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p.2 #190mm MF Alt for A7?
Voigtlander 90/3.5 SL? It's very sharp, has very nice bokeh (in spite of the moderate aperture), and it's quite compact and light. With the provided dedicated diopter, it allows almost 1:1 macro. I have a Canon EOS mount SL II copy, but there's also an M-mount version, although I'm not sure this version allows the same extreme magnification.
Feb 07, 2016 at 11:41 AM
p.2 #290mm MF Alt for A7?
naturephoto1 wrote:
i have both the Leica M 90mm f2.5 Summarit and the Leica R 100mm f2.8 Apo-Macro-Elmarit lenses. The R 100mm f2.8 Apo-Macro-Elmarit is the more versatile lens and certainly sharper close up and quite possibly even at distance when stopped down a little. But, it is at the price of size, weight, and cost. It is a stellar performing lens.
When I want to carry as smaller, lighter, more compact lens I opt for and more often carry my M 90mm Summarit lens. It is quite sharp, light, small, and performs exceedingly well on my A7r. It may not be quite...Show more →
I am considering the 90 Summarit, too. I would use it on my M6 for film and on my A7R. But since I rarely shoot tele, I wait with this investment. Higher priority were wide angle lens coverage for my usage (12, 21, 35 mm FLs) - this with 50 mm, and I am pretty much set for > 90% of my shots.
i have both the Leica M 90mm f2.5 Summarit and the Leica R 100mm f2.8 Apo-Macro-Elmarit lenses. The R 100mm f2.8 Apo-Macro-Elmarit is the more versatile lens and certainly sharper close up and quite possibly even at distance when stopped down a little. But, it is at the price of size, weight, and cost. It is a stellar performing lens.
When I want to carry as smaller, lighter, more compact lens I opt for and more often carry my M 90mm Summarit lens. It is quite sharp, light, small, and performs exceedingly well on my A7r. It may not be quite...Show more →
I am considering the 90 Summarit, too. I would use it on my M6 for film and on my A7R. But since I rarely shoot tele, I wait with this investment. Higher priority were wide angle lens coverage for my usage (12, 21, 35 mm FLs) - this with 50 mm, and I am pretty much set for > 90% of my shots.
Feb 07, 2016 at 11:43 AM
p.2 #390mm MF Alt for A7?
I had the CV 90/3.5 in LTM and it was very good. Really nice and compact. Now I use the Leica 90/2 pre-Asph and really enjoy the rending (not so much the size and weight).
Both produce very nice pictures. Depends if you want the speed or the portability.
Both produce very nice pictures. Depends if you want the speed or the portability.
Feb 07, 2016 at 11:49 AM
p.2 #490mm MF Alt for A7?
Love my CV 90/3.5 SL-II. Stopped down to f/8-11 I don't see an advantage of my ZF100/2 over the CV90 for compressed landscapes. Bokeh and transitions are nicer with the Zeiss for mid distance stuff. CV is awesome close-up, plus you get the diopter. CV has very well controlled CA from wide open, and is quite sharp across the frame. Stopping down gives a bit more contrast, otherwise I only stop down for DOF control or in brighter light so I don't overexpose.
Feb 07, 2016 at 03:50 PM
p.2 #590mm MF Alt for A7?
My advice is the CY 85/1.4 Planar. Super bokeh while sharp @1.4. 2nd choice the G90 if size matters much, very small and super sharp lens (but less bokeh hurrays)
CY85/1.4
IMG_8610 1280 by Wilhelm Frank - Stockholm, on Flickr
CY85/1.4
IMG_8610 1280 by Wilhelm Frank - Stockholm, on FlickrFeb 07, 2016 at 04:15 PM
p.2 #690mm MF Alt for A7?
I have this FL heavily covered with alt primes since we all know that one prime can't do it all. 
CZ P100 C/Y: fast, no linear distortion, medium contrast, heavy; CZ S100 C/Y: slower, lighter; CZ SP100 C/Y: even slower, tilt/shift, bellows required; Leitz Elmarit M ver1: great build and handling, lousy bokeh; Leitz Elmar M: slower, great build and handling, medium contrast, great bokeh, cheap. I am missing two other lenses, namely the Leica Apo-Elmarit-R 100 and the Elmarit-R 90. Of course, the CZ S85 C/Y is always a good choice. Pick your tradeoffs.
CZ P100 C/Y: fast, no linear distortion, medium contrast, heavy; CZ S100 C/Y: slower, lighter; CZ SP100 C/Y: even slower, tilt/shift, bellows required; Leitz Elmarit M ver1: great build and handling, lousy bokeh; Leitz Elmar M: slower, great build and handling, medium contrast, great bokeh, cheap. I am missing two other lenses, namely the Leica Apo-Elmarit-R 100 and the Elmarit-R 90. Of course, the CZ S85 C/Y is always a good choice. Pick your tradeoffs.Feb 08, 2016 at 11:39 AM
p.2 #790mm MF Alt for A7?
waterden wrote:
Leica Elmarit-M 90/2.8 is a superlative lens. The sliding hood is very nice too. Easy to find and relatively inexpensive by any standards because it was very popular and lots were made. Bitingly sharp. For portraits, the slightly more expensive (used) Summicron M 90/2 (pre APO) might be preferred.
I would also vote in favour of the Elmarit-M - I previously had a Canon FD 100 F/2, which was bigger and heavier - it possibly gave better overall sharpness when stopped down to F/8, but F/2.8 the Elmarit is way ahead of the Canon, despite being wide open, and the small size of the Elmarit-M makes it a brilliant hiking combo on the A7RII.
Leica Elmarit-M 90/2.8 is a superlative lens. The sliding hood is very nice too. Easy to find and relatively inexpensive by any standards because it was very popular and lots were made. Bitingly sharp. For portraits, the slightly more expensive (used) Summicron M 90/2 (pre APO) might be preferred.
I would also vote in favour of the Elmarit-M - I previously had a Canon FD 100 F/2, which was bigger and heavier - it possibly gave better overall sharpness when stopped down to F/8, but F/2.8 the Elmarit is way ahead of the Canon, despite being wide open, and the small size of the Elmarit-M makes it a brilliant hiking combo on the A7RII.
Feb 08, 2016 at 04:09 PM
p.2 #890mm MF Alt for A7?
I had the Zeiss 100/2 MP for Canon, but sold it and kept the Leica 90/2 apo. The Leica is considerably lighter and smaller and I have not missed the Zeiss. Different strokes for different folks. There are a lot of good choices in this focal length. Comes down to priorities, including price.
Feb 08, 2016 at 04:32 PM
p.2 #990mm MF Alt for A7?
For a 100mm preference guy, the extra 10-15mm is a factor. Every single measure shows the CY 100/3.5 as better than the companion 85mm. Bokeh is luscious and there is more of it, of course, -> better separation. But it's the field flatness wide open that marks this one out, gives you both excellent corners with a little slowly increasing astigmatism and faithful object shaping. Apart from the unproblematic astigmatism, it sounds like a slower vsn of the 100MP. Also 3.5 at 100 is a sweet spot, and contrast is already high. Contrast levels at different spatial frequencies are well balanced, and 70% for 40 lpmm at f5.6. 280 grams, so adapted weight around 400-450 grams.
Feb 08, 2016 at 06:22 PM
p.2 #1090mm MF Alt for A7?
I'm loving my Topcor R 90/3.5, and my Leica M 90AA, I wouldn't mind getting the CV90 APO.
Feb 08, 2016 at 11:44 PM
p.2 #1190mm MF Alt for A7?
uscmatt99 wrote:
Love my CV 90/3.5 SL-II. Stopped down to f/8-11 I don't see an advantage of my ZF100/2 over the CV90 for compressed landscapes. Bokeh and transitions are nicer with the Zeiss for mid distance stuff. CV is awesome close-up, plus you get the diopter. CV has very well controlled CA from wide open, and is quite sharp across the frame. Stopping down gives a bit more contrast, otherwise I only stop down for DOF control or in brighter light so I don't overexpose.
...and I've been looking for one for over a year, Pentax or Nikon, and not one has appeared on eBay UK or EU!
I'll keep waiting and hoping.
Love my CV 90/3.5 SL-II. Stopped down to f/8-11 I don't see an advantage of my ZF100/2 over the CV90 for compressed landscapes. Bokeh and transitions are nicer with the Zeiss for mid distance stuff. CV is awesome close-up, plus you get the diopter. CV has very well controlled CA from wide open, and is quite sharp across the frame. Stopping down gives a bit more contrast, otherwise I only stop down for DOF control or in brighter light so I don't overexpose.
...and I've been looking for one for over a year, Pentax or Nikon, and not one has appeared on eBay UK or EU!
I'll keep waiting and hoping.
Feb 14, 2016 at 09:04 AM
p.2 #1290mm MF Alt for A7?
LightShow wrote:
I'm loving my Topcor R 90/3.5, and my Leica M 90AA, I wouldn't mind getting the CV90 APO.
All Topcor lenses are rare over here, I've never seen the 90/3.5
I'm loving my Topcor R 90/3.5, and my Leica M 90AA, I wouldn't mind getting the CV90 APO.
All Topcor lenses are rare over here, I've never seen the 90/3.5
Feb 14, 2016 at 09:05 AM
p.2 #1390mm MF Alt for A7?
retrofocus wrote:
Canon 90/2.8 TSE lens. Works very well on the A7 series and allows you tilt/shift when needed.
A lens I'd love, but it needs a "smart" EF-FE adapter just to work the aperture! Thinking about one (i.e. "drooling") opens a whole can of worms (i.e. cost, weight, size)
Canon 90/2.8 TSE lens. Works very well on the A7 series and allows you tilt/shift when needed.
A lens I'd love, but it needs a "smart" EF-FE adapter just to work the aperture! Thinking about one (i.e. "drooling") opens a whole can of worms (i.e. cost, weight, size)
Feb 14, 2016 at 09:15 AM
p.2 #1490mm MF Alt for A7?
timballic wrote:
A lens I'd love, but it needs a "smart" EF-FE adapter just to work the aperture! Thinking about one (i.e. "drooling") opens a whole can of worms (i.e. cost, weight, size)
Size-wise, any EF/E-mount adapter will be sort of a debit. I am using the Metabones III adapter (older version).
retrofocus wrote
Canon 90/2.8 TSE lens. Works very well on the A7 series and allows you tilt/shift when needed.Size-wise, any EF/E-mount adapter will be sort of a debit. I am using the Metabones III adapter (older version).
Feb 14, 2016 at 10:23 AM
p.2 #1590mm MF Alt for A7?
LightShow wrote:
I'm loving my Topcor R 90/3.5, and my Leica M 90AA, I wouldn't mind getting the CV90 APO.
I have the CV90 APO Lanthar LTM and its a very sharp and light lens. Extremely sharp for landscape/architecture and gives pleasing vivid colors. It does not have the buttery bokeh of a fast lens but then again its not bad - especially near min focus.
I'm loving my Topcor R 90/3.5, and my Leica M 90AA, I wouldn't mind getting the CV90 APO.
I have the CV90 APO Lanthar LTM and its a very sharp and light lens. Extremely sharp for landscape/architecture and gives pleasing vivid colors. It does not have the buttery bokeh of a fast lens but then again its not bad - especially near min focus.
Feb 14, 2016 at 10:41 AM
p.2 #1690mm MF Alt for A7?
timballic wrote:
...and I've been looking for one for over a year, Pentax or Nikon, and not one has appeared on eBay UK or EU!
I'll keep waiting and hoping.
It's was discontinued a few years ago for some reason, although the rest of the SLII line is still in production.
I was very lucky and got one at half price when Robert White were selling off the discontinued stock.
uscmatt99 wrote
Love my CV 90/3.5 SL-II. Stopped down to f/8-11 I don't see an advantage of my ZF100/2 over the CV90 for compressed landscapes. Bokeh and transitions are nicer with the Zeiss for mid distance stuff. CV is awesome close-up, plus you get the diopter. CV has very well controlled CA from wide open, and is quite sharp across the frame. Stopping down gives a bit more contrast, otherwise I only stop down for DOF control or in brighter light so I don't overexpose.I'll keep waiting and hoping.
It's was discontinued a few years ago for some reason, although the rest of the SLII line is still in production.
I was very lucky and got one at half price when Robert White were selling off the discontinued stock.
Feb 14, 2016 at 02:57 PM
p.2 #1790mm MF Alt for A7?
timballic wrote:
...and I've been looking for one for over a year, Pentax or Nikon, and not one has appeared on eBay UK or EU!
I'll keep waiting and hoping.
You can often find one from Japan; eBay has an SLI with a K-mount listed at $438/£301.
LTM versions can usually be had second hand from KEH, who presently list two,
uscmatt99 wrote
Love my CV 90/3.5 SL-II. Stopped down to f/8-11 I don't see an advantage of my ZF100/2 over the CV90 for compressed landscapes. Bokeh and transitions are nicer with the Zeiss for mid distance stuff. CV is awesome close-up, plus you get the diopter. CV has very well controlled CA from wide open, and is quite sharp across the frame. Stopping down gives a bit more contrast, otherwise I only stop down for DOF control or in brighter light so I don't overexpose.I'll keep waiting and hoping.
You can often find one from Japan; eBay has an SLI with a K-mount listed at $438/£301.
LTM versions can usually be had second hand from KEH, who presently list two,
Feb 14, 2016 at 05:59 PM
p.2 #1890mm MF Alt for A7?
Another vote for CY 85 2.8, I like consistency across my lenses and the CY lens line up in the "standards" works for me re size, weight, performance and price point but as others have said, it depends what's important to you, it's all a trade space. By the sounds of it maybe stick with what you know, we're spoiled for choice around this mid tele FL, lots of nice lenses on offer, good luck with your selection.
Feb 14, 2016 at 06:58 PM
p.2 #1990mm MF Alt for A7?
timballic wrote:
All Topcor lenses are rare over here, I've never seen the 90/3.5
It's not very common, the LTM is even more rare, they are out there, Kevin's cameras had 3 R 90/3.5's at one point, but I don't like dealing with him.
The lens, I think is nice, I'll be keeping it for a long time, the CV90 is probably very similar.
LightShow wrote
I'm loving my Topcor R 90/3.5, and my Leica M 90AA, I wouldn't mind getting the CV90 APO.It's not very common, the LTM is even more rare, they are out there, Kevin's cameras had 3 R 90/3.5's at one point, but I don't like dealing with him.
The lens, I think is nice, I'll be keeping it for a long time, the CV90 is probably very similar.
Feb 15, 2016 at 10:41 AM
p.2 #2090mm MF Alt for A7?
Personally, I am still very impressed by the Contax 3.5/100: http://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-zeiss-sonnar-t-100mm-f3-5-cy/
I have no direct comparison, but lenses without any major flaws are pretty rare and I think the 3.5/100 belongs to that category. I'd still be very excited to get the 2.8/85. The Sony Version is a steal although it should have worse coatings.
Second vote goes to the Bokina 2.5/90 if you can live with the slightly lower contrast compared to other lenses.
Other lenses to consider could be the Olympus 2.0/90 and 2.0/100, Canon FD 2.0/100 and Nikkor 1.8/2.5 105mm.
I have no direct comparison, but lenses without any major flaws are pretty rare and I think the 3.5/100 belongs to that category. I'd still be very excited to get the 2.8/85. The Sony Version is a steal although it should have worse coatings.
Second vote goes to the Bokina 2.5/90 if you can live with the slightly lower contrast compared to other lenses.
Other lenses to consider could be the Olympus 2.0/90 and 2.0/100, Canon FD 2.0/100 and Nikkor 1.8/2.5 105mm.
Feb 15, 2016 at 11:15 AM