were planning to release a Canon - GFX adapter. Their answer:

"Thank you for your enquiry and interesting in our products.
Sorry to inform you that we do not have plan to release the adapter for Canon EF to Fuji GFX camera at this moment.
I am worry that the room of coverage of the Canon TS-E lenses can be reached the whole frame size of medium format.
We do not attempt to insert the lenses for enlarging the image due to the image quality is the most concern topic of our products.
Even if the coverage of TS-E is enough, we are not sure to demand for such product on the market can be covered our development cost, etc.
Anyway, we will have further study for the possibility to release the product against the GFX camera."

Their assumption about the image circle of the TS-Es is not correct. And there are lots of other full frame lenses who cover the sensor. So the people who wish for such an adapter should write to metabones too. Maybe if they know that there is demand, they rethink the decision.


2. Another company who could make a helpful product is cambo.
Cambo now announced a Canon lens panel for the WRS Series: https://blog.cambo.com/2017/02/10/cambo-wre-ca-lens-adaptor/
Works with the electronic shutter of the IQ 3100 only (because of the lack of a shutter). Clever design. Allows you to see aperture values from the right side (as opposed to the version for the Actus). The form of the panel avoids interfering with the camera.
If they just put a Fuji GFX mount on on side of their panel then we would have the first kind-of Canon-GFX adapter. Cambo seems to be the most innovative and fastest company in this segment."



Feb 11, 2017 at 10:39 AM
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There is a big difference between making an adapter that can independently power and control the aperture of an EF lens and making an adapter that successfully integrates all native functions of a lens into a camera's control. The former's relatively easy given the broad knowledge-base available on on the EF mount's functionality. The latter requires an intimate knowledge of the GF mount that may or may not be readily available. Personally, I agree with MB's assessment of the market. The camera's the hot new thing with all sorts of exciting possibilities for mount, but how that translates into sales, no one can say. If I were in their position, I wouldn't waste any R&D on it until there was a proven demand from a large group of people with the camera already in their hands.

The H adapter was easy for Fuji since they already had an intimate knowledge of the H mount. The dumb adapters will come because they'll be cheap to manufacture and can still be sold at a premium to the smaller audience accustom to paying that premium. We may eventually see smart adapters for the M and P 645 lenses if the GFX sells well, possibly even the S lenses. My guess is, if we see a smart EF adapter, it will be much further down the line, and the price may be twice (or more) as expensive as the lenses for which its made.



Feb 11, 2017 at 12:12 PM
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freaklikeme wrote:
The dumb adapters will come


Hopefully. This is the part I care about.

freaklikeme wrote:
My guess is, if we see a smart EF adapter, it will be ... be twice (or more) as expensive as the lenses for which its made.


I don't think it'll be *that* bad. Cambo's is only $1300 and you know they're not selling in volume.



Feb 11, 2017 at 01:39 PM
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I hope before I die, I will see a somewhat affordable MF digital camera, that has a sensor sized as the old film MF dimensions I was used to using (56x45mm, 56x56mm, 56x70mm, 56x90mm). I realized such a thing would be in the stratosphere now from a cost perspective, but 33x44mm feels like an insult to call that medium format. Over glorified full frame seems more apropos at this point AS far as when will I die? 17 years according to actuary tables.


Feb 11, 2017 at 06:02 PM
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The lens prices are more in the line with high end FF lenses than what has become the norm for MF lenses. Much better than I expected.



Feb 12, 2017 at 10:02 AM
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