p.5 #1 · Returning my A7II, sticking with Nikon plus m4/3
There is an old saying: "horses for courses" which says that you use what works best for you in any given situation. I use my 1DSIII when I go to the ocean or the weather is rainy and crappy. I use my D800E for large good weather landscapes. I use my A7R for strenuous hikes, and my $200 Canon M for hikes that may have potential hazards, and my RX100M3 when I'm feeling too lazy to carry anything else. No brand covers all situations.
p.5 #2 · Returning my A7II, sticking with Nikon plus m4/3
I'm new to Sony A7 series as of yesterday, picked up an A7ii with Nikon metabones adapter, haven't even tried AF yet since I don't have any native glass -
So far the IQ and magnified focus and peaking and tilt screen and IBIS are all pretty awesome, been having the most fun with an old Ais 50mm 1.8, the iq is fantastic, and from a super cheap and old lens no less
The ergonomics are very uncomfortable for me though; any recommendations for a shallow grip or extension that folks with big hands like? Maybe if I had little hands it would be a different story, but I just can't believe how awkward this thing is all around. (ducks)
With all this tech packed into the body too, I'm surprised no touch screen. I don't have the cramping and discomfort with my little Nikon V3, I think the touch screen helps since it gives me access to any setting that I see on the display.
Love that Sony is pushing the envelope though - wish Nikon had some of these features
p.5 #3 · Returning my A7II, sticking with Nikon plus m4/3
Paul Gardner wrote:
No brand covers all situations.
That's so true...
For me, it came down to economics... I can no longer afford to stay current in multiple different camera systems, and had to rationalize my gear. My D810 will do everything my Sonys could conceivably do, and in most cases do it much better; on the other hand, the Sony system is extremely limited compared to Nikon (or Canon).
p.5 #4 · Returning my A7II, sticking with Nikon plus m4/3
molson wrote:
That's so true...
For me, it came down to economics... I can no longer afford to stay current in multiple different camera systems, and had to rationalize my gear. My D810 will do everything my Sonys could conceivably do, and in most cases do it much better; on the other hand, the Sony system is extremely limited compared to Nikon (or Canon).
The Sony A7 series cameras can use M mount lenses (Leica, Zeiss, Minolta, etc.), something that neither Nikon or Canon can do and the Sony A7 cameras can mount many more lenses from other makers than Nikon or Canon and with less restriction and the need for either camera or lens modification.
p.5 #5 · Returning my A7II, sticking with Nikon plus m4/3
naturephoto1 wrote:
The Sony A7 series cameras can use M mount lenses (Leica, Zeiss, Minolta, etc.), something that neither Nikon or Canon can do and the Sony A7 cameras can mount many more lenses from other makers than Nikon or Canon and with less restriction and the need for either camera or lens modification.
Rich
That's fine if you're a nostalgic gear collector, but I actually want to use my camera to take photos.
So far, I haven't found any restrictions, or the need for modifications, to use any of my Nikon-mount lenses on my D810.
p.5 #6 · Returning my A7II, sticking with Nikon plus m4/3
molson wrote:
That's fine if you're a nostalgic gear collector, but I actually want to use my camera to take photos.
So far, I haven't found any restrictions, or the need for modifications, to use any of my Nikon-mount lenses on my D810.
No,
But some of us have been using many of our lenses (like my R lenses) and many of those for 30 years. They are much easier to adapt to the Sony A7 series camera and none of them either require a change of the mount as in the case of the Nikon or any modification to these lenses or a Nikon or Canon body. And no, this is not a matter of being nostalgic. Many of these lenses are still outstanding performers and lenses such as the R 100mm Apo-Maro-Elmarit and the R 280mm f2.8 Apo Telyt lenses are some of the finest lenses in their focal lengths ever offered even today.
By the way, some of us come from a tradition of working slowly and carefully with manual focus cameras and lenses including 4" X 5" and larger cameras.
p.5 #7 · Returning my A7II, sticking with Nikon plus m4/3
thread is useful to me. I use a canon 5d3, and sony a6000. Love my sony, including AF, and with the IBIS in A7II and introduction of more lenses. have been starting to consider a complete move to Sony. I am hoping sony introduces a FF Mirrorless which has the AF at least as good a a6000.
Feb 08, 2015 at 11:42 AM
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p.5 #8 · Returning my A7II, sticking with Nikon plus m4/3
OP, I appreciated your post. It was helpful. I love to read about photography, ALL photography. However the more I read the more I realize that a huge % of people come to forums not because of their LOVE of this hobby, but because they are little girls and have constant PMS. I am at a point where I pretty much just avoid "gear talk" forums and look at pictures only.
Wouldn't it be awesome, that if you had a disagreement about a particular statement, like the OP in this thread, one could only post an opposing reply if one were to attach a picture to validate one's point?
Go out and take pictures worth something. You are on a free forum, this isn't your "house" - understand that we are all equals here. You are not better, your opinion doesn't weigh more, so the only thing left for you is to be understanding. HOW HARD CAN THAT BE? You want to be understood don't you?
Don't tell me that you're a good photographer. Don't tell me that you have an amazing camera. Show me
Amateur photographers worry about equipment. Professionals worry about money. Masters worry about light
p.5 #9 · Returning my A7II, sticking with Nikon plus m4/3
saving spaces, though I agree with the premise of your post, I have to say, the little girl with pms comment is very offensive. And that comes from a guy.
Feb 08, 2015 at 01:37 PM
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p.5 #10 · Returning my A7II, sticking with Nikon plus m4/3
kevindar wrote:
saving spaces, though I agree with the premise of your post, I have to say, the little girl with pms comment is very offensive. And that comes from a guy.
Can't be worse than how the OP has been treated by some. BTW, I am a guy too.
p.5 #11 · Returning my A7II, sticking with Nikon plus m4/3
Paul Gardner wrote:
There is an old saying: "horses for courses" which says that you use what works best for you in any given situation. I use my 1DSIII when I go to the ocean or the weather is rainy and crappy. I use my D800E for large good weather landscapes. I use my A7R for strenuous hikes, and my $200 Canon M for hikes that may have potential hazards, and my RX100M3 when I'm feeling too lazy to carry anything else. No brand covers all situations.
I agree, but not all of us can afford to run a stable, so just the one horse sometimes has to do everything. I had totally decided that would be a D810, but I keep coming back to the Sony Forum. Heart in conflict with my head.
p.5 #12 · Returning my A7II, sticking with Nikon plus m4/3
A7r is near to perfect for large landscapes, far better than any DSLR if you have to walk any distance to get to the places no one else sees; to get past the 'Ansel Adams tripod holes' locations. Same if you wish to use the best lenses for the job if they happen not to be C/N. And - how many foul weather landscapes feature in the annals of fine photography?
A DSLR won't work well: in tight spots, locations requiring discretion, cafes, street, festivals, low light with manual lenses, nor for climbing, trekking, adventure. It's a simple decision for me and going by the sales data, many more. But we all have different shooting environments and needs, and so be it.
'Horses for courses' is a good metaphor for the D800 class cameras, but a good friendly donkey would not complain unduly. The assembly of bodies, lenses and paraphernalia are indeed very heavy but not quite that heavy. FWIW, Zeiss and obviously Canon and Nikon see DSLRs continuing strongly as pro platforms, high end devices ideal for pro photography. You might agree they essentially mean commercial, sports, events, studio, and some heavy duty landscape work, and the lenses for sure reflect those pursuits, see the new Canon 11-24mm, all 1180 grams of it and largest front element ever, by the look of it.
savingspaces, you can easily check what each person has gifted the forum in the way of their work, which certainly does give you their perspective; just find a post of theirs and click 'uploads' - 3rd box from the right at the bottom of their post. Here is one for you. cheers.
D800 Carriage Service: Payment in hay please, 30 day account
Feb 08, 2015 at 07:14 PM
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p.5 #13 · Returning my A7II, sticking with Nikon plus m4/3
philip_pj wrote savingspaces, you can easily check what each person has gifted the forum in the way of their work, which certainly does give you their perspective; just find a post of theirs and click 'uploads' - 3rd box from the right at the bottom of their post. Here is one for you. cheers.
Thank you Phillip for the info, unfortunately you didn't get what I was trying to say.
Not sure what you are trying to say with that picture either, but no biggie.
p.5 #14 · Returning my A7II, sticking with Nikon plus m4/3
savingspaces, your rant is an anti gear rant in a gear centric forum. Lot of guys here value their craft and have high passion for gear.
Feb 08, 2015 at 10:05 PM
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p.5 #15 · Returning my A7II, sticking with Nikon plus m4/3
Charlie N wrote:
savingspaces, your rant is an anti gear rant in a gear centric forum. Lot of guys here value their craft and have high passion for gear.
Not sure what you are smoking, I love gear as much as you do, but bashing someone for posting his findings has NOTHING to do with gear talk.
