eric1 wrote:
Olympus said it would be better than any crop sensor out there. Now at $2k, or even $1700, they're gonna have to prove it to me if they want my money. I'm not going to preorder.
Yeah, but they also claimed that the E-M10 sensor was superior to any APS-C sensor at the time of its release, so you'll definitely want to take those claims with a grain of salt.
He's an Olympus employee so we have to take that with a bit wariness, however it does seem to suggest a worthy upgrade. I find it a little disconcerting that the reviewers are all self-admitted non-action shooters. For a camera touted for it's speed, it seems strange to me that the camera wasn't offered to a sports shooter or two for review.
You don't know that. I am sure we will see some reviews from sports and wildlife photographers before too long. You have to understand that mirrorless cameras have not been known to be a good system for action/speed photography, so I am sure there is only a small handful (maybe none) of sports/wildlife photographers who are currently using m43 cameras ... so it will be awhile before we see any reports/reviews pitting the E-II to a DSLR.
Iwas joeking wrote:
He's an Olympus employee so we have to take that with a bit wariness, however it does seem to suggest a worthy upgrade. I find it a little disconcerting that the reviewers are all self-admitted non-action shooters. For a camera touted for it's speed, it seems strange to me that the camera wasn't offered to a sports shooter or two for review.
I'd like to get one of these but I haven't been able to get over the price yet. Just seems like gouging compared to this camera's competition. I'll at least wait for more reviews.
bobbytan wrote:
You don't know that. I am sure we will see some reviews from sports and wildlife photographers before too long. You have to understand that mirrorless cameras have not been known to be a good system for action/speed photography, so I am sure there is only a small handful (maybe none) of sports/wildlife photographers who are currently using m43 cameras ... so it will be awhile before we see any reports/reviews pitting the E-II to a DSLR.
You're right I don't know who has the camera, but of the group given the camera to review so far, none have been sports or actions shooters and I would argue that would be very easy to do. The fact that the first group of reviewers are not action shooters is a bit suspicious, that's all I'm saying.
Wow, I'm very surprised they went with that price after all. I guessed around $1699. With the grip and a couple extra batteries we're pushing $2500. It had darn well better live up to the hype they created themselves or there's going to be a lot of unhappy customers, me included.
"Continuous AF has long been the limiting factor of most mirrorless systems, at least until PDAF points on-chip were introduced. Olympus has lagged behind Sony, Fuji and even Canon in this arena; the original E-M1 couldn’t really track moving subjects, and continuous focus was hit and miss. The EM1.2 is much better – I’d say something like a 70% critical hit rate with my erratically running toddler, and acquisition and tracking were of course better with lower frame rates. I suspect the camera will do much better in the hands of a seasoned sports photographer and more predictable moving objects – I’ll leave further testing in this arena to those whose normal cameras don’t have just one big AF point. Suffice to say: I didn’t consider C-AF viable before, but seems to be now. It still doesn’t give me quite the same level of confidence as Nikon’s latest AF system in the D5/D500, but it’s at least comparable with the midlevel 39-point systems.
Unfortunately, despite the PDAF points on sensor, the camera still has the same achilles’ heel as every contrast-detect based camera: it struggles with strongly backlit situations and simply can’t find focus. It inevitably defaults to the distance which maximizes the clipped areas (which makes sense, as CDAF works by maximizing contrast – and this situation satisfies that criteria)."
bobbytan wrote:
These figures don't count for anything if the camera is unable to accurately lock focus on the first frame ... but I am willing to bet that it will, just as I had bet that the price will not exceed $1,699.
I find it funny that the figure representing "DSLR Flagship" pretends that the 1DX/D4s/1DXii/D5 don't exist. Olympus make some great equipment but their marketing department is incredibly dishonest.
They are comparing entry-level DSLRs which is quite misleading but I wouldn't call it incredibly dishonest.
whumber wrote:
I find it funny that the figure representing "DSLR Flagship" pretends that the 1DX/D4s/1DXii/D5 don't exist. Olympus make some great equipment but their marketing department is incredibly dishonest.
