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Pixphatic wrote:



Give it a last try....

I am an admirer of the lens.....infact shifted camp for this one....

https://i.imgur.com/tDfu9pi.jpg
(D7100+200-500)

Thanks...




Very nice capture and thank you all for the suggestions. I'm on the fence about trying another one....I'll sleep on it for a couple of days and then make the call. I enjoyed the flexibility of the zoom and from what I've seen you all do with the lens had my hopes high my copy would be a sharp one. Sadly... it was not. I think Steve Perry mentioned in one of his videos it wasn't until the 3rd lens he was happy with the sharpness. The 300 pf and 500pf are appealing as well... size/weight/ sharpness and faster autofocus. But... you zoom with your feet (not a big deal as I've shot mainly primes over the years) it's just something I need to take into consideration.

Thanks again for the help....keep posting the great shots.

Hatch



Nov 25, 2018 at 06:31 PM
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Nov 25, 2018 at 09:48 PM
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Fred Amico wrote:
Grebes


Fantastic shot!



Nov 26, 2018 at 11:08 AM
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p.167 #4 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


_DSC2950_openWith by leon kirkbride, on Flickr

_DSC2922_openWith by leon kirkbride, on Flickr



Dec 01, 2018 at 06:03 PM
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p.167 #5 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


multibit wrote:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4831/31196776177_655279e75b_k.jpg_DSC2950_openWith by leon kirkbride, on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4809/31196772277_13ae4f2f36_k.jpg_DSC2922_openWith by leon kirkbride, on Flickr


Insane (in a good way)



Dec 01, 2018 at 10:10 PM
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p.167 #6 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


nuclearjock wrote:
Insane (in a good way)


Thanks



Dec 02, 2018 at 02:44 AM
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p.167 #7 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


D500, f/5.6, 1/250, 500 mm, ISO 1100

common goldeneye by Christian Hunold, on Flickr



Dec 10, 2018 at 10:25 AM
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p.167 #8 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


hatch1921 wrote:
Thank you Lara for suggesting I give ViewNX-I a try to show the focal points and where the lens was
/is hitting. Going over the photos...my technique isn't all that great but I also don't believe the focal point was landing where it was. I know in a number of shots... I had the point on the bird. Many of the shots were of a stationary bird.

The last shot is what I'm seeing a lot of....

Even the ones where I'm on the bird/target... the images are very soft..

Thanks again Lara.

Hatch

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4810/44206740090_292d130175_o.png2018-11-23_2113 by hatch1921, on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4808/32151527178_b3f9c85447_o.png2018-11-23_2114 by hatch1921, on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4853/45298119464_abcdc065f7_h.jpg2018-11-23_2115 by hatch1921,
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Lara, does your copy of the lens show the same sort of "glowing" like highlights (residual spherical aberrations, to my eye) if you shoot it under different more subdued light, or if you stop the lens down half a stop? I don't have the exif, nor know how much of a crop that is, but it is the look you get from the old DC soft focus 105 and 135 lenses, with the de-focus set to a high or moderate value. I would notice it on some shots, mostly under the sort of lighting exactly as in your photos, and it would increase and decrease within the same set of photos under the exact same settings. After a lot of testing I concluded that any missed focus showed it much stronger. One has to understand the focusing in SLR's is not exact from one time to another. That is one reason a lot of wildlife or sports photographers use back button focus, always set to continual focus, and fire off a burst as a habit, even for stationary subjects. You will find in a set of five shots, all with the focus point right one a contrasty part of the subject, that there will be focus variances, and the burst should give you one or two perfectly sharp shots.

Some lenses exhibit this as well, not by design, and I find that my copy of the 200-500 is what I would call very sharp, for the fact that it is a zoom with a large focal length range. But as some have pointed out, the 200-500 does have know downsides. Very close to it's max range of 500 and wide open, at infinity, and in my experience, under light conditions with a lot of spectral highlights and lots of contrast - it looks a bit like what you are seeing.

You examples posted however are more than I'm used to. That could be sample variation, or technique. Try going half a stop down. That half a stop makes a substantial difference. Another thing to consider is the atmosphere. One a day with sunshine like that, a lit up portion of ground in front of your subject will create a haze or a shimmer. I don't see direct evidence in your example shots, but it can all add up. I don't have almost any experience shooting birds or wildlife, but I used to shoot a lot of motorsports and the black asphalt can really interfere with IQ all the way from where it's obvious that it's the air between you and the subject, to more subtle degradations that are harder to pin point the culprit or culprits in.

The 200-500 is an amazing lens, especially considering the price. I'm certainly finding it harder to get up to speed with compared to the 300 f 2.8 for example. Good luck.

Note: At the point I wrote this I had not noticed your later tests and thoughts. I was just going to trash the comment before posting, but what the heck, perhaps it may help in some way. I always find it takes me longer to figure out zooms than primes, and have always preferred primes until this zoom came along. I did get a good copy, at least I'm very happy about it, but the 500 end wide open - is not perfect. On the other hand, 450 or so seems to not exhibit any of this, and that is a LOT longer a focal length than the 300. And teleconverters always have a drop in IQ and focus speeds. If I were in your shoes, I'd try another copy or three. That versatility and a constant aperture are sweet.



Dec 11, 2018 at 05:33 AM
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p.167 #9 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


I don't think of the 200-500 as a "pano" lens, but the raging sea this morning got me browsing through my LR files and I came across this one...

_DSC3365-Pano.jpg by David Hamments, on Flickr

Cheers and good light,
David



Dec 15, 2018 at 05:17 PM
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p.167 #10 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


Did somebody say 200-550 and pano?
I am with you David

3x3 array at 500mm on D610

DSC_1210-Pano: Comrie, Scotland by Colin McIntosh, on Flickr

Colin



Dec 17, 2018 at 06:34 PM
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Hi everyone. I've been using 200-500 for two years, I think this lens is good for photos to close subjects (and sometimes also for far subject) but many times, with far subjects, the lens produces soft images ...in my opinion heat haze is a big issue, but sometimes the lens produce soft image also without heat haze... what do you think?

very soft images cause heat haze:


this day it wasn't hot bat the snout of the animal isn't sharp :


sometimes, however, the image appears sharper than other occasions, even using the same settings, why?



this is more soft, taken after 10", uhm:




all picture taken with D610



Dec 18, 2018 at 08:13 PM
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Nordavind,

In order for you to ascertain if your lens has an issue (e.g. inaccurate focus point) then you would need to perform a series of controlled images using a tripod.

I also shoot with a D610 but try to keep the ISO below 400 whenever possible. Heat haze is less of a problem in the UK. For sure we had a spectacular summer this year but I have not experienced the horrible, slushy images depicted in your truck shots. What ISO were they taken at?

The beauty of this lens is the fact one can hand hold at 500mm with VR on. Looking at my LR catalogue I have a lot of shots at 500mm and shutter speeds in the 1/125s - 1/320s range.

Here is a ~50% crop of a cow @ 1/320s, f/5.6, 500mm, ISO 200, handheld, VR on.

DSC_1171 by Colin McIntosh, on Flickr

Similarly a 50% crop of a fast moving Typhoon jet @ 1/2000s, f/8, 500mm, ISO 400, handheld, VR on.

DSC_1361: RAF Typhoon on exercise flying through Kirkstone Pass by Colin McIntosh, on Flickr

This 27% crop of a Spitfire was captured at @ 1/1250s, f/6.3, 500mm, ISO 400, handheld, VR on.

DSC_0935: The Grace Spitfire at Highclere Castle Battle Prom by Colin McIntosh, on Flickr

To me these are perfectly acceptable for a modestly priced consumer zoom.

As an aside: I also use a 180/2.8 manual focus telephoto lens. I am often disappointed with the results when I see the images back home on my computer. Sometimes they are superb and show the capabilities of the the ED glass. With no tripod or VR to help me then my camera technique, for a given ISO/Shutter-speed/aperture, is always to blame.

Cheers,

Colin






Dec 19, 2018 at 03:13 PM
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p.167 #13 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


Pilots. Crappy lens, all ~70% crop.






















Dec 19, 2018 at 10:51 PM
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p.167 #14 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


nuclearjock wrote:
Pilots. Crappy lens, all ~70% crop.


Crappy in that you can make out tack sharp rivets (plus their shadows) and probably the colour of the pilots' eye if they were not wearing shades.

Not forgetting the aircraft are probably moving at 80-100mph (landing?)
Nice shots.




Dec 20, 2018 at 03:24 AM
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Nordavind wrote:
Hi everyone. I've been using 200-500 for two years, I think this lens is good for photos to close subjects (and sometimes also for far subject) but many times, with far subjects, the lens produces soft images ...in my opinion heat haze is a big issue, but sometimes the lens produce soft image also without heat haze... what do you think?

very soft images cause heat haze:
http://arcturus4.altervista.org/200500_1.jpg
http://arcturus4.altervista.org/200500_5.jpg
this day it wasn't hot bat the snout of the animal isn't sharp :
http://arcturus4.altervista.org/200500_6.jpg

sometimes, however, the image appears sharper than other occasions, even using the same settings, why?

http://arcturus4.altervista.org/200500_3.jpg

this is more soft, taken after 10", uhm:

http://arcturus4.altervista.org/200500_4.jpg

all
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You could be miss focusing. Perhaps try do an AF fine tune at the aperture you most commonly shoot at.
There is a small focus shift backwards on my lens at every interval from f5.6 to f/8. It's enough to ruin some shots.
I did an AFFT on my D810 initially for f/6.3 or f/7.1, and that has worked well enough. But I need to test this lens more extensively with my D850 and examine just how much focus shift there is.

This one looks back focused.


On another subject, atmospheric conditions can ruin sharpness and contrast, and it can also cause the camera to focus inconsistently with long focal lengths. I think there are far more experienced shooters that can chime in here regarding this subject.



Dec 20, 2018 at 04:19 AM
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p.167 #16 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


Sunrise walk out on the Wayfarer's Walk, UK

DSC_2907 by Colin McIntosh, on Flickr

Colin



Dec 22, 2018 at 11:52 AM
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p.167 #17 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


_DSC3957_openWith-1 by leon kirkbride, on Flickr

_DSC4128_openWith-1 by leon kirkbride, on Flickr



Dec 22, 2018 at 07:38 PM
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p.167 #18 · Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR


D800 @ 480mm
https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Misc/i-LvDrCFN/0/8445562b/X2/misc_311-X2.jpg



Dec 22, 2018 at 08:46 PM
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A few from my first trip to Bosque del Apache a couple days after Christmas.


Predawn Flight


Morning Flight


Alight

More later when I continue working through the remaining images. :-)



Dec 31, 2018 at 07:26 PM
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