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Archive 2015Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
p.19 #1Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
sebboh wrote:
but would you have been able to hit it manual focusing with a dslr?
Never had one
Here is a sweet f/4 shot from the Loxia 21
uhoh7 wrote
Tonite I missed a very simple shot with the CV 35/1.2 in low light because of the EVF noise.Never had one
Here is a sweet f/4 shot from the Loxia 21
Dec 15, 2015 at 11:36 PM
p.19 #2Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Viramati wrote:
try flickr and use their embed BB codehttps://farm6.staticflickr.com/5801/23667286582_495236e9ff_b.jpg
Going gently by Viramati, on Flickr
In this image viewed 1:1 I am seeing a stunning level of detail across the frame and right into the corners
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5738/23408246159_d58f25db02_b.jpg
Fire Exit by Viramati, on Flickr
I can only download a 2048px version this is most likely because of your settings. thanks
Phillip Reeve wrote
Viramati wrote
Would love to post some images but it would seem I can't without some sort of special membership statusGoing gently by Viramati, on Flickr
In this image viewed 1:1 I am seeing a stunning level of detail across the frame and right into the corners
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5738/23408246159_d58f25db02_b.jpg
Fire Exit by Viramati, on Flickr
I can only download a 2048px version this is most likely because of your settings. thanks
Dec 16, 2015 at 12:36 AM
p.19 #3Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
uhoh7 wrote:
but would you have been able to hit it manual focusing with a dslr?Never had one
Here is a sweet f/4 shot from the Loxia 21
just stick a 6 stop ND filter and a macro tube on the front of your m9's viewfinder and imagine there's no rangefinder patch to get an idea what it would be like.
sebboh wrote
uhoh7 wrote
Tonite I missed a very simple shot with the CV 35/1.2 in low light because of the EVF noise.Here is a sweet f/4 shot from the Loxia 21
just stick a 6 stop ND filter and a macro tube on the front of your m9's viewfinder and imagine there's no rangefinder patch to get an idea what it would be like.
Dec 16, 2015 at 01:09 AM
p.19 #4Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Honestly, not impressed for f/4 at 1:1. The upper RHS is noticeably less sharp than the upper LHS. The focus on that shot looks like a mess.
Dec 16, 2015 at 01:58 AM
p.19 #5Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
uhoh7 wrote:
As to WATE vs other stuff: On the Leicas it's widely considered not at the level of ZM18 or SEM18, and certainly not like the SEM21, which is the strongest UWA M lens ever made. But the WATE is very good. And obviously it's been way better than those lenses on the stock sonys.
Charlie, I fully agree with your statement above, except that I felt the Elmar 24 to be slightly better than the SEM 21. Except at 21mm of course...:-) Or could it have been down to the two lenses I tried out?
Cheers from the Grouch
As to WATE vs other stuff: On the Leicas it's widely considered not at the level of ZM18 or SEM18, and certainly not like the SEM21, which is the strongest UWA M lens ever made. But the WATE is very good. And obviously it's been way better than those lenses on the stock sonys.
Charlie, I fully agree with your statement above, except that I felt the Elmar 24 to be slightly better than the SEM 21. Except at 21mm of course...:-) Or could it have been down to the two lenses I tried out?
Cheers from the Grouch
Dec 16, 2015 at 03:03 AM
p.19 #6Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Well more testing is going to be needed which is hard in London at the moment as the light is so bad and I only managed a few shots yesterday.
As to focusing yes in some ways this is more of a pain on the UWA's manually but I find having a proper focus scale helps BUT it is a real shame that the focus throw on the lens is so short from the 2m to infinity stop with no further distance markings as this makes zone focussing of any mid distance object very difficult. On a plus note it would appear that the infinity stop is an infinity stop unlike the other Loxia's
As to focusing yes in some ways this is more of a pain on the UWA's manually but I find having a proper focus scale helps BUT it is a real shame that the focus throw on the lens is so short from the 2m to infinity stop with no further distance markings as this makes zone focussing of any mid distance object very difficult. On a plus note it would appear that the infinity stop is an infinity stop unlike the other Loxia's
Dec 16, 2015 at 03:39 AM
p.19 #7Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
According to Zeiss the Loxia 21/2.8 has a focus throw of 90 degrees compared to approximately 180 degrees for the Loxia 35/2 and 50/2 lenses. The ZM Biogon 21/2.8 has markings for 2m, 8ft, 15ft, 5m and infinity and a better focus throw.
Dec 16, 2015 at 09:15 AM
p.19 #8Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
pdmphoto wrote:
Honestly, not impressed for f/4 at 1:1. The upper RHS is noticeably less sharp than the upper LHS. The focus on that shot looks like a mess.
You are more picky than me, but that shot has alot of angles. I thought it was pretty good.
Here you can see the lens strain at 2.8
Would loved to have seen the above view at various apertures. So easy to see the performance across the frame in such a shot, but I can't find many like that. Of course I'd never use 2.8 for such a shot, but it's a good test nonetheless. I'd hope it's alot better at f/4, the SEM 21 is very strong on the edges at 3.4
Here is f/8 with focus not quite to infinity I think.
Honestly, not impressed for f/4 at 1:1. The upper RHS is noticeably less sharp than the upper LHS. The focus on that shot looks like a mess.
You are more picky than me, but that shot has alot of angles. I thought it was pretty good.
Here you can see the lens strain at 2.8
Would loved to have seen the above view at various apertures. So easy to see the performance across the frame in such a shot, but I can't find many like that. Of course I'd never use 2.8 for such a shot, but it's a good test nonetheless. I'd hope it's alot better at f/4, the SEM 21 is very strong on the edges at 3.4
Here is f/8 with focus not quite to infinity I think.
Dec 16, 2015 at 02:53 PM
p.19 #9Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
They are on the same focus plane and are the same subject matter (wire strands with lights). One stop down from wide open. Wide open MTF's show outstanding performance. f/4 should be better.
Dec 16, 2015 at 03:01 PM
p.19 #10Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Waterloo Bridge by Viramati, on Flickr
Dec 16, 2015 at 04:32 PM
p.19 #11Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
I got my Loxia 21 today. But I have a serious problem with the lens: it doesn't fit on my D800E
(My dealer told me that the lens would arrive in February therefore I had decided to wait until next year before buying the A7RII.)
(My dealer told me that the lens would arrive in February therefore I had decided to wait until next year before buying the A7RII.)
Dec 17, 2015 at 10:51 AM
p.19 #12Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Boris - anxiously awaiting your pics with the A7RII! Congrats.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:13 AM
p.19 #13Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Bobu wrote:
I got my Loxia 21 today. But I have a serious problem with the lens: it doesn't fit on my D800E
(My dealer told me that the lens would arrive in February therefore I had decided to wait until next year before buying the A7RII.)
Not even with duct tape?
I got my Loxia 21 today. But I have a serious problem with the lens: it doesn't fit on my D800E
(My dealer told me that the lens would arrive in February therefore I had decided to wait until next year before buying the A7RII.)
Not even with duct tape?
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:14 AM
p.19 #15Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Thanks Gary and Philippe!
The first serious test of this lens will be in May when I to travel again to the Lofoten for a couple of days.
On my upcoming trip in December I will take again the D800E and the 21mm ZF.2. Changing to a completely new system a couple of days before a trip is not a good idea in my opinion.
Boris
The first serious test of this lens will be in May when I to travel again to the Lofoten for a couple of days.
On my upcoming trip in December I will take again the D800E and the 21mm ZF.2. Changing to a completely new system a couple of days before a trip is not a good idea in my opinion.
Boris
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:18 PM
p.19 #16Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Nice Boris, I'll have mine too tomorrow. I didn't even preorder. My usual dealer had one copy in stock all of a sudden.
If it doesn't disappoint I'm probably selling my 25 Batis.
If it doesn't disappoint I'm probably selling my 25 Batis.
Dec 17, 2015 at 01:40 PM
p.19 #17Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Some early impressions on my blog
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Dec 17, 2015 at 04:10 PM
p.19 #18Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Jochenb wrote:
Nice Boris, I'll have mine too tomorrow. I didn't even preorder. My usual dealer had one copy in stock all of a sudden.
If it doesn't disappoint I'm probably selling my 25 Batis.
Well... you can ignore this post. The store sold my reserved copy to someone else this afternoon. I already fully paid for it and all. That's just great.
Nice Boris, I'll have mine too tomorrow. I didn't even preorder. My usual dealer had one copy in stock all of a sudden.
If it doesn't disappoint I'm probably selling my 25 Batis.
Well... you can ignore this post. The store sold my reserved copy to someone else this afternoon. I already fully paid for it and all. That's just great.
Dec 17, 2015 at 05:06 PM
p.19 #19Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Jochenb wrote:
If it doesn't disappoint I'm probably selling my 25 Batis.Well... you can ignore this post. The store sold my reserved copy to someone else this afternoon. I already fully paid for it and all. That's just great.
Ouch that just hurts.
Jochenb wrote
Nice Boris, I'll have mine too tomorrow. I didn't even preorder. My usual dealer had one copy in stock all of a sudden.If it doesn't disappoint I'm probably selling my 25 Batis.
Ouch that just hurts.
Dec 17, 2015 at 05:20 PM
p.19 #20Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Phillip Reeve wrote:
Some early impressions on my blog
Your friend Jannik has done a great job!
There was a question to your blog post about focusing the Loxia 21/2.8 between 2m and infinity. I too would like to hear more about that, if possible. How does this affect the practical use of the Loxia 21/2.8? This is the only thing that might hold me back regarding this lens.
The focusing throw from 2m to infinty is better on the Zeiss ZM Biogon 21/2.8, so I wonder why Zeiss has changed this when making an E mount lens. The same trend can be seen on the Voigtländer superwides, 15/4.5 and 12/5.6 lenses. On www.voigtlaender.de images of both the E mount and M mount versions of these two lenses are up now. I hope this will not be a trend going forward. As it is now the focus-by-wire lenses offer a longer focus throw, e.g. Zeiss Batis 25/2 and the Sony/Zeiss 16-35/4.
Some early impressions on my blog
Your friend Jannik has done a great job!
There was a question to your blog post about focusing the Loxia 21/2.8 between 2m and infinity. I too would like to hear more about that, if possible. How does this affect the practical use of the Loxia 21/2.8? This is the only thing that might hold me back regarding this lens.
The focusing throw from 2m to infinty is better on the Zeiss ZM Biogon 21/2.8, so I wonder why Zeiss has changed this when making an E mount lens. The same trend can be seen on the Voigtländer superwides, 15/4.5 and 12/5.6 lenses. On www.voigtlaender.de images of both the E mount and M mount versions of these two lenses are up now. I hope this will not be a trend going forward. As it is now the focus-by-wire lenses offer a longer focus throw, e.g. Zeiss Batis 25/2 and the Sony/Zeiss 16-35/4.
Dec 17, 2015 at 07:07 PM