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p.1 #1 · Real World 80D vs 7D2 High ISO...


I will post examples from 3200, 6400 and 12800. Both with Chroma NR off and with default Chroma NR in LR.

EDIT: These are 100% crops so the 80D will appear more magnified. I added a second 6400 example where the cropping of the 80D was less to match the framing of the 7D2 but then both were output at 1400 px wide.





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Apr 10, 2016 at 11:09 PM
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p.1 #2 · Real World 80D vs 7D2 High ISO...


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p.1 #3 · Real World 80D vs 7D2 High ISO...


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Apr 10, 2016 at 11:09 PM
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p.1 #4 · Real World 80D vs 7D2 High ISO...


and how far are you cropping in?

-Mark



Apr 10, 2016 at 11:27 PM
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p.1 #5 · Real World 80D vs 7D2 High ISO...


Ziffl3 wrote:
and how far are you cropping in?

-Mark


These are 100% crops. Cropped to 1400 pixels wide in LR and then exported at 1400 wide.

I will add one example where the 80D isn't 100% cropped but then downsized to 1400












Apr 10, 2016 at 11:31 PM
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p.1 #6 · Real World 80D vs 7D2 High ISO...


Unless my eyes deceive me the 7D2 shows less chroma noise. Look at the patterns on this feather in the first shot. Almost like banding. The 80D does not show that. I still prefer the 7D2 at this point.

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Apr 11, 2016 at 12:19 AM
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p.1 #7 · Real World 80D vs 7D2 High ISO...


Based on these samples I would say the 7D is showing a better high ISO results with the difference between the 7D -80D growing larger as the ISO increases

Still have not seen anything about the 80D that is making me think about switching from the 7D2

P.s..... Thanks for the research!

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Apr 11, 2016 at 12:52 AM
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p.1 #8 · Real World 80D vs 7D2 High ISO...


Canon's way better!

Actually, they look pretty comparable. Since I already own a 7d2, other canon bodies and a plethora of lenses, I guess I'll sit tight. Interesting comparison though.



Apr 11, 2016 at 12:53 AM
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p.1 #9 · Real World 80D vs 7D2 High ISO...


To my eyes too the 7D2 looks cleaner.


Apr 11, 2016 at 12:54 AM
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p.1 #10 · Real World 80D vs 7D2 High ISO...


I at least hoped 80D would show a lot less chroma, since 1DXII has lowered chroma a lot and I suspected it was going to be a feature of all the new Canon sensors. I'll definitely be waiting to see what the D500 can offer. Also would need to know things done like how the AF of the 80D and 7DII compare in longer bursts in AI servo, how they acquire lock on as contrast drops etc.


Apr 11, 2016 at 01:06 AM
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p.1 #11 · Real World 80D vs 7D2 High ISO...


Thanks for taking the time to do this Geoff

My observation:
It looks like the 80D renders brighter, thus the 7DII looks to have more contrast (definition) So the 80 will not look as defined as the 7D



Apr 11, 2016 at 02:20 AM
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p.1 #12 · Real World 80D vs 7D2 High ISO...


I prefer the 7dII outcome. Really makes me wonder if the 1dxII on a test like this is going to make a significant difference.


Apr 11, 2016 at 02:59 AM
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p.1 #13 · Real World 80D vs 7D2 High ISO...


Thanks for posting these; very significant advantage for 7D2 IMHO especially above 3200 ISO.

However, especially the 6400 ISO shot from 80D looks like something went wrong, a bit like camera shake or focus problem? So I wonder if we are seeing just the result of different sensors or if there are other factors involved.



Apr 11, 2016 at 03:19 AM
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p.1 #14 · Real World 80D vs 7D2 High ISO...


One thing why f/16, well into diffraction softening on high pixel density APS-C. Also the 80D shots in the ISO 6400 case seem to have shake. High ISO looks a lot worse when an image is oof.


Apr 11, 2016 at 05:20 AM
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p.1 #15 · Real World 80D vs 7D2 High ISO...


Thanks for the test. I agree with Pixel Perfect regarding the f-stop, but I believe this test was mainly concerned with image noise.

Without pixel peeking and after apply noise reduction, it would be nearly impossible to tell the difference.

Beyond image quality, how is the autofocus compared to the 7D Mark II? Especially with BIF?



Apr 11, 2016 at 05:35 AM
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p.1 #16 · Real World 80D vs 7D2 High ISO...


Iv taken a preliminary peek, but I'll withhold any major judgement until I can look at it on the big screen. IPad isn't the ultimate viewing tool.


Apr 11, 2016 at 06:34 AM
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p.1 #17 · Real World 80D vs 7D2 High ISO...


Looking from my eizo monitor both are very close that you will not remember the different, they have same amount of noise but 7D2 noise grains is a bit finer, especially when chroma NR applied.

Looking from my iphone 6 plus, 7D2 is obviously do a bit better.



Apr 11, 2016 at 07:56 AM
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p.1 #18 · Real World 80D vs 7D2 High ISO...


kind of surprised by the worse looking high ISO files of the 80D

i know that this has already been shown at other tests, i.e. there is a cross over point around 1600iso, but the chroma noise seems particularly not good on the 80D given the rave reviews it seems to be getting

seems like a great introductory stills / video camera however - the smooth touch screen tracking ability seems to be the #1 feature


thanks for the post



Apr 11, 2016 at 08:27 AM
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p.1 #19 · Real World 80D vs 7D2 High ISO...


Pixel Perfect wrote:
One thing why f/16, well into diffraction softening on high pixel density APS-C. Also the 80D shots in the ISO 6400 case seem to have shake. High ISO looks a lot worse when an image is oof.


I just went for f/16 to be able to get a SS at 12800 and then kept it constant for the other shots. There are some focus issues between the images. Therefore I mainly concentrated on looking at the upper dark area that is long distance OOF background.



Apr 11, 2016 at 09:09 AM
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p.1 #20 · Real World 80D vs 7D2 High ISO...


My conclusions are that the 80D does show worse chroma noise, no doubt about that. After chroma NR I find the two cameras to be very similar and without looking at 100% crops would be impossible to tell the difference.

I know this test isn't perfect and it shouldn't be used to assess sharpness as there are some focus issues on some of the shots. I'm not sure if the focus issues would affect the perceived noise or not. I think if you look at the OOF background it shouldn't matter about the focus issues on the subject.

I still will need more time with the camera to assess AF compared to the 7D2....probably a lot more time.



Apr 11, 2016 at 09:15 AM
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