Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
p.13 #1Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
Current bid on Choppy is 5 grand. 
Im kidding
Im kidding
Apr 27, 2016 at 12:52 PM
p.13 #2Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
zhangyue wrote:
Anybody know how sony's new 70-300 doing for landscape? I am not entirely happy with Sony 70-200f4 I had. Plus extra reach to 300.
I don't know the answer to that but with 100mm of extra reach in a smaller package for a slightly cheaper price I think it would be quite the feat if it were optically superior to the 70-200f4.
Anybody know how sony's new 70-300 doing for landscape? I am not entirely happy with Sony 70-200f4 I had. Plus extra reach to 300.
I don't know the answer to that but with 100mm of extra reach in a smaller package for a slightly cheaper price I think it would be quite the feat if it were optically superior to the 70-200f4.
Apr 27, 2016 at 12:53 PM
p.13 #3Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
GMPhotography wrote:
Current bid on Choppy is 5 grand.
Im kidding
Kidding because you wouldn't sell it for that I'm assuming!
Current bid on Choppy is 5 grand.
Im kidding
Kidding because you wouldn't sell it for that I'm assuming!
Apr 27, 2016 at 12:54 PM
p.13 #4Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
5 grand would buy me a lot of gear. If it was sitting on a table in front of me , who knows.
Apr 27, 2016 at 12:57 PM
p.13 #5Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
Vcize wrote:
I don't know the answer to that but with 100mm of extra reach in a smaller package for a slightly cheaper price I think it would be quite the feat if it were optically superior to the 70-200f4.
Me too i consider it to be a more prosumer lens. BTW i hate that word but its a industry standard
zhangyue wrote
Anybody know how sony's new 70-300 doing for landscape? I am not entirely happy with Sony 70-200f4 I had. Plus extra reach to 300.Me too i consider it to be a more prosumer lens. BTW i hate that word but its a industry standard
Apr 27, 2016 at 12:59 PM
p.13 #6Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
I just hand-held tested my sample (-III VM on A7RII) on a cloudy, low contrast day here in Seattle and the corners were not as bad as I've seen in some of the samples, but not quite as good as "choppy". Definitely some astigmatism in the corners, but only really noticeable at 100% viewing. CA is there, but fixable. Can't say I nailed the focus, due to the relative insensitivity of turning the focus ring and changing the sharpness at infinity (this case ~1 km). I was backed off from infinity by a little bit which seemed to be the best point of focus in the center.
When we get a proper sunny day with some contrast I will throw it on the tripod and take some real test pictures and post.
I will say that upon inspection of some of my hand-held hiking pics taken last summer the far corners were a tiny bit smeared, but nothing that detracted from the overall image since there was nothing of great importance in the corners.
Fred may have mentioned this already - but my corners don't appear to improve or worsen upon stopping down, which is a bit strange. I suppose it could be a cover glass issue.
- J
When we get a proper sunny day with some contrast I will throw it on the tripod and take some real test pictures and post.
I will say that upon inspection of some of my hand-held hiking pics taken last summer the far corners were a tiny bit smeared, but nothing that detracted from the overall image since there was nothing of great importance in the corners.
Fred may have mentioned this already - but my corners don't appear to improve or worsen upon stopping down, which is a bit strange. I suppose it could be a cover glass issue.
- J
Apr 27, 2016 at 01:12 PM
p.13 #7Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
Ha....Choppy is sort of a unicorn right now. If I had that magical unicorn, then I'd consider ditching the ZE 15. But as of now it seems as though it's a mythical beast that might be out of my reach. So even if Choppy wiped the floor with the ZE, my VC 15 doesn't appear to be Choppy (again though, I need to take some time to test the lens I received today.)
GMPhotography wrote:
Tim if you want me to test it against Choppy let me know. Just pay for the shipping and Ill run out and test it
Apr 27, 2016 at 01:16 PM
p.13 #8Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
Fred, are you buying Choppy from Guy? I see you listed the 15mm ZE 
Apr 27, 2016 at 01:18 PM
p.13 #9Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
OMG, I was ready to ship back little choppy but can't find it anywhere. I think I lost it!
Maybe it's in my camera bag cozying-up to the Loxia. I will check..
Maybe it's in my camera bag cozying-up to the Loxia. I will check..
Apr 27, 2016 at 01:20 PM
p.13 #10Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
Make sure insure it at 5 grand shipping once you find it.
Apr 27, 2016 at 01:23 PM
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p.13 #11Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
AGeoJO wrote:
Fred, are you buying Choppy from Guy? I see you listed the 15mm ZE
He is not selling it but if he changes his mind, I'm first in line!
Fred, are you buying Choppy from Guy? I see you listed the 15mm ZE
He is not selling it but if he changes his mind, I'm first in line!
Apr 27, 2016 at 01:27 PM
p.13 #12Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
Today I received my E-mount Voigtländer 15mm lens. Sadly it looks like Fred's lens or even worse in the corners.
Here are some links to full size images for your own evaluation:
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All images shown were shot with aperture f/8 and the same sharpening settings as posted by Fred above. If you need to see any other apertures just let me know (wide open until f/11 are available).
At the moment I have no idea what to do.
a) Return the lens and try another one.
b) Forget about 15mm and just get the Batis 18mm.
c) Send the lens to Voigtländer for some adjustments.
Difficult decision.
Boris
Here are some links to full size images for your own evaluation:
Image 1
Image 2
Image 3
Image 4
Image 5
Image 6
Image 7
All images shown were shot with aperture f/8 and the same sharpening settings as posted by Fred above. If you need to see any other apertures just let me know (wide open until f/11 are available).
At the moment I have no idea what to do.
a) Return the lens and try another one.
b) Forget about 15mm and just get the Batis 18mm.
c) Send the lens to Voigtländer for some adjustments.
Difficult decision.
Boris
Apr 27, 2016 at 01:29 PM
p.13 #13Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
Fred Miranda wrote:
He is not selling it but if he changes his mind, I'm first in line!
I believe he had a price of $500 before but there was no taker since everybody was anticipating the FE version to be as good, if not better. I actually considered his but I don't like the chopped petal hood since I don't use filter anymore.
AGeoJO wrote
Fred, are you buying Choppy from Guy? I see you listed the 15mm ZEI believe he had a price of $500 before but there was no taker since everybody was anticipating the FE version to be as good, if not better
. I actually considered his but I don't like the chopped petal hood since I don't use filter anymore.Apr 27, 2016 at 01:37 PM
p.13 #14Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
while the apparent fact that the minority of these lenses have great corner performance, i'm still trying to remain optimistic that either a) i'll get a good one b) i won't CARE that i don't have the best corner performance
generally nothing of importance will be in the extreme corners, and if i create an impactful enough photo, people won't pixel peep at the corners and notice.
generally stuff won't be viewed at 1:1 anyway, and since this will primarily be a landscape lens, it's generally going to be sky in the upper corners
Edited on Apr 27, 2016 at 01:46 PM · View previous versions
generally nothing of importance will be in the extreme corners, and if i create an impactful enough photo, people won't pixel peep at the corners and notice.
generally stuff won't be viewed at 1:1 anyway, and since this will primarily be a landscape lens, it's generally going to be sky in the upper corners
Edited on Apr 27, 2016 at 01:46 PM · View previous versions
Apr 27, 2016 at 01:45 PM
p.13 #15Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
Bobu wrote:
Today I received my E-mount Voigtländer 15mm lens. Sadly it looks like Fred's lens or even worse in the corners.
Boris
Wow Boris, my M-version of this lens performs a lot better (also on the A7RII) than this! You should definitely return it.
Today I received my E-mount Voigtländer 15mm lens. Sadly it looks like Fred's lens or even worse in the corners.
Boris
Wow Boris, my M-version of this lens performs a lot better (also on the A7RII) than this! You should definitely return it.
Apr 27, 2016 at 01:46 PM
p.13 #16Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
Nothing is more frustrated than a mush corner in landscape shot once you nail everything else down with money invested for traveling to the location.
ruffellprefley wrote:
while the apparent fact that the minority of these lenses have great corner performance, i'm still trying to remain optimistic that either a) i'll get a good one b) i won't CARE that i don't have the best corner performance
generally nothing of importance will be in the extreme corners, and if i create an impactful enough photo, people won't pixel peep at the corners and notice.
generally stuff won't be viewed at 1:1 anyway, and since this will primarily be a landscape lens, it's generally going to be sky in the upper corners
ruffellprefley wrote:
while the apparent fact that the minority of these lenses have great corner performance, i'm still trying to remain optimistic that either a) i'll get a good one b) i won't CARE that i don't have the best corner performance
generally nothing of importance will be in the extreme corners, and if i create an impactful enough photo, people won't pixel peep at the corners and notice.
generally stuff won't be viewed at 1:1 anyway, and since this will primarily be a landscape lens, it's generally going to be sky in the upper corners
Apr 27, 2016 at 01:51 PM
p.13 #17Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
Bobu wrote:
At the moment I have no idea what to do.
a) Return the lens and try another one.
b) Forget about 15mm and just get the Batis 18mm.
c) Send the lens to Voigtländer for some adjustments.
Difficult decision.
Boris
Returning for another seems not a particularly promising (unless you bought several). I'm interested in C; I'm wondering if sending the bad ones to Voigtlander could get us all into Choppy territory...
At the moment I have no idea what to do.
a) Return the lens and try another one.
b) Forget about 15mm and just get the Batis 18mm.
c) Send the lens to Voigtländer for some adjustments.
Difficult decision.
Boris
Returning for another seems not a particularly promising (unless you bought several). I'm interested in C; I'm wondering if sending the bad ones to Voigtlander could get us all into Choppy territory...
Apr 27, 2016 at 01:52 PM
p.13 #18Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
Jochenb wrote:
BorisWow Boris, my M-version of this lens performs a lot better (also on the A7RII) than this! You should definitely return it.
I will definitely not keep it. The question is: would Voigtländer be able (and willing) to adjust this lens for corner sharpness if I would send it to Voigtländer instead of returning it. I would trust Zeiss to do this with a lens with bad performance, but I'm not so sure about Voigtländer.
Boris
Bobu wrote
Today I received my E-mount Voigtländer 15mm lens. Sadly it looks like Fred's lens or even worse in the corners.Boris
I will definitely not keep it. The question is: would Voigtländer be able (and willing) to adjust this lens for corner sharpness if I would send it to Voigtländer instead of returning it. I would trust Zeiss to do this with a lens with bad performance, but I'm not so sure about Voigtländer.
Boris
Apr 27, 2016 at 01:52 PM
p.13 #19Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
zhangyue wrote:
Nothing is more frustrated than a mush corner in landscape shot once you nail everything else down with money invested for traveling to the location.
I guess it depends on how "mush" it is. I wouldn't be generally upset by the samples that Fred has provided, but the more recent samples by Bobu I would tend to agree with you.
and also what comparable lenses are available in a similar price point with similar size and weight.
Nothing is more frustrated than a mush corner in landscape shot once you nail everything else down with money invested for traveling to the location.
I guess it depends on how "mush" it is. I wouldn't be generally upset by the samples that Fred has provided, but the more recent samples by Bobu I would tend to agree with you.
and also what comparable lenses are available in a similar price point with similar size and weight.
Apr 27, 2016 at 01:53 PM
p.13 #20Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
I'm standing with body guards at my mailbox now. Lol
Apr 27, 2016 at 01:56 PM