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p.19 #1Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
Lee Saxon wrote:
Yeah, I'm not really sure what Zeiss was thinking. Maybe I'm totally off base. But I think anyone serious and demanding enough about their needs to be willing to carry around a ~50 the size and weight of a 180 is (a) demanding enough to also need the real Otus's APO correction and/or (b) serious enough to justify the price of the real Otus.
Then again Fuji is doing pretty well selling Leica M3 knockoffs to aspirational nostalgists and hipsters, so what do I know.
I think the real question I'd like to ask Zeiss is with all sorts of advanced...Show more →
lee, i think you are out of touch with the modern marketplace.
i may have mentioned that before though.
i wish somebody would sell a legitimate digital m3 knockoff though, that would totally tie my hipster camera collection together...
carlitos wrote
Gosh!Then again Fuji is doing pretty well selling Leica M3 knockoffs to aspirational nostalgists and hipsters, so what do I know.
I think the real question I'd like to ask Zeiss is with all sorts of advanced...Show more →
lee, i think you are out of touch with the modern marketplace.
i may have mentioned that before though.
i wish somebody would sell a legitimate digital m3 knockoff though, that would totally tie my hipster camera collection together...
Oct 08, 2015 at 12:16 AM
p.19 #2Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
One answer I can see, Lee, is that the level of performance many of us expect -nay, demand- from our lenses is ever increasing. Viewing results at 100% with a resolution that is ever greater, etc...
Oct 08, 2015 at 12:20 AM
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p.19 #3Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
fraga wrote:
The 85mm f1.4 Art will probably have the exact same optics as the current version.
Why should it? The two 50/1.4s were very different. Ditto the 30/1.4s.
The 85mm f1.4 Art will probably have the exact same optics as the current version.
Why should it? The two 50/1.4s were very different. Ditto the 30/1.4s.
Oct 08, 2015 at 03:08 AM
p.19 #4Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
Unfortunately, it looks like Zeiss is succumbing to the same thing that Nikon has. No aperture ring! I like that they have removed the chrome though. Price is too high for me.
Oct 08, 2015 at 04:47 AM
p.19 #5Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
DaveOls wrote:
Unfortunately, it looks like Zeiss is succumbing to the same thing that Nikon has. No aperture ring! I like that they have removed the chrome though. Price is too high for me.
They still have the aperture ring.
Look right above their mount.
Unfortunately, it looks like Zeiss is succumbing to the same thing that Nikon has. No aperture ring! I like that they have removed the chrome though. Price is too high for me.
They still have the aperture ring.
Look right above their mount. Oct 08, 2015 at 04:59 AM
p.19 #6Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
I must be looking at the wrong images because what you may be talking about looks like a dof display at different apertures. I may be wrong though.
Oct 08, 2015 at 05:15 AM
p.19 #7Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
A little down the page here:
http://www.zeiss.com/camera-lenses/en_de/camera_lenses/milvus/milvus2821.html
"The silent, continuous aperture setting (de-click function with ZF.2 mount) and the long focusing range lay optimal conditions for video photography."
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http://www.zeiss.com/camera-lenses/en_de/camera_lenses/milvus/milvus2821.html
"The silent, continuous aperture setting (de-click function with ZF.2 mount) and the long focusing range lay optimal conditions for video photography."
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Oct 08, 2015 at 05:20 AM
p.19 #8Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
DaveOls wrote:
I must be looking at the wrong images because what you may be talking about looks like a dof display at different apertures. I may be wrong though.
Looks to me like there's an aperture ring on the ZF.2 version.
http://www.zeiss.com/camera-lenses/en_de/camera_lenses/milvus/milvus1450.html
I must be looking at the wrong images because what you may be talking about looks like a dof display at different apertures. I may be wrong though.
Looks to me like there's an aperture ring on the ZF.2 version.
http://www.zeiss.com/camera-lenses/en_de/camera_lenses/milvus/milvus1450.html
Oct 08, 2015 at 05:21 AM
p.19 #9Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
I have the ZF2 version and the lenses have an aperture ring
Oct 08, 2015 at 06:02 AM
p.19 #10Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
Phillip, how does the new Milvus 50/1.4 handle on the A7? Isn't it too large and heavy?
Oct 08, 2015 at 06:25 AM
p.19 #11Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
You're right, there is one on the AF 2 version, but not the ZE. Is the ZE the one that works on Sony cameras?
Oct 08, 2015 at 06:25 AM
p.19 #12Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
DaveOls wrote:
You're right, there is one on the AF 2 version, but not the ZE. Is the ZE the one that works on Sony cameras?
None of them works natively on Sony cameras. Both the ZE and ZF.2 versions need an adapter. If you buy the ZE version with a smart adapter (like a Metabones) the camera controls the aperture and EXIF gets recorded. With the ZF.2 versions you just need a 'dumb' regular adapter. You control the aperture with the aperture ring on the lens and no EXIF gets recorded.
You're right, there is one on the AF 2 version, but not the ZE. Is the ZE the one that works on Sony cameras?
None of them works natively on Sony cameras. Both the ZE and ZF.2 versions need an adapter. If you buy the ZE version with a smart adapter (like a Metabones) the camera controls the aperture and EXIF gets recorded. With the ZF.2 versions you just need a 'dumb' regular adapter. You control the aperture with the aperture ring on the lens and no EXIF gets recorded.
Oct 08, 2015 at 06:39 AM
p.19 #13Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
Snopchenko wrote:
Why should it? The two 50/1.4s were very different. Ditto the 30/1.4s.
Well, because those you mention could use some improvement, so they did. Not saying they were bad, just that there was place for improvements.
The 85mm is already excelent, it even stands it's ground against the almighty 85L.
With the 120-300, this happened: the optics were so good that they remained the same.
Of course, if they can find a way to improve it, all the better!
All I'm saying is I wouldn't be surprised if they just update the build quality, AF and give it compatibility with the USB dock.
fraga wrote
The 85mm f1.4 Art will probably have the exact same optics as the current version.Well, because those you mention could use some improvement, so they did. Not saying they were bad, just that there was place for improvements.
The 85mm is already excelent, it even stands it's ground against the almighty 85L.
With the 120-300, this happened: the optics were so good that they remained the same.
Of course, if they can find a way to improve it, all the better!
All I'm saying is I wouldn't be surprised if they just update the build quality, AF and give it compatibility with the USB dock.
Oct 09, 2015 at 04:15 AM
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p.19 #14Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
fraga wrote:
Why should it? The two 50/1.4s were very different. Ditto the 30/1.4s.Well, because those you mention could use some improvement, so they did. Not saying they were bad, just that there was place for improvements. The 85mm is already excelent, it even stands it's ground against the almighty 85L. With the 120-300, this happened: the optics were so good that they remained the same.
Of course, if they can find a way to improve it, all the better!
All I'm saying is I wouldn't be surprised if they just update the build quality, AF and give it compatibility with the USB dock.
Fair enough. Though not all reviewers were enthusiastic about border quality of the 85/1.4 (a non-issue with the 50/1.4 A). Me, I would love to have a Sigma 85 as it is; an Art version would probably add quite some price.
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fraga wrote
The 85mm f1.4 Art will probably have the exact same optics as the current version.Of course, if they can find a way to improve it, all the better!
All I'm saying is I wouldn't be surprised if they just update the build quality, AF and give it compatibility with the USB dock.
Fair enough. Though not all reviewers were enthusiastic about border quality of the 85/1.4 (a non-issue with the 50/1.4 A). Me, I would love to have a Sigma 85 as it is; an Art version would probably add quite some price.
Oct 09, 2015 at 05:10 AM
p.19 #15Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
I had one in Nikon mount and loved it. Terrific lens, amazing IQ.
Oct 09, 2015 at 06:15 AM
p.19 #16Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
Anyone get a milvus 85mm f1.4 yet?
Oct 19, 2015 at 09:34 PM
p.19 #17Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
Milvus series lenses now in stock at bh
Oct 20, 2015 at 06:24 AM
p.19 #18Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
Im wondering what's this lens' sharpness at near to medium distance wide open.
Oct 20, 2015 at 10:27 AM
p.19 #19Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
LR just tested some of the new Milvus:
http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2015/11/zeiss-milvus-optical-bench-tests
http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2015/11/zeiss-milvus-optical-bench-tests
Nov 09, 2015 at 02:19 PM
p.19 #20Zeiss Milvus are out: new range of DSLR lenses!
Is it possible that the Milvus 50/1.4 doesn't beat the Sigma 50/1.4 Art? 
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I simply don't like the Sigma and I can't afford the OTUS, but I wanted something really sharp outside the center, with nice, creamy Bokeh.. (I have the 50/1.4 C/Y which is identical to the ZE-version afaik)
f/1.4 to f/2.8 is important, anything else doesn't matter to me.
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I simply don't like the Sigma and I can't afford the OTUS, but I wanted something really sharp outside the center, with nice, creamy Bokeh.. (I have the 50/1.4 C/Y which is identical to the ZE-version afaik)
f/1.4 to f/2.8 is important, anything else doesn't matter to me.
Nov 09, 2015 at 03:31 PM