p.5 #1Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
Ok, got a few sunstars to work with CY35-70. Mostly shot at f/16, A7 II. I have an unflocked adapter and got a lot of flare with it. Need to break out the black fuzzy fabric you sent me, Fred. I still have some left.
p.5 #3Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
Looks nice Michelle. I'm starting to warm up to the sunstar.
I still have some flocking from that same paper you have. I do think it's important to flock the adapter to avoid unwanted reflections.
p.5 #7Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
I just got my Novoflex adapter today and it's terrific with perfect fit and alignment.
I just tested my copy of the C/Y 35-70/3.4 + adapter for decentering and it passed at all focal lengths. Got lucky!
Later on today when the lighting is less harsh, I will test it against the FE 24-70/2.8GM zoom.
p.5 #9Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
Fred Miranda wrote:
I just got my Novoflex adapter today and it's terrific with perfect fit and alignment.
I just tested my copy of the C/Y 35-70/3.4 + adapter for decentering and it passed at all focal lengths. Got lucky!
Later on today when the lighting is less harsh, I will test it against the FE 24-70/2.8GM zoom.
Waiting with bated breath: I have my eye on one on Ebay locally -- if your tests are positive I'm tempted to get one to pair with the L21 on a seven day walk in the wilderness in central Australia north of Alice Springs - where every gram of lens is a ml less of water!
p.5 #10Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
I just checked the 35mm crops from both cameras. Below are the crops for extreme edges first. Later on I will post center, mid-field and other focal lengths.
Both were shot at infinity and lighting was very similar. Both lenses are good copies with no decentering.
There is no contest before f/8 where the GM at 35mm dominates at the extreme edges. However, starting at f/8, the C/Y 35-70/3.4 impressed me. Field curvature is very minimal at this focal length for both lenses, although the Contax has slightly more inwards curvature.
This is an extreme corner comparison BUT pay attention to the right side of the crops away from the very edges....The Contax is noticeably better on that area starting at f/8. If I was shooting landscapes with the Zeiss zoom I would only set it to f/8 or smaller. I still need to evaluate how much going from f/8 to f/11 deteriorates micro-contrast in the center area though.
PS: The Contax shows more CA at the edges but it's instantly removed with LR's LaCA removal tool.
p.5 #13Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
Fred Miranda wrote:
I just checked the 35mm crops from both cameras. Below are the crops for extreme edges first. Later on I will post center, mid-field and other focal lengths.
Both were shot at infinity and lighting was very similar. Both lenses are good copies with no decentering.
There is no contest before f/8 where the GM at 35mm dominates at the extreme edges. However, starting at f/8, the C/Y 35-70/3.4 impressed me. Field curvature is very minimal at this focal length for both lenses, although the Contax has slightly more inwards curvature.
This is an extreme corner comparison BUT pay attention to the right side of the crops away from the very edges....The Contax is noticeably better on that area starting at f/8. If I was shooting landscapes with the Zeiss zoom I would only set it to f/8 or smaller. I still need to evaluate how much going from f/8 to f/11 deteriorates micro-contrast in the center area though.
Wow. This is at 35, the weakest part of the range. My trigger finger is itchy. For tripod based landscape work, on this showing the old C/Y might be the go...
p.5 #14Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
Here are the CENTER crops are at 35mm.
It's a different story from the extreme edges as they are very similar starting at f/4. I would give the edge to the Contax zoom here because I like the colors better (warmer tones). There is a slight decrease in micro-contrast from f/8 to f/11 but nothing too noticeable. I would not hesitate shooting at f/8 or f/11 with the Contax. f/8 has slightly more micro-contrast in the center and f/11 slightly more resolution in the extreme edges.
PS: There is more haze in the background mountains for the GM crops. Ignore that section.
p.5 #15Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
I see it's night time in California: have you shot all the images, so can we expect them posted before your bedtime? (says someone stupidly worried about whether the good deal he's found on one of these will evaporate)
p.5 #16Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
The mid-field crops are also surprising.
The GM resolution is noticeably better at f/4 but starting at f/5.6, the Contax starts to compete. At f/8 and f/11 I pretty much prefer the Contax crops. (And their color)
p.5 #17Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
I'm sure he's just processing them.
Thanks for doing this Fred. I think the 35-70 is a tick better, but at my print sizes it's not going to matter. And I'd rather have one zoom that included 24-35 and AF.
p.5 #18Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
DavidBM wrote: Fred Miranda wroteI just checked the 35mm crops from both cameras. Below are the crops for extreme edges first. Later on I will post center, mid-field and other focal lengths.
Both were shot at infinity and lighting was very similar. Both lenses are good copies with no decentering.
There is no contest before f/8 where the GM at 35mm dominates at the extreme edges. However, starting at f/8, the C/Y 35-70/3.4 impressed me. Field curvature is very minimal at this focal length for both lenses, although the Contax has slightly more inwards curvature.
This is an extreme corner comparison BUT pay attention to the right side of the crops away from the very edges....The Contax is noticeably better on that area starting at f/8. If I was shooting landscapes with the Zeiss zoom I would only set it to f/8 or smaller. I still need to evaluate how much going from f/8 to f/11 deteriorates micro-contrast in the center area though.
PWow. This is at 35, the weakest part of the range. My trigger finger is itchy. For tripod based landscape work, on this showing the old C/Y might be the go...
I think I got lucky with this copy from Japan. It was described as mint but looks brand new. The good part is that it's perfectly centered and that's hard to see in a zoom through the entire range.
I feel that the GM zoom works well for everything with a longer range and fast AF. It has beautiful rendering and it's sharper at the edges at larger apertures. However, from the initial 35mm crop results, I would not hesitate using the C/Y zoom for landscape work at f/8 or smaller...Actually I may prefer it. It makes a good pair to the Loxia 21/2.8.
According to the MTF graph, 35 is indeed the weakest FL for the Contax. The GM works the opposite way; it's better at the wider range and weaker at the longer range.
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DavidBM wrote:
I see it's night time in California: have you shot all the images, so can we expect them posted before your bedtime? (says someone stupidly worried about whether the good deal he's found on one of these will evaporate)
I may post the 50mm tonight. I didn't even evaluate them yet. I honestly don't remember this lens being this good at f/8.
p.5 #20Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
To me at 50mm, the Contax starts to look better than the GM zoom at f/5.6 and smaller. At f/8 it's superb for a zoom. It could be similar to my Loxia 50/2.
I'm scared to compare it to my Loxia crops.
Color and contrast is superb. We are talking 42MP 'extreme edges' at 1:1 magnification...