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p.34 #1 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)


FF @ 1:1
576mm^2 = 24 x 24 = 33.9 diagonal

FF @ 4:3
768mm^2 = 24 x 32 = 40 diagonal

FF @ 3:2
964mm^2 = 36 x 24 = 43.3 diagonal



GFX @ 1:1
900mm^2 = 30 x 30 = 42.4 diagonal (less than FF 3:2)
1089mm^2 = 33 x 33 = 46.7 diagonal (more than FF 3:2)

GFX @ 3:2
1289mm^2 = 44 x 29.3 = 52.8 diagonal

GFX @ 4:3
1452mm^2 = 44 x 33 = 55 diagonal






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Sep 22, 2016 at 08:07 PM
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p.34 #2 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)


Here image circle on some tech lenses

https://captureintegration.com/image-circles/

Now you need to pick your format size too. 4:3 is standard in MF but you can use 3:2 as well on the Fuji plus others



Sep 22, 2016 at 08:11 PM
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p.34 #3 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)


Perhaps Fuji can be convinced to build a 24 shift lens for this mount...


Sep 22, 2016 at 08:15 PM
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p.34 #4 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)


Just as a example I had this lens on a IQ 160 in a tech cam I could actually shift this a full 20mm right and left. It a big image circle of 115

Schneider Apo-Digitar 5.6 / 60mm 115 62

IQ 160 is a full frame digital back. The Fuji is smaller so maybe to do a shift on the same format size 44x33 like some of the same CMOS chip you may only need 100 to stitch 20mm either. This is a huge stitch BTW

So not doing the Math here but if you could get 90 out of a Canon T/S we maybe okay

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Sep 22, 2016 at 08:16 PM
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p.34 #5 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)


karlfoto wrote:
Perhaps Fuji can be convinced to build a 24 shift lens for this mount...


^^ Sounds like this will be really needed.




Sep 22, 2016 at 08:17 PM
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p.34 #6 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)


RustyBug wrote:
FF @ 1:1
576mm^2 = 24 x 24 = 33.9 diagonal

FF @ 4:3
768mm^2 = 24 x 32 = 40 diagonal

FF @ 3:2
964mm^2 = 36 x 24 = 43.3 diagonal

GFX @ 1:1
900mm^2 = 30 x 30 = 42.4 diagonal (less than FF 3:2)
1089mm^2 = 33 x 33 = 46.7 diagonal (more than FF 3:2)

GFX @ 3:2
1289mm^2 = 44 x 29.3 = 52.8 diagonal

GFX @ 4:3
1452mm^2 = 44 x 33 = 55 diagonal




That's a lot of flexibility while still retaining really high resolution




Sep 22, 2016 at 08:23 PM
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p.34 #7 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)


And evidently shows that FF glass can be put to use even if it doesn't cover the full 44 x 33. Particularly noting how much we routinely throw away from the native 3:2 format to achieve a different desired final format.

Personally, I'm fond of the 4:3 format, so it's golden for that with larger IC glass, but even @ reduced 4:3 to accommodate standard FF 3:2 IC, you're still (albeity slightly) larger (i.e. at least not smaller) than FF ... although I think there would be plenty of FF glass that could allow for a bit more than that as well.

919mm^2 = 35 x 26 = 43.7 diagonal

I didn't do the numbers for 4:5 (8 x 10), but the story assuredly repeats itself to a degree.



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Sep 22, 2016 at 08:32 PM
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I never thought 3:2 was a really good format to become the de facto standard but the digital shift was fast and chaotic. I really like this new miniMF format. I imagine we'll be seeing a lot of 1:1 coming out of these new camera's



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Sep 22, 2016 at 08:37 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
Latest interview posted at Dpreview:



Here is a screenshot showing the shutter options: (captured from the above video)


Love the idea of mechanical+electronic, assuming that means you get the full range of exposure times. Anything that can be done with the MS (1/4000 and slower) is, higher speeds with the ES.



Sep 22, 2016 at 08:48 PM
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rscheffler wrote:
Is that the APO ASPH version? It's already more costly in R form than M... definitely not a bargain in either mount. The non-ASPH might be a different matter.


Non-APO. I have no idea if the APO version will cover it.
I sold off my 90AA a long time ago, kinda regret doing so. I liked it a hair better then the 90APO-M. Though more to do with feeling in hand then anything. And the fact that the 90 FL is really quite a difficult one on RF cameras.



Sep 22, 2016 at 09:05 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
I have not read about ISO 200. Is it the base ISO for this camera?


Base ISO is 100. Maybe just preproduction firmware in the video?



Sep 22, 2016 at 09:10 PM
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adamdewilde wrote:
Base ISO is 100. Maybe just preproduction firmware.


Also, we see plenty of sensors with stated ratings ... that actually perform @ lower ISO ratings when tested (and a few that are spot on or higher). We'll have to see if they stick with 100, and how true that really holds.

With 100 on the dial, I realize that there are only so many values on the dial to choose from, so maybe they could go lower via menu selection and/or lower via faux firmware selections.



Sep 22, 2016 at 09:19 PM
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nehemiahphoto wrote:
I know it's contentious (and I'll not pollute this thread with my opinion) but my real curiosity is if Fuji continues the x-trans in future ASP-C bodies. I could see it going either way. Fuji could go bayer by establishing some consistency between lines. Obviously, with the XA-1 and now GFX 50S, Fuji has established that IQ with a Bayer is entirely possible (and I think necessary) for many.

But they could also leave it as it serves a lower end of the market, it's an emblem of that line (however debatable). It would be wonderful if they offered both,
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After shooting x-trans sensor cameras for about four years a) I'm not convinced that the x-trans pattern makes a significant positive effect or b) hurts anything.

I wouldn't mind if they just moved to the traditional Bayer pattern.



Sep 22, 2016 at 09:24 PM
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p.34 #14 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)


http://fujifilm-x.com/gfx/

3 videos @ bottom of page
(2 of which are repeats, but all in one place)



Sep 22, 2016 at 09:29 PM
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charles.K wrote:
Here is the GFX 50s in the slim/sleek mode without the view finder. Great option !!


Fred Miranda wrote:
That's the landscape mode! Love it.


I love it for a different reason: it looks like the Hasselblad 500 C/M replacement model.

Does anyone know if it will be possible to buy the GFX 50S in this configuration (i.e. without the viewfinder)?



Sep 22, 2016 at 11:16 PM
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genji wrote:
I love it for a different reason: it looks like the Hasselblad 500 C/M replacement model.

Does anyone know if it will be possible to buy the GFX 50S in this configuration (i.e. without the viewfinder)?


Apparently yes:

"Basically, the GFX 50S body comes in five different sizes: no EVF, standard EVF, tiltable EVF, standard EVF with BG, and tiltable EVF with BG. Fujifilm promises a price way below 10,000 USD for the body with a standard prime lens. The GFX 50S will be available in spring 2017."

https://fuji-x-secrets.net/2016/09/21/inside-the-fujifilm-gfx-50s/



Sep 22, 2016 at 11:47 PM
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twoeye wrote:
Apparently yes:

"Basically, the GFX 50S body comes in five different sizes: no EVF, standard EVF, tiltable EVF, standard EVF with BG, and tiltable EVF with BG. Fujifilm promises a price way below 10,000 USD for the body with a standard prime lens. The GFX 50S will be available in spring 2017."

https://fuji-x-secrets.net/2016/09/21/inside-the-fujifilm-gfx-50s/


Excellent! Thank you. I read the article but somehow missed that info. The 45/2.8 lens I'd want to use with a GFX 50S in 1:1 mode doesn't ship until late 2017 so that gives me plenty of time to raise the cash.



Sep 22, 2016 at 11:58 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
I have not read about ISO 200. Is it the base ISO for this camera?


It could be a limit for electronic shutter, as shown in the picture. I hope not.



Sep 23, 2016 at 12:08 AM
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gdanmitchell wrote:
After shooting x-trans sensor cameras for about four years a) I'm not convinced that the x-trans pattern makes a significant positive effect or b) hurts anything.

I wouldn't mind if they just moved to the traditional Bayer pattern.


HERESY!





Sep 23, 2016 at 12:11 AM
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gdanmitchell wrote:
After shooting x-trans sensor cameras for about four years a) I'm not convinced that the x-trans pattern makes a significant positive effect or b) hurts anything.

I wouldn't mind if they just moved to the traditional Bayer pattern.


Agreed. Just wish it didn't mess with the work flow for no real advantage.



Sep 23, 2016 at 12:24 AM
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