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Archive 2016Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
p.16 #1Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
Did I mention 24 and 28mm. Lol
I have to say at 24mm this zoom is incredible . Love to put a Batis 25 up against it
Anyway I'm more after a 28 myself but like the Contax be fun to see the Leica on what it can do. The thing is the zoom has this all covered but be nice to have a prime setup for light weight travel stuff
I have to say at 24mm this zoom is incredible . Love to put a Batis 25 up against it
Anyway I'm more after a 28 myself but like the Contax be fun to see the Leica on what it can do. The thing is the zoom has this all covered but be nice to have a prime setup for light weight travel stuff
Apr 26, 2016 at 07:43 AM
p.16 #2Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
Here is my issue or my mental block with all this alternative stuff. My time is limited for my personal work than conflict with my work for pay. So in my mind I want the absolute best lenses to make it worth my time. Now that's me and maybe reason I bought and sold the Sony 28 3 times now, ultimately it just does not make the grade until F8 and I'm just picky I want F4 overall. This is my wall I keep hitting. Frankly it sucks but I painted myself in this corner and I can't get out if it. I know 1st world issues. I'm just really picky so best to ignore me sometimes. Lol
Apr 26, 2016 at 07:58 AM
p.16 #3Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
I have the Batis 25 and Sigma 35 Art.
I notice very little love for Sigma ?
It's a little heavy but is fantastically sharp, and it is bargain-priced
these days.
Works perfectly w the LA-EA3.
I notice very little love for Sigma ?
It's a little heavy but is fantastically sharp, and it is bargain-priced
these days.
Works perfectly w the LA-EA3.
Apr 26, 2016 at 08:04 AM
p.16 #4Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
GMPhotography wrote:
Here is my issue or my mental block with all this alternative stuff. My time is limited for my personal work than conflict with my work for pay. So in my mind I want the absolute best lenses to make it worth my time. Now that's me and maybe reason I bought and sold the Sony 28 3 times now, ultimately it just does not make the grade until F8 and I'm just picky I want F4 overall. This is my wall I keep hitting. Frankly it sucks but I painted myself in this corner and I can't get out...Show more →
We're all picky about stuff like this. It's why manufacturers keep coming out with better and better lenses and we go ga-ga over them. I have flip flopped for so many lenses and like you, bought and sold many of the same lenses over the years. I bought and sold the FE55 several times and still find that I reach for the Loxia 50 nine times out of 10. I did the same with the Canon 135/2L when I shot Canon. Think of how many times we sold a lens and then regretted it!
I don't have the pressure of making my living from photography (but wish I did) so I understand where you are. Like you said . . . 1st world problems and yet, there's a sadistic enjoyment to this 'problem', yes?
Here is my issue or my mental block with all this alternative stuff. My time is limited for my personal work than conflict with my work for pay. So in my mind I want the absolute best lenses to make it worth my time. Now that's me and maybe reason I bought and sold the Sony 28 3 times now, ultimately it just does not make the grade until F8 and I'm just picky I want F4 overall. This is my wall I keep hitting. Frankly it sucks but I painted myself in this corner and I can't get out...Show more →
We're all picky about stuff like this. It's why manufacturers keep coming out with better and better lenses and we go ga-ga over them. I have flip flopped for so many lenses and like you, bought and sold many of the same lenses over the years. I bought and sold the FE55 several times and still find that I reach for the Loxia 50 nine times out of 10. I did the same with the Canon 135/2L when I shot Canon. Think of how many times we sold a lens and then regretted it!
I don't have the pressure of making my living from photography (but wish I did) so I understand where you are. Like you said . . . 1st world problems and yet, there's a sadistic enjoyment to this 'problem', yes?
Apr 26, 2016 at 08:55 AM
p.16 #5Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
My GM 85 replacement is in. Heading to ups
Apr 26, 2016 at 09:31 AM
p.16 #6Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
The bottom line for me is I'm much more likely to shoot a landscape shot from 24-35 than 35-70. So I'd rather have one of the good 24-70s for the 24-35 range where the new 16-35s are weak and have a little less resolution in the 50-70 range. Even from 35-50 the GM zoom is just about the same as the contax.
Apr 26, 2016 at 09:40 AM
p.16 #7Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
Don't forget the Sigma 24-35 f2 a very good lens also plus far cheaper. Figure new with new adapter 1200 that saves 1000 and it tested very nicely. I have that test and Raws if folks want to check that out. Very nice option
Apr 26, 2016 at 09:53 AM
p.16 #8Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
Now it does not render like the GM or the nice bokeh either but a sharp lens
Apr 26, 2016 at 10:00 AM
p.16 #9Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
GMPhotography wrote:
Now it does not render like the GM or the nice bokeh either but a sharp lens
True, but if you want a fast 24-70 anyway. For me, I try to keep my lens choices simple. I'd much rather roll out with a good 16-35 and 24-70 then a 16-35, 24-35, and 35-70.
Anyway, like I said earlier, at the level of all of these lens, you are gonna get a minimum of 90-95% of the best results which for me is good enough. I need to focus more on the composition, lightning etc than that last 5%.
Now it does not render like the GM or the nice bokeh either but a sharp lens
True, but if you want a fast 24-70 anyway. For me, I try to keep my lens choices simple. I'd much rather roll out with a good 16-35 and 24-70 then a 16-35, 24-35, and 35-70.
Anyway, like I said earlier, at the level of all of these lens, you are gonna get a minimum of 90-95% of the best results which for me is good enough. I need to focus more on the composition, lightning etc than that last 5%.
Apr 26, 2016 at 10:22 AM
p.16 #10Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
I am torn between the Leica 35-70 f4 ROM and the Zeiss 35-70 3.4.
I read in former posts that the Zeiss should be better. When I look at the data sheets of both lenses the curves for the Leica look much better, or am I wrong.
The background of this is that I am offered both and I am not sure what would be the very best.
I would like to avoid to have to buy both and test them out against each other.
Wolfram
I read in former posts that the Zeiss should be better. When I look at the data sheets of both lenses the curves for the Leica look much better, or am I wrong.
The background of this is that I am offered both and I am not sure what would be the very best.
I would like to avoid to have to buy both and test them out against each other.
Wolfram
Apr 26, 2016 at 11:37 AM
p.16 #11Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
strohscw wrote:
I am torn between the Leica 35-70 f4 ROM and the Zeiss 35-70 3.4.
I read in former posts that the Zeiss should be better. When I look at the data sheets of both lenses the curves for the Leica look much better, or am I wrong.
The background of this is that I am offered both and I am not sure what would be the very best.
I would like to avoid to have to buy both and test them out against each other.
Wolfram
Honestly just get the CY 35-70/3.4. I paid $320 for mine in mint condition. I'm still surprised by how good this zoom is.
I purchased a CY 28/2.8 from a FM member here and he told me he has two 35-70/3.4 lenses. (One is NIB)
If anyone would like to contact him, let me know by PM. (I am not sure if he still has them or anything about pricing though)
Fred
I am torn between the Leica 35-70 f4 ROM and the Zeiss 35-70 3.4.
I read in former posts that the Zeiss should be better. When I look at the data sheets of both lenses the curves for the Leica look much better, or am I wrong.
The background of this is that I am offered both and I am not sure what would be the very best.
I would like to avoid to have to buy both and test them out against each other.
Wolfram
Honestly just get the CY 35-70/3.4. I paid $320 for mine in mint condition. I'm still surprised by how good this zoom is.
I purchased a CY 28/2.8 from a FM member here and he told me he has two 35-70/3.4 lenses. (One is NIB)
If anyone would like to contact him, let me know by PM. (I am not sure if he still has them or anything about pricing though)
Fred
Apr 26, 2016 at 11:45 AM
p.16 #12Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
Schlotkins wrote:
Anyway, like I said earlier, at the level of all of these lens, you are gonna get a minimum of 90-95% of the best results which for me is good enough. I need to focus more on the composition, lightning etc than that last 5%.
True for right now. Whenever we start shooting with 100MP sensors, things may change.
GMPhotography wrote
Now it does not render like the GM or the nice bokeh either but a sharp lensTrue for right now. Whenever we start shooting with 100MP sensors, things may change.
Apr 26, 2016 at 11:49 AM
p.16 #13Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
Thank you all for the thoughtful words. I owe a debt of gratitude to the thorough testing and scrutiny of this community. It takes quite a lot of time and effort to produce and so many benefit. Thank you all. The technical side of my work has greatly benefited due to the enthusiastic pursuit of perfection this group strives for. Beautiful shot of Yosemite, Fred. I am indeed proud of the technical technical side of my craft, and when circumstances call for big prints that hold up, I see where all that hard work (and money) went, and how the presence of that attention elevates the usefulness of the work.
Next Thursday, my organization is hosting the U.S. Secretary Sally Jewell among others for a National Monuments celebration (Mojave Trails, Sand to Snow, and Castle Mountains). As I reflect on the role of photography in the success of the monuments campaign that resulted in these areas being designated, I find myself navigating the space inside photography's great contradictions, as I'm sure many are in this digital age where so much is changing.
Fred, when I look at that image of Yosemite, I imagine my days spent as an alpine rock climber, and the obsession over everything carried, and the moments when a grizzled veteran and I would meet, hanging high on the landscape and I would marvel at the ancient, heavy, sometimes falling apart gear hanging on his or her harness and how small a part of the process it played in their over all journey. And I'm reminded by a quote from the great alpinist Mark Twight, "Strategy is beyond the techniques. Technique is beyond the tools. One. Two. Ten Thousand." I think Galen Rowell would agree with this, someone who also put a great deal of thought in his image making equipment, but also recognized that the compromises to reach image quality perfection could compromise the creation of the image. The light, fast, responsive, and very much involved in the landscape approach yielded images so full of energy and meaning that so much of the rest faded into insignificance.
This is not brought up to belittle my own study and pursuit of perfection or any other persons. It is brought up complement it and bring perspective to its importance.
Next Thursday, my organization is hosting the U.S. Secretary Sally Jewell among others for a National Monuments celebration (Mojave Trails, Sand to Snow, and Castle Mountains). As I reflect on the role of photography in the success of the monuments campaign that resulted in these areas being designated, I find myself navigating the space inside photography's great contradictions, as I'm sure many are in this digital age where so much is changing.
Fred, when I look at that image of Yosemite, I imagine my days spent as an alpine rock climber, and the obsession over everything carried, and the moments when a grizzled veteran and I would meet, hanging high on the landscape and I would marvel at the ancient, heavy, sometimes falling apart gear hanging on his or her harness and how small a part of the process it played in their over all journey. And I'm reminded by a quote from the great alpinist Mark Twight, "Strategy is beyond the techniques. Technique is beyond the tools. One. Two. Ten Thousand." I think Galen Rowell would agree with this, someone who also put a great deal of thought in his image making equipment, but also recognized that the compromises to reach image quality perfection could compromise the creation of the image. The light, fast, responsive, and very much involved in the landscape approach yielded images so full of energy and meaning that so much of the rest faded into insignificance.
This is not brought up to belittle my own study and pursuit of perfection or any other persons. It is brought up complement it and bring perspective to its importance.
Apr 26, 2016 at 12:52 PM
p.16 #14Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
Fred Miranda wrote:
I read in former posts that the Zeiss should be better. When I look at the data sheets of both lenses the curves for the Leica look much better, or am I wrong.
The background of this is that I am offered both and I am not sure what would be the very best.
I would like to avoid to have to buy both and test them out against each other.
WolframHonestly just get the CY 35-70/3.4. I paid $320 for mine in mint condition. I'm still surprised by how good this zoom is.
I purchased a CY 28/2.8 from a FM member here and he told me he has two 35-70/3.4 lenses. (One is NIB)
If anyone would like to contact him, let me know by PM. (I am not sure if he still has them or anything about pricing though)
Fred
Damn, I over paid . . . ($360!) and don't forget macro mode on the Zeiss 35-70/3.4. This one was handheld.
strohscw wrote
I am torn between the Leica 35-70 f4 ROM and the Zeiss 35-70 3.4.I read in former posts that the Zeiss should be better. When I look at the data sheets of both lenses the curves for the Leica look much better, or am I wrong.
The background of this is that I am offered both and I am not sure what would be the very best.
I would like to avoid to have to buy both and test them out against each other.
Wolfram
I purchased a CY 28/2.8 from a FM member here and he told me he has two 35-70/3.4 lenses. (One is NIB)
If anyone would like to contact him, let me know by PM. (I am not sure if he still has them or anything about pricing though)
Fred
Damn, I over paid . . . ($360!) and don't forget macro mode on the Zeiss 35-70/3.4. This one was handheld.
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Apr 26, 2016 at 01:33 PM
p.16 #15Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
Fred, did You flock the Novoflex adapter for the C/Y lenses?
Wolfram
Wolfram
Apr 26, 2016 at 02:03 PM
p.16 #16Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
This is to mess with Guys wallet...
M240 Leica R28-90mm F8 around 28-35mm. 12000 feet Cusco Peru.
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-phTvDS2/0/X3/i-phTvDS2-X3.jpg
M240 Leica R28-90mm F8 around 28-35mm. 12000 feet Cusco Peru.
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-phTvDS2/0/X3/i-phTvDS2-X3.jpg
Apr 26, 2016 at 09:07 PM
p.16 #17Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
Yes I did. It is easy as it only needs 2 strips. Top and bottom. I will post a picture tomorrow.
strohscw wrote:
Fred, did You flock the Novoflex adapter for the C/Y lenses?
Wolfram
strohscw wrote:
Fred, did You flock the Novoflex adapter for the C/Y lenses?
Wolfram
Apr 26, 2016 at 09:37 PM
p.16 #18Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
Haha I don't think a pic like this would mess with us Sony users wallet. We have a nice 42mp camera with higher dynamic range and a gigantic selection of zeiss lenses at a quarter of the price
.Andrew Gough wrote:
This is to mess with Guys wallet...
M240 Leica R28-90mm F8 around 28-35mm. 12000 feet Cusco Peru.
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-phTvDS2/0/X3/i-phTvDS2-X3.jpg
Apr 26, 2016 at 09:42 PM
p.16 #19Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
Well, I also own an A7RII, two A7sII's plus others, so I do also have experience with Sony. But its about the lens and trust me it smokes any Contax zoom, and yes, I own all of those too.
The joys of being a crusty old photog...
Guy, has been down the Leica crack path, he'll understand.
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The joys of being a crusty old photog...
Guy, has been down the Leica crack path, he'll understand.
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Apr 26, 2016 at 09:58 PM
p.16 #20Contax 35-70 vs 24-70 GM? Ultimate landscape lens?
Jack Thompson wrote:
Next Thursday, my organization is hosting the U.S. Secretary Sally Jewell among others for a National Monuments celebration (Mojave Trails, Sand to Snow, and Castle Mountains). As I reflect on the role of photography in the success of the monuments campaign that resulted in these areas being designated, I find myself navigating the space inside photography's great contradictions, as I'm sure many are in this digital age where so much is changing.
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I think Galen Rowell would agree with this, someone who also put a great deal of thought in his image making equipment, but also recognized that the compromises...Show more →
I'm pretty sure that if Galen were alive today, he'd be pushing Nikon to release a decent mirrorless body with excellent battery life, and two tiny but jewel-like lenses in 21-24 and 85-100 equivalents.
And thank you and your organization for any of the help/push to create the new national monuments.
Next Thursday, my organization is hosting the U.S. Secretary Sally Jewell among others for a National Monuments celebration (Mojave Trails, Sand to Snow, and Castle Mountains). As I reflect on the role of photography in the success of the monuments campaign that resulted in these areas being designated, I find myself navigating the space inside photography's great contradictions, as I'm sure many are in this digital age where so much is changing.
...
I think Galen Rowell would agree with this, someone who also put a great deal of thought in his image making equipment, but also recognized that the compromises...Show more →
I'm pretty sure that if Galen were alive today, he'd be pushing Nikon to release a decent mirrorless body with excellent battery life, and two tiny but jewel-like lenses in 21-24 and 85-100 equivalents.
And thank you and your organization for any of the help/push to create the new national monuments.
Apr 26, 2016 at 10:08 PM