p.3 #1 · 7dII vs 5DIII can you tell the difference?
timgangloff wrote:
I was going to say what CanadaMark said. Truthfully, I downloaded your images from this post and none of the image look in focus. OOF images and high ISO are a bad combination and although these look OK at web resolution, I suspect something is wrong with the capture process or the processing. At ISO 6400, I would like to be able to see some eyelash detail as that is one thing I look at. Another is can I see thread detail on the shoes or uniforms. I can't in your images, but that could be due to the fact that you reduced them in size for web viewing, but even then I think they should be at least somewhat visible. A better comparison would be to get some sharp images at those ISOs and compare them.
And ditto about the newer CF speeds. They are very fast, will download to your computer much faster and with the time savings, you can shoot raw and fix the high iso noise better. ...Show more →
A number of people have been reporting AF issues with the 7D2, so I'd probably want to rule that out first as well with some controlled testing under mixed lighting.
p.3 #2 · 7dII vs 5DIII can you tell the difference?
I would think 1/640s would be fast enough to stop action at the middle school level, but I see motion blur in some of my HS B-ball images at 1/1000s. I'd prefer to use an even faster ss but it's just not an option with the lighting. Some of the blur is due to panning during the shot, as B-ball has me swinging the camera around while I shoot. That's hard to avoid completely but it adds to the blur regardless. It's a balancing act and some photos will be less sharp even if the AF is doing its job just fine.
p.3 #3 · 7dII vs 5DIII can you tell the difference?
Here is what I mean about detail in eyes. This is a raw image taken at ISO 5000 with 5d3 and 70-200 2.8 IS II - I could not quickly find one at 6400. This is a 100% crop of the full image. But still you can see lash detail.
The raw photo had all sharpening and noise sliders set to 0, and was exported out as a jpeg.
p.3 #4 · 7dII vs 5DIII can you tell the difference?
NCAndy wrote:
I would think 1/640s would be fast enough to stop action at the middle school level, but I see motion blur in some of my HS B-ball images at 1/1000s. I'd prefer to use an even faster ss but it's just not an option with the lighting. Some of the blur is due to panning during the shot, as B-ball has me swinging the camera around while I shoot. That's hard to avoid completely but it adds to the blur regardless. It's a balancing act and some photos will be less sharp even if the AF is doing its job just fine. ...Show more →
The sample looks OOF (front of back focused) rather than blurred by movement. It also doesn't look like the subject was running or moving particularly quickly. There's no real smearing and the subject looks like he is standing still.
p.3 #5 · 7dII vs 5DIII can you tell the difference?
He was running across the gym. I don't shoot alot of BB but even in what ive shot I've had lots of shots with motion blur at1/640th. Especially Their hands. I don't feel I can up the ss any more for the lighting.
p.3 #6 · 7dII vs 5DIII can you tell the difference?
I shoot high school basketball for my son and his friends. The BEST i have ever gotten was 1/640 f2.8 and ISO 6400. I also have both the 7D Mk2 and the 5D mark3. The combination that works best for me as I stand behind the basket at the baseline is the 24-70 2.8 Mk II and use the 7Dmk2. Typically the shots are 1/500 f2.8 ISO 8000-12000. I use case 2 tracking with some adjustments made. I have tried the 70-200 2.8IS MkII and the 85 1.8.
The 5DMk3 was just way to slow drive speed for me. Keepers are still far and few between and I have microfocused all my lens. Motion blur, AF, panning, my motion and my mistakes all affect the images
p.3 #7 · 7dII vs 5DIII can you tell the difference?
If we had to produce an image for the cover of SI from the HS gym then it better have supplemental lighting. I just reviewed my last couple games and while I prefer to hold a min of 1/1000s I shot most of the game at 8000 ISO, f2.8 and 1/800. I had to push the exposure about another 0.5 stop in LR. I can see motion blur from the various sources in many photos, especially after cropping. But at web size or sharpened for newsprint, they work ok. Probably wouldn't hold up to making a poster though. lol
I tend to prefer my images not look too dark or like they were shot in a cave. So maybe someone else would be comfortable at a lower ISO, etc. I've included an example, cropped to about 2/3 of the total image and while not critically sharp when viewed at 100%, it is sharp enough.
p.3 #10 · 7dII vs 5DIII can you tell the difference?
Kathy White wrote:
I should probably try it again. It was when the camera was just out that i tried it and learned to just shoot jpg on the CF card and remove the SD card to avoid missing shots waiting for the butter. I know I did not have cards then as fast as I do now,. I now have several of the 1000 x CF cards and I should probably try it. But, I prefer jpg for most sports that I do, and I don't shoot BB that often so it's not been an issue. Most of what I shoot is daytime outdoor football and baseball. I like to do sports posters and with the high ISO's it is just a struggle to get shots that I can blow up enough with the poor lighting in the local gyms. 3 years ago, I do know that my camera would just totally stop due to the buffer. At some point for sports, I just started using the 1000x UDMA 7 cards, and pulling the SD and shooting Jpg. Thanks for correcting me, I would like to be able to shoot raw for BB when needed and probably should have tried it and not just gone from habit. ...Show more →
It's completely worth giving it a shot. The 5D3 can be infuriatingly slow to clear the buffer if I have to switch to my backup SD card when I fill my 1066x cf card. I had no problems covering sporting events with a 1000x+ card on the 5d3 though.
