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Romy, very nice heron and egret......sufficient sharpness, beautiful colours and bokeh and all that. However, in situations like this we also showcase our photographic skills, and not just gears alone. I've never seen you post an average photo, let alone a poor one, regardless of the gears you used, for all those years that I have known you. I guess, that is just the way it is.

You are probably enjoying the freedom of handheld shooting with 400 DO II now ?



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Nov 09, 2015 at 08:07 AM
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p.2 #2 · A brief user review of the 400 DO II's strap mount :)


Super shots Petkal.


Nov 09, 2015 at 12:14 PM
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lowa2 wrote:
Super shots Petkal.


Thank you much, but I should trim back on those shots because they were meant for Romy's eyes first and foremost, and I do not want to upstage his pictures either.....after all, he's had a lens a few days only, while I've sat on it for over a year now.



Nov 09, 2015 at 01:17 PM
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PetKal wrote:
Romy, very nice heron and egret......sufficient sharpness, beautiful colours and bokeh and all that. However, in situations like this we also showcase our photographic skills, and not just gears alone. I've never seen you post an average photo, let alone a poor one, regardless of the gears you used, for all those years that I have known you. I guess, that is just the way it is.

You are probably enjoying the freedom of handheld shooting with 400 DO II now ?

Here's one 400 DO II shot of my little buddy.


That's a bokehlicious 5-star image, Pete! Among the first tests I did with my DO was to shoot busy scenes with challenging lighting to see if the bokeh of the lens has some unpleasant surprises. I'm glad the quality of the OOF areas was at least as good as the big whites I've used.

Thanks for the kind words, much appreciated.

For years, I've tied myself to mostly tripod-shooting because of the long lengths that were needed to fill the frame with BIFs. Thanks to DO tech, I can now have my reach, sharpness and AF speed, and hand hold it too. This opens up a whole, new range of birding opportunities for me.



Nov 09, 2015 at 05:23 PM
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PetKal wrote:
Thank you much, but I should trim back on those shots because they were meant for Romy's eyes first and foremost, and I do not want to upstage his pictures either.....after all, he's had a lens a few days only, while I've sat on it for over a year now.


Looks like I missed some eye candies due to PPDS (Petkal Photos Disappearance Syndrome). Common, Pete..... put them back up, let's see how really great is the 400 DO II in the hands of someone who knows how to shoot it effectively.




Nov 09, 2015 at 05:26 PM
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Nov 09, 2015 at 06:11 PM
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Quality. Quality. Quality.

These are eye-popping images, thanks for putting them back on, Pete. The first one - with its AF-challenging incoming trajectory and open beak - is the stuff that I can only dream of seeing in person, much less being able to capture.

You are indeed the SuperDOteleMaster, Pete!




Nov 09, 2015 at 06:34 PM
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Thank you Romy, you are too kind.
I find owls in frontal attack flight to be the easiest birds to photograph. My in-focus rate is typically from 70 to 80%, which surprised me at first even though I had suspected something fairly high like that (1DsMkII and 1DX cameras, lenses f/4 or faster.)

On Red tail hawk frontal attack, my in-focus rate is about 20%.

Now, on pigeons in frontal attack flight, my in-focus rate is 5% at best.



Nov 09, 2015 at 07:05 PM
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Posting more images as I find time to PP them. This one, I had to crop to a 1920x1080 format to fit the flight pose of the bird.


Great Egret (Egretta alba)

Shooting Info - Sto. Tomas, La Union, Philippines, November 7, 2015, EOS 7D MII + EF 400 DO IS II + EF 1.4x TC III, 560 mm, f/7.1, 1/2000 sec, ISO 320, manual exposure in available light, hand held.

http://www.pbase.com/liquidstone/image/161814246/original.jpg





Nov 09, 2015 at 09:21 PM
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OT: I did some MFA job on the following gear combination:

1. 7D MII
2. 400 DO II
3. 400 2.8 IS
4. 1.4x III
5. 2x III
6. 1.4x II
7. 2x II

I necessarily had to do some serious pixel-peeping to fine tune the focus of various combinations of the above. My findings: (1) the 7D2 recognizes/distinguishes the II and III TCs individually, hence I can do a unique MFA for each one; and (2) there's virtually very little or no IQ difference between my II and III TCs.



Nov 09, 2015 at 09:24 PM
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Liquidstone wrote:
Posting more images as I find time to PP them. This one, I had to crop to a 1920x1080 format to fit the flight pose of the bird.



Romy, that Egret rocks....excellent, which means a number of important things have fallen into place: the bird attitude caught, exposure, background, framing, etc. ...it's all there.
Framing of BIFs is like a grammar of our native tongue speech: we should be able to do it right without even thinking about it, i.e., instinctively.

Lastly, few people seem to understand that the lens performance is just one of many building blocks which make a photograph. Obviously, there is also the operator's capture skill, the light available, post processing and presentation techniques, camera performance, luck, opportunity, etc. etc. Therefore, pictures like yours tell more about your overall skill and opportunity, than about the lens you happen to have on the camera.



Nov 09, 2015 at 09:45 PM
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PetKal wrote:
Romy, that Egret rocks....excellent, which means a number of important things have fallen into place: the bird attitude caught, exposure, background, framing, etc. ...it's all there.
Framing of BIFs is like a grammar of our native tongue speech: we should be able to do it right without even thinking about it, i.e., instinctively.

Lastly, few people seem to understand that the lens performance is just one of many building blocks which make a photograph. Obviously, there is also the operator's capture skill, the light available, post processing and presentation techniques, camera performance, luck, opportunity, etc. etc. Therefore, pictures like yours tell
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Thanks again, Pete... very well said on the things that come into play in making an image.

For BIFs, indeed, the camera + lens should become an extension of the shooter, much like the way a long club gives a golfer a longer arc and faster swing at the club head. A longer combo is tougher to wield, but when used effectively will get more information density (frame filling shots).

Exposure settings (manually set because of varying range of plumage tonality vs BG) should be quickly set on the fly without looking at the EV meter, and target acquisition/tracking should be instinctive, deeply etched in muscle memory.

When the gear is mastered and the technique is well practiced and becomes second nature, then a nice subject, some good light and a pleasing environment complete the capture equation. Learning the behavior of the subject and going out very often increase the chances of success in the capture stage. Still, the image workflow doesn't stop there.... one still has to PP the capture competently to maximize the impressiveness index of the image for viewers (tough to do this last part if one is color-blind, with 5-decade old eyes needing reading glasses).

BIF shooting sounds difficult, but that's what makes it so much enjoyable for me, especially if the image is commented on favorably by a mastershooter like the SuperDOteleMaster.



Nov 10, 2015 at 05:51 PM
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Here's another wide open shot of an incoming egret - I was lucky the AF sensor (all points on) decided to lock onto the head/neck/shoulder area, as the DOF is quite narrow. I believe this happened because that relatively steady part of the bird is giving out a stronger, uninterrupted signature to the AF sensor, compared to the equally bright but flapping wings, and to the dark tarsi.


Great Egret (Egretta alba)

Shooting Info - Sto. Tomas, La Union, Philippines, November 7, 2015, EOS 7D MII + EF 400 DO IS II + EF 1.4x TC III, 560 mm, f/5.6, 1/2000 sec, ISO 320, manual exposure in available light, hand held, major crop resized to 1500 x 1000.

http://www.pbase.com/liquidstone/image/161817670/original.jpg



Nov 10, 2015 at 06:03 PM
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p.2 #14 · A brief user review of the 400 DO II's strap mount :)


All the bigger lenses should come with those straps mounts.


Nov 10, 2015 at 07:09 PM
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Here's a raptor captured earlier this afternoon in golden light.

Brahminy Kite (Haliastur indus, immature)

Habitat - Open areas often near water, and also in mountains to 1500 m.

Shooting Info - Sto. Tomas, La Union, Philippines, November 11, 2015, EOS 7D MII + EF 400 DO IS II + EF 1.4x TC III, 560 mm, f/6.3, 1/2000 sec, ISO 400, manual exposure in available light, hand held, near full frame resized to 1500 x 1000.

http://www.pbase.com/liquidstone/image/161825708/original.jpg



Nov 11, 2015 at 06:51 AM
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p.2 #16 · A brief user review of the 400 DO II's strap mount :)


This is an odd camera-lens setup: Rebel T6s + 400 DO II.
One wouldn't expect the Rebel to be able to focus on a frontal attack hawk in flight, but it did in this case and two more, out of some 20 shots fired @ 5 FPS. That just goes to show that BIF could be shot with just about any camera, 7DMkII included, however, the in-focus rate and keeper rate would tell the true capability of the camera, while a few in-focus keepers can not.

However, I shot the same pijun with my ultimate BIF setup, and the difference shows although the light was bad and it began to rain: 1DX + 400 f/2.8 IS MkII.




T6s + 400 DO II






1DX + 400 f/2.8 IS MkII



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Nov 26, 2015 at 10:18 PM
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p.2 #17 · A brief user review of the 400 DO II's strap mount :)


Liquidstone wrote:
Here's another wide open shot of an incoming egret - I was lucky the AF sensor (all points on) decided to lock onto the head/neck/shoulder area, as the DOF is quite narrow. I believe this happened because that relatively steady part of the bird is giving out a stronger, uninterrupted signature to the AF sensor, compared to the equally bright but flapping wings, and to the dark tarsi.



I like that shot a lot, Romy. Head-on egrets and herons in flight are very hard to focus on properly because their head frontal cross section presented to the AF sensors is very small.



Nov 26, 2015 at 10:23 PM
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PetKal wrote:
This is an odd camera-lens setup: Rebel T6s + 400 DO II.
One wouldn't expect the Rebel to be able to focus on a frontal attack hawk in flight, but it did in this case and two more, out of some 20 shots fired @ 5 FPS. That just goes to show that BIF could be shot with just about any camera, 7DMkII included, however, the in-focus rate and keeper rate would tell the true capability of the camera, while a few in-focus keepers can not.

However, I shot the same pijun with my ultimate BIF setup, and the difference shows although
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Both eye-popping images, Pete. Excellent AF job on the first, love the effect of the raindrops in the second. The 400/2.8 does melt the BG in a more pleasing manner in these shots.

Indeed, a master chef can whip up a good dish whether using a skillet atop three rocks over burning wood, or in a state-of-the-art kitchen.



Nov 27, 2015 at 12:59 AM
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