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p.36 #1Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
I think my seal looks pretty similar Guy....
-Tim
GMPhotography wrote:
Tim here is mine off the camera
-Tim
GMPhotography wrote:
Tim here is mine off the camera
Feb 10, 2016 at 06:52 PM
p.36 #2Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Thanks Tim. The lens seemed great today shooting
Feb 10, 2016 at 07:22 PM
p.36 #3Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Some shots from today. I have to say...moving the aperture ring without moving focus with gloves is tough. Otherwise...great quality for sure.
http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/indianrun_winter.jpg
http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/indianrun_above.jpg
http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/indianrun_cascade.jpg
http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/indianrun_bend.jpg
http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/indianrun_winter.jpg
http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/indianrun_above.jpg
http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/indianrun_cascade.jpg
http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/indianrun_bend.jpg
Feb 10, 2016 at 07:23 PM
p.36 #4Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Jman13 wrote:
Some shots from today. I have to say...moving the aperture ring without moving focus with gloves is tough. Otherwise...great quality for sure.
http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/indianrun_winter.jpg
http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/indianrun_above.jpg
http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/indianrun_cascade.jpg
http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/indianrun_bend.jpg
I definitely agree with you Jordan. I pretty much need to remove a glove to adjust aperture but focusing with gloves is not an issue. On my way home from work, I decided to go to the roof of the parking garage for a quick look at a nightscape. While the composition is nothing special, the image quality is outstanding! Love the stars this lens makes. And the clarity and sharpness in this scene is outstanding.
Some shots from today. I have to say...moving the aperture ring without moving focus with gloves is tough. Otherwise...great quality for sure.
http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/indianrun_winter.jpg
http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/indianrun_above.jpg
http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/indianrun_cascade.jpg
http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/indianrun_bend.jpg
I definitely agree with you Jordan. I pretty much need to remove a glove to adjust aperture but focusing with gloves is not an issue. On my way home from work, I decided to go to the roof of the parking garage for a quick look at a nightscape. While the composition is nothing special, the image quality is outstanding! Love the stars this lens makes. And the clarity and sharpness in this scene is outstanding.
Feb 11, 2016 at 05:52 AM
p.36 #5Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Optically, it's quite special. There's real punch to the images, and fine detail goes all the way to the corners stopped down. Color response is outstanding. I actually slightly backed down one of these, and no added saturation was done to any of them. The sharpness in the center 80% isn't really any better than my FE 16-35, but the edge resolution is definitely better. Makes me almost want to return my 16-35 for this...but I know the added versatility fits my shooting better. Still, I've only shot with it for two days and I already really like this lens.
http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/columbus_snow_river.jpg
http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/columbus_snow_loxia-1.jpg
http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/columbus_snow_flags.jpg
http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/columbus_snow_river.jpg
http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/columbus_snow_loxia-1.jpg
http://www.jordansteele.com/2016/columbus_snow_flags.jpg
Feb 11, 2016 at 07:18 AM
p.36 #7Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Guys, tone it down please! I'm getting the lust to sell my FE 16-35 and get this, but I'm not even sure it would be a wise move. 
Feb 11, 2016 at 07:33 AM
p.36 #8Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Well the zoom is nice but it's not this lens. Size weight IQ= best buy
Feb 11, 2016 at 07:37 AM
p.36 #9Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
I agree that the Loxia is the superior optic, and I love the size. Still, for me the 16-35 makes more sense. It's still very good optically and the extra width and versatility are more important for my shooting. Still...this Loxia is beautiful. Need to compare against my Fuji 14/2.8.
GMPhotography wrote:
Well the zoom is nice but it's not this lens. Size weight IQ= best buy
GMPhotography wrote:
Well the zoom is nice but it's not this lens. Size weight IQ= best buy
Feb 11, 2016 at 08:21 AM
p.36 #10Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Jman13 wrote:
I agree that the Loxia is the superior optic, and I love the size. Still, for me the 16-35 makes more sense. It's still very good optically and the extra width and versatility are more important for my shooting. Still...this Loxia is beautiful. Need to compare against my Fuji 14/2.8.
I'm with Guy . . . so far this lens is outstanding. I feel like color rendition is much better on this lens than the 16-35/4. At the same time, I won't part with either. They both have their place.
I agree that the Loxia is the superior optic, and I love the size. Still, for me the 16-35 makes more sense. It's still very good optically and the extra width and versatility are more important for my shooting. Still...this Loxia is beautiful. Need to compare against my Fuji 14/2.8.
GMPhotography wrote
Well the zoom is nice but it's not this lens. Size weight IQ= best buyI'm with Guy . . . so far this lens is outstanding. I feel like color rendition is much better on this lens than the 16-35/4. At the same time, I won't part with either. They both have their place.
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Feb 11, 2016 at 08:38 AM
p.36 #11Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
twoeye wrote:
I want mine now!
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I want mine now!
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Feb 11, 2016 at 10:44 AM
p.36 #12Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Folks try the small dealers. What I have noticed with Zeiss is they are supplying the small brick and mortar stores more than they are the bigger retail shops. I would go state to state looking for these stores. Newtonville in MA, Allens. In PA, try Glaciers in Seattle. You really just need to get on the phone. Newtonville got one so far , MINE. But they have the 35 and 50 today and each Batis. These stores don't get a lot of stock just one or two at a time so you gotta call around. Good luck this lens is worth the effort to find
Sony on the other hand tends to go to the big retailers like B&H, Adorama, Amazon, Best Buy and such
Sony on the other hand tends to go to the big retailers like B&H, Adorama, Amazon, Best Buy and such
Feb 11, 2016 at 11:03 AM
p.36 #13Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Looking really good! I'm surprised (and happy) to see the stars appear - even wide open.
Feb 11, 2016 at 12:29 PM
p.36 #14Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Gary Clennan wrote:
Looking really good! I'm surprised (and happy) to see the stars appear - even wide open.
Gary, they do, just not enough. We need a Loxia 18/1.4. Large aperture does allow stars to shine through the light pollution.
Looking really good! I'm surprised (and happy) to see the stars appear - even wide open.
Gary, they do, just not enough. We need a Loxia 18/1.4
. Large aperture does allow stars to shine through the light pollution.Feb 11, 2016 at 12:45 PM
p.36 #15Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Probably will sell my Zeiss 21 ZF2 for this lens .. looks great 
Very nice Jordan !
Very nice Jordan !
Feb 11, 2016 at 01:44 PM
p.36 #16Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Mine was bought through a friend that worked at Zeiss, not sure what the due date is
Feb 11, 2016 at 02:02 PM
p.36 #17Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
I stumbled upon an available copy. I received it today. I sold my 25 Batis for this lens, because I've always prefered 21 over 25mm and I prefer the MF experience.
Sadly, my first impression isn't that great. The 21 Loxia has a quite strong forward field curvature and stopping down more mostly pushes the DOF towards the foreground too. This makes getting distant edges sharp very hard. The 25 Batis has a MUCH flatter field (exceptional flat for a wideangle lens) and the DOF nicely extends to the background when stopping that lens down. This makes the Batis much more predictable and easier to use on a high resolution camera. I hope I won't regret this move.
Since everyone seems to love it I guess I'm just more sensitive to field curvature behavior.
To also say something positive: what's in focus looks really good. Nice color and contrast. Great starbursts. Fantastic build quality. The size and weight are perfect.
Sadly, my first impression isn't that great. The 21 Loxia has a quite strong forward field curvature and stopping down more mostly pushes the DOF towards the foreground too. This makes getting distant edges sharp very hard. The 25 Batis has a MUCH flatter field (exceptional flat for a wideangle lens) and the DOF nicely extends to the background when stopping that lens down. This makes the Batis much more predictable and easier to use on a high resolution camera. I hope I won't regret this move.
Since everyone seems to love it I guess I'm just more sensitive to field curvature behavior.
To also say something positive: what's in focus looks really good. Nice color and contrast. Great starbursts. Fantastic build quality. The size and weight are perfect.
Feb 11, 2016 at 02:18 PM
p.36 #18Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Jochenb wrote:
I stumbled upon an available copy. I received it today. I sold my 25 Batis for this lens, because I've always prefered 21 over 25mm and I prefer the MF experience.
Sadly, my first impression isn't that great. The 21 Loxia has a quite strong forward field curvature and stopping down more mostly pushes the DOF towards the foreground too. This makes getting distant edges sharp very hard. The 25 Batis has a MUCH flatter field (exceptional flat for a wideangle lens) and the DOF nicely extends to the background when stopping that lens down. This makes the Batis much...Show more →
The field curvature was one of the first things I noticed about the lens and it can be poblematic but once you get to know how it performs I have found that I can get excellent sharpness across the frame from foreground to infinity. The trick I have found is to place the focus mark just to the lefthand side of the infinity symbol and at f8 everything from around 6ft away is in sharp focus. So I wouldn't despair and once you get the feel of it I find it easy enough to get repeatably in focus shots which I can't with the focus-by-wire lenses where you never no exactly where you are on a focus scale.
I stumbled upon an available copy. I received it today. I sold my 25 Batis for this lens, because I've always prefered 21 over 25mm and I prefer the MF experience.
Sadly, my first impression isn't that great. The 21 Loxia has a quite strong forward field curvature and stopping down more mostly pushes the DOF towards the foreground too. This makes getting distant edges sharp very hard. The 25 Batis has a MUCH flatter field (exceptional flat for a wideangle lens) and the DOF nicely extends to the background when stopping that lens down. This makes the Batis much...Show more →
The field curvature was one of the first things I noticed about the lens and it can be poblematic but once you get to know how it performs I have found that I can get excellent sharpness across the frame from foreground to infinity. The trick I have found is to place the focus mark just to the lefthand side of the infinity symbol and at f8 everything from around 6ft away is in sharp focus. So I wouldn't despair and once you get the feel of it I find it easy enough to get repeatably in focus shots which I can't with the focus-by-wire lenses where you never no exactly where you are on a focus scale.
Feb 11, 2016 at 02:36 PM
p.36 #19Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Viramati wrote:
Sadly, my first impression isn't that great. The 21 Loxia has a quite strong forward field curvature and stopping down more mostly pushes the DOF towards the foreground too. This makes getting distant edges sharp very hard. The 25 Batis has a MUCH flatter field (exceptional flat for a wideangle lens) and the DOF nicely extends to the background when stopping that lens down. This makes the Batis much more predictable and easier to use on a high resolution camera. I hope I won't regret this move.
Since everyone seems to love it I guess I'm just more sensitive to field curvature behavior.
To also say something positive: what's in focus looks really good. Nice color and contrast. Great starbursts. Fantastic build quality. The size and weight are perfect.The field curvature was one of the first things I noticed about the lens and it can be poblematic but once you get to know how it performs I have found that I can get excellent sharpness across the frame from foreground to infinity. The trick I have found is to place the focus mark just to the lefthand side of the infinity symbol and at f8 everything from around 6ft away is in sharp focus. So I wouldn't despair and once you get the feel of it I find it easy enough to get repeatably in focus shots which...Show more →
Yes it's much like it's big ZE/ZF brother, but slightly more pronounced IMHO. Focusing at infinity helps for many scenes, but not when you have a clear foreground subject. In that case it's very difficult to get enough DOF to the background edges. With the Batis that's not an issue at all. You focus on the subject and get a very uniform DOF across the frame when stopping down. It's not that the behavior of the Loxia abnormal. So many wideangle lenses are this way. It's just that the Batis really spoiled me in this regard.
Jochenb wrote
I stumbled upon an available copy. I received it today. I sold my 25 Batis for this lens, because I've always prefered 21 over 25mm and I prefer the MF experience.Sadly, my first impression isn't that great. The 21 Loxia has a quite strong forward field curvature and stopping down more mostly pushes the DOF towards the foreground too. This makes getting distant edges sharp very hard. The 25 Batis has a MUCH flatter field (exceptional flat for a wideangle lens) and the DOF nicely extends to the background when stopping that lens down. This makes the Batis much more predictable and easier to use on a high resolution camera. I hope I won't regret this move.
Since everyone seems to love it I guess I'm just more sensitive to field curvature behavior.
To also say something positive: what's in focus looks really good. Nice color and contrast. Great starbursts. Fantastic build quality. The size and weight are perfect.
Yes it's much like it's big ZE/ZF brother, but slightly more pronounced IMHO. Focusing at infinity helps for many scenes, but not when you have a clear foreground subject. In that case it's very difficult to get enough DOF to the background edges. With the Batis that's not an issue at all. You focus on the subject and get a very uniform DOF across the frame when stopping down. It's not that the behavior of the Loxia abnormal. So many wideangle lenses are this way. It's just that the Batis really spoiled me in this regard.
Feb 11, 2016 at 02:59 PM
p.36 #20Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
GMPhotography wrote:
Folks try the small dealers. ... In WA, try Glaciers in Seattle. ...
Sony on the other hand tends to go to the big retailers like B&H, Adorama, Amazon, Best Buy and such
Sorry, just bought the available copy from Glazer's in Seattle after Adorama told me no more were expected until March 14th! With a trip to Yosemite in two weeks I couldn't wait.
Folks try the small dealers. ... In WA, try Glaciers in Seattle. ...
Sony on the other hand tends to go to the big retailers like B&H, Adorama, Amazon, Best Buy and such
Sorry, just bought the available copy from Glazer's in Seattle after Adorama told me no more were expected until March 14th! With a trip to Yosemite in two weeks I couldn't wait.
Feb 11, 2016 at 03:14 PM