p.23 #1 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
GMPhotography wrote:
Rich I don't see one as well. I really have no need anymore as I am completely wireless with all my Godox strobes. Both AD 360 II and my Godox Sonys which I would have to add a Nikon transmitter 50 dollars and i would have to add a Nikon portable but I could fully use my 3 AD 360II strobes. So I would have to add about 170 to my costs .
I'm wireless as well but I always like the idea of having that PC socket as an emergency backup should my hotshoe or wireless system malfunction. I have lived without one with the A7's but I bet if we see a 9 series from Sony, it will have a PC socket. The lack of one on this camera does say something about it's intended use and user base/ market (non professional like Edward says). I do think if it's intended to be used like say a Mamiya 6/7, a wider than 35 equivalent lens can't come soon enough.
p.23 #2 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
Dpedraza wrote:
You're not missing anything. Just talking out of his ass like usual
What I figured. This stuff really bothers me when bad info is spewed out. He has no idea what MF is I'm sure of it. I have the gold bond ticket on it I spent 10s of thousands on it.
p.23 #3 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
Tariq agree a PC port could be useful. On lenses if the can get say 18,24,35,50,85,135 equivalents or close to it this would be much better on release. I understand why only two though like Sony they don't know if it will fly in the market. Seems like both of them underestimated that one.
This will wind up in Pros hands and use but again you need to supplemented it as well. With Sony I don't have to I don't need anything else to help it. The Hassy is going to need a little help for a lot of Pros. But let's be honest it's after my workshop folks. Great income, want the best but they are tired of other MF options at a very high price. There are thousands that fit that market and a lot here as well. As a hobby this is a awesome high end hobby camera. It's a lot like the mindset of buying a Rx1r II. You know the limitations but you love the high quality output. I love mine it's my hobby camera but it's also my 35 lens as well. Lol
p.23 #4 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
For the love of God Hasselblad! Give this camera to someone with a credible reputation in photography (that does not mean an ahole with a large youtube/instagram following!!), maybe someone who works with National Geographic if its too difficult for you guys to figure this out, follow them around for at least 3 days on a job and record it on video. Then post the damn samples!!!
p.23 #5 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
leetmode wrote:
For the love of God Hasselblad! Give this camera to someone with a credible reputation in photography (that does not mean an ahole with a large youtube/instagram following!!), maybe someone who works with National Geographic if its too difficult for you guys to figure this out, follow them around for at least 3 days on a job and record it on video. Then post the damn samples!!!
You know I love ya for saying that.
This social media shit is doing no one any good. As you can clearly see in these reviews lately. So much bad data
p.23 #6 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
leetmode wrote:
For the love of God Hasselblad! Give this camera to someone with a credible reputation in photography (that does not mean an ahole with a large youtube/instagram following!!), maybe someone who works with National Geographic if its too difficult for you guys to figure this out, follow them around for at least 3 days on a job and record it on video. Then post the damn samples!!!
Ming Thein is the person to watch. He will have much to say on this camera.
p.23 #7 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
leetmode wrote:
For the love of God Hasselblad! Give this camera to someone with a credible reputation in photography (that does not mean an ahole with a large youtube/instagram following!!), maybe someone who works with National Geographic if its too difficult for you guys to figure this out, follow them around for at least 3 days on a job and record it on video. Then post the damn samples!!!
I have it on good authority that it is in the hands of credible photographers.
p.23 #8 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
edwardkaraa wrote:
My feeling is that this camera will not see much professional use. It will be the digital equivalent of a Mamiya 7 and will be mostly used for landscapes and street.
I think pending lens performance, thats pretty much how I'd use it. A MFD street and travel camera. But I'm after a certain look, so if the lenses don't jive with me, I wouldn't bother with it. As in all fairness it's bigger then the alternatives out there (though the alts have smaller sensors).
p.23 #12 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
Contrast detect isn't necessarily a bad thing.... I think Panasonic is only CD, as is the Leica SL, and they seem to have pretty fast AF (though depending on how bright it is). What might be more concerning is the fps rate off the sensor to refresh CDAF. I think the EVF is 30fps and from that Hassy quote earlier, sounds like they're playing it up as more than sufficient...
Anyone have any insights about the capabilities of the Sony sensor for refresh rates, etc.?
p.23 #13 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
leetmode wrote:
For the love of God Hasselblad! Give this camera to someone with a credible reputation in photography (that does not mean an ahole with a large youtube/instagram following!!), maybe someone who works with National Geographic if its too difficult for you guys to figure this out, follow them around for at least 3 days on a job and record it on video. Then post the damn samples!!!
Honestly, the first name that popped into my head was Phillip Reeve.
p.23 #14 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
rattymouse wrote:
Ming Thein is the person to watch. He will have much to say on this camera.
I would've strongly agreed before he became a Hasselblad brand ambassador. Now, I have some doubts. From his writing and comments he doesn't seem like the kind of guy I would expect to sell out, but his posting so far on this camera have been...more than a little optimistic.
p.23 #15 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
Lee Saxon wrote:
I would've strongly agreed before he became a Hasselblad brand ambassador. Now, I have some doubts. From his writing and comments he doesn't seem like the kind of guy I would expect to sell out, but his posting so far on this camera have been...more than a little optimistic.
p.23 #16 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
rattymouse wrote:
You dont see a ton of optimism here?
That can be an idiomatic way of asking if I think there's reason to be optimistic, so I'm not sure if you're asking me that or if I'm literally seeing optimism here on the forum?
Either way, my answer is "sure, but my point is that Ming Thein is usually much more restrained than us."
Although I just re-read his post on the X1D-50c to second-guess myself and it's not as unrestrained as I thought the first time through. I think the bad taste in my mouth comes from his referring to the lenses - which have a lot of vignetting and distortion for their small max apertures - as "no compromise."
p.23 #17 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
Fred Miranda wrote:
IMO, discussion has been well balanced here with fair criticism and praise. So far, we can only discuss technical aspects of the X1D system but whenever RAW samples emerge, we will be able to scrutinize IQ.
There is curiosity of how much better tonality and dynamic range the slightly bigger MF sensor provides when compared to the A7RII in the real world.
To me, the biggest difference won't be in resolution or overall dynamic range but color accuracy and tonal gradation especially towards the highlights.
For those curious how the number compare, DXO tested both sensors and here are the results:
Hi Fred,
Having performed a limited number of stitched images (flat and rotational) with my A7r, I have created some relatively remarkable results. I will have to perform more flat stitched images. But, presuming you have the time and conditions are OK when using the camera in a vertical orientation (and there is no problem with something too close to the camera) you would produce an image size of 46mm wide (24mm +11mm +11mm- 3 images with 11mm displacement left and right of center) X 36mm high before any cropping was done to assure a rectangular image. That is very close to the size of the new Hassleblad camera image size of 44mm X 33mm. I would suspect that from my observations from flat stitching that we should see some degree of increased resolution from the Hasselblad, but we will need to wait for reports and posted images.
p.23 #18 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
Rich, by the numbers the resolution increase from our 36MP A7r is 19%.
From the 42MP A7rII, it would by 10%.
You gain a little in DR , around 1/2 stop compared to the A7r and about 3/4 stop compared to A7rII. Maybe 1/3 to 1/2 stop in noise performance. All going by the DxO posted numbers for Pentax 645z, A7r and A7rII.
None of these differences are dramatic in and of itself imo.
p.23 #19 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
naturephoto1 wrote:
Hi Fred,
Having performed a limited number of stitched images (flat and rotational) with my A7r, I have created some relatively remarkable results. I will have to perform more flat stitched images. But, presuming you have the time and conditions are OK when using the camera in a vertical orientation (and there is no problem with something too close to the camera) you would produce an image size of 46mm wide (24mm +11mm +11mm- 3 images with 11mm displacement left and right of center) X 36mm high before any cropping was done to assure a rectangular image. That is very close to the size of the new Hassleblad camera image size of 44mm X 33mm. I would suspect that from my observations from flat stitching that we should see some degree of increased resolution from the Hasselblad, but we will need to wait for reports and posted images.
I really think better tonal and color quality is what the X1D is all about. Upcoming FF Sony sensors will likely have higher resolution but may not be able to match tone gradation and color accuracy, perhaps making the X1D a better choice if that's crucial for what you shoot. With that, one must decide if adapting H lenses and losing compactness or if limited line-up is a handicap or not.
I'm very curious to see what the new full frame sensor tech brings to the table. Perhaps the small gap in IQ will get even smaller.
p.23 #20 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
Fred Miranda wrote:
I really think better tonality and color quality is what the X1D is all about. Upcoming FF Sony sensors will likely have higher resolution but may not be able to match tone gradation and color accuracy, perhaps making the X1D a better choice if that's crucial for what you shoot. With that, one must decide if adapting H lenses and losing compactness or if limited line-up is a handicap or not.
I'm very curious to see what the new full frame sensor tech brings to the table. Perhaps the small gap in IQ will get even smaller.
Hi Fred,
I too look forward to the next generation Sony cameras will be in the A9 and the A7rIII. Hopefully one or both will be the rumored 72 to 80 MP.
