p.52 #2 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
I paid almost $6500 for my new Nikon D3s. This seems to blow that camera (and it's replacements) away. I am most anxious to hold it!! Unfortunately, it ships the day I get back from winter Yosimite trip - that would have been a great place to try it out. My friend has the Phase One - would have liked to compared the results. Oh well - better late than never?!
p.52 #3 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
Delatant wrote:
I paid almost $6500 for my new Nikon D3s. This seems to blow that camera (and it's replacements) away. I am most anxious to hold it!! Unfortunately, it ships the day I get back from winter Yosimite trip - that would have been a great place to try it out. My friend has the Phase One - would have liked to compared the results. Oh well - better late than never?!
Totally different cameras. Don't see one blowing away the other. I'd find it a bit awkward shooting night football or going on Safari with the Fuji.
Jan 06, 2017 at 11:51 AM
mshi Offline • • • • [X]
p.52 #4 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
IMHO Fujifilm has set itself up for a total folly. How many hobbyists will likely upgrade to the so-called Medium Format?
p.52 #6 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
Sorry, I was so loose with words before. I have seen the detail in 50/100mp medium format cameras and it is stunning. That is what I was referring to when I wrote, "blow away". Sorry friends!
Jan 06, 2017 at 01:25 PM
mshi Offline • • • • [X]
p.52 #7 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
itai195 wrote:
Why would this only appeal to hobbyists?
If you read annual reports of all camera makers, you will discover a common fact that is to stay float all camera makers have to grab hobbyist market segment aggressively.
p.52 #11 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
Clearly there is a sizable market for the GFX which would be ideal, as I am sure the production levels of the GFX will be much less than that for the XT2/XPro2.
Another perspective
From the Fuji Rumors site:
The details of the GFX as known:
FUJIFILM GFX CAMERA
Fujifilm GFX 50S F
Announcement Janaury 19 R
Release February 23 R
Body Price 6999/$6499 R
G-Mount F
Mirrorless F
Weather Sealed body/lenses F
X-Processor Pro (used in X-T2/X-Pro2) F
No Low-Pass Filter F
Contrast Detection AF only with 117 AF points F
RGB color histograms in the live view F
51.4MP 44 x 33mm Medium Format Bayer Sensor (No X-Trans, because not needed with this huge 50MP sensor) F
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (default), 3:2, 1:1, 4:5, 6:7 and 6:17 F
MF Sensor made by Sony but customized by Fujifilm. The challenge is how to get the light hit the sensor evenly in the center and also at the corners. In order to achieve that, Fujifilm customized the microlenses in front of the sensor and optimized the silicon process. F
MF sensor is 1.7 (70%) times bigger than Full Frame. Crop factor 0.79x. F
Weight about 800g F
12 pins on the lens mount (useful when it comes to adapting third-party lenses) F
Flange Distance of only 26.7 to shorten the back focus distance as much as possible. This prevents vignetting to achieve edge-to-edge sharpness of the worlds highest level source dpreview. F
ISO: base-ISO 100 :: Max ISO 51200 F
minimum back focus 16.7mm F
Focal Plane shutter max 1/4000 F
Flash Sync Speed 1/125 F
Bigger Battery compared to X-T2/X-Pro2 F
Electronic shutter F
Full-HD with 30 fps F
Dual SD Cards UHS-II F
EVF: 3.69 megadots with a magnification of 0.85x (X-T1/2: 0.77x) with frame rate of around 60 fps F
EVF: Detachable and fully tiltable if used with an adapter F
EVF has a hot shoe on the top F
All Film Simulations of X-T2/X-Pro2 available (including ACROS) F
Adapter for Leaf Shutter Lenses in the works F
Tethering support at launch F
Joystick F
E-ink LCD display on the top of the camera (always visible, even if camera is switched off) F
WiFi F
dynamic range settings of DR800% and maybe even DR1600%. Source fujixsecrets
USB 3 data transfer and charging F
HDMI F
Mic, headphone and remote control outputs F
Tilt LCD like X-T2 (3 way tilting) F
Touch LCD screen F
diopter adjustment F
11 Fn buttons Source fujixsecrets
shooting intervals of 700 ms F
quick start up time F
FUJIFILM GF LENSES
GF63mmF2.8 R WR (50mm equiv.) available at launch. Price 1,599/$1,499 R
GF32-64mmF4 R LM WR (25-51mm equiv.) available at launch. Price $2,299 R
GF120mmF4 Macro R LM OIS WR (95mm equiv.). Magnification of 1:0.5. available at launch. $2,599 R
GF110mmF2 R LM WR (87mm equiv.) available mid 2017 F
GF23mmF4 R LM WR (18mm equiv.) available mid 2017 F
GF45mmF2.8 R WR (35mm equiv.) available late 2017 F
Dedicated C positions on the aperture ring (The C position can be locked to avoid accidental changes) F
The lenses are ready for sensors with a resolution of 100MP F
Only the GF32-64mmF4 R LM WR zoom lens has inner focussing F
The prime lenses are optically corrected for distortion F
Jan 07, 2017 at 03:59 AM
Steve Spencer Offline • • • • • • • Upload & Sell: On
p.52 #12 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
charles.K wrote:
Clearly there is a sizable market for the GFX which would be ideal, as I am sure the production levels of the GFX will be much less than that for the XT2/XPro2.
Another perspective
From the Fuji Rumors site:
The details of the GFX as known:
FUJIFILM GFX CAMERA
Fujifilm GFX 50S F
Announcement Janaury 19 R
Release February 23 R
Body Price 6999/$6499 R
G-Mount F
Mirrorless F
Weather Sealed body/lenses F
X-Processor Pro (used in X-T2/X-Pro2) F
No Low-Pass Filter F
Contrast Detection AF only with 117 AF points F
RGB color histograms in the live view F
51.4MP 44 x 33mm Medium Format Bayer Sensor (No X-Trans, because not needed with this huge 50MP sensor) F
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (default), 3:2, 1:1, 4:5, 6:7 and 6:17 F
MF Sensor made by Sony but customized by Fujifilm. The challenge is how to get the light hit the sensor evenly in the center and also at the corners. In order to achieve that, Fujifilm customized the microlenses in front of the sensor and optimized the silicon process. F
MF sensor is 1.7 (70%) times bigger than Full Frame. Crop factor 0.79x. F
Weight about 800g F
12 pins on the lens mount (useful when it comes to adapting third-party lenses) F
Flange Distance of only 26.7 to shorten the back focus distance as much as possible. This prevents vignetting to achieve edge-to-edge sharpness of the worlds highest level source dpreview. F
ISO: base-ISO 100 :: Max ISO 51200 F
minimum back focus 16.7mm F
Focal Plane shutter max 1/4000 F
Flash Sync Speed 1/125 F
Bigger Battery compared to X-T2/X-Pro2 F
Electronic shutter F
Full-HD with 30 fps F
Dual SD Cards UHS-II F
EVF: 3.69 megadots with a magnification of 0.85x (X-T1/2: 0.77x) with frame rate of around 60 fps F
EVF: Detachable and fully tiltable if used with an adapter F
EVF has a hot shoe on the top F
All Film Simulations of X-T2/X-Pro2 available (including ACROS) F
Adapter for Leaf Shutter Lenses in the works F
Tethering support at launch F
Joystick F
E-ink LCD display on the top of the camera (always visible, even if camera is switched off) F
WiFi F
dynamic range settings of DR800% and maybe even DR1600%. Source fujixsecrets
USB 3 data transfer and charging F
HDMI F
Mic, headphone and remote control outputs F
Tilt LCD like X-T2 (3 way tilting) F
Touch LCD screen F
diopter adjustment F
11 Fn buttons Source fujixsecrets
shooting intervals of 700 ms F
quick start up time F
FUJIFILM GF LENSES
GF63mmF2.8 R WR (50mm equiv.) available at launch. Price 1,599/$1,499 R
GF32-64mmF4 R LM WR (25-51mm equiv.) available at launch. Price $2,299 R
GF120mmF4 Macro R LM OIS WR (95mm equiv.). Magnification of 1:0.5. available at launch. $2,599 R
GF110mmF2 R LM WR (87mm equiv.) available mid 2017 F
GF23mmF4 R LM WR (18mm equiv.) available mid 2017 F
GF45mmF2.8 R WR (35mm equiv.) available late 2017 F
Dedicated C positions on the aperture ring (The C position can be locked to avoid accidental changes) F
The lenses are ready for sensors with a resolution of 100MP F
Only the GF32-64mmF4 R LM WR zoom lens has inner focussing F
The prime lenses are optically corrected for distortion F...Show more →
Thanks for the update Charles. I would just like to add one bit about the crop factor. The .79X crop factor is comparing the 3 X 2 format of the a FF 35mm sensor with the 4 X 3 format of the new camera by measuring the diagonal. In many situations, however, what you are shooting will determine the aspect ratio you want to use. This means that the crop factor will be different for squarer crops vs. more rectangular crops. For crops that are 4 X 3 or squarer the crop factor is .73X and for crops that are 3 X 2 or a skinnier rectangle the crop factor is .82X. One of the reason I really like a 4 X 3 sensor is that I often crop squarer and thus throw away quite a bit on the ends of my shots with a 3 X 2 sensor. On such shots the bigger sensor will get you almost a full stop (.9 of a stop) less depth of field than a FF 35mm sensor at the same aperture and the decreased noise advantage of the big sensor will be more noticeable too. In contrast for shots composed and cropped for a skinnier rectangle the 4 X 3 sensor will be throwing away more of the capture image. On such shots the larger sensor will only get you about a half of a stop (almost exactly) less depth of field than a FF 35mm sensor and the noise advantage will be less noticeable. So the best aspect ratio for the shot will make a pretty big difference in how much the bigger sensor will be an improvement over a FF 35mm sensor.
p.52 #13 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
It might not be accurate but to make it simple for myself I just compare the longest sides of the sensors when determining the crop factor so 36/44 is what I use for this sensor compared to FF.
p.52 #16 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
chez wrote:
Totally different cameras. Don't see one blowing away the other. I'd find it a bit awkward shooting night football or going on Safari with the Fuji.
And yet there will still be threads about how the GFX doesn't track leaping gazelle properly and aonother about how without a 600mm equivalent it isn't a complete system. Just wait for the first thread titled "GFX for BIF??"
p.52 #17 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
Do you guys think Fuji will have much less dedication towards their APS-C line with the medium format being released?
Dave
Jan 07, 2017 at 05:27 PM
Steve Spencer Offline • • • • • • • Upload & Sell: On
p.52 #18 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
joakim wrote:
It might not be accurate but to make it simple for myself I just compare the longest sides of the sensors when determining the crop factor so 36/44 is what I use for this sensor compared to FF.
That will get you the .82X crop and will work well if you shoot primarily aspect ratios of 3 X 2 and skinnier rectangles. It will be somewhat misleading when you want a squarer aspect ratio, however.
p.52 #19 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
dthrog00 wrote:
Do you guys think Fuji will have much less dedication towards their APS-C line with the medium format being released?
Dave
Hi Dave. No, Fuji are trying encompass both sides of the 35mm FF divide. APS-C for 80 to 85% of their market, with a smaller select group of photographers with the GFX. Many photographers will have a choice then whether to opt for FF DSLR's/Mirrorless or the similar sized GFX
p.52 #20 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
charles.K wrote:
Hi Dave. No, Fuji are trying encompass both sides of the 35mm FF divide. APS-C for 80 to 85% of their market, with a smaller select group of photographers with the GFX. Many photographers will have a choice then whether to opt for FF DSLR's/Mirrorless or the similar sized GFX
In hindsight it turns out a good thing Fujifilm skipped 35mm. Now they have a system that's much more portable and one with measurably higher image quality. Compelling.
