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Archive 2014Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
p.24 #2Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
Edward, excellent shots of my favorite Thai city of Ayutthaya!
I have so many nice shots from there on that trip when I met you that I need to print and hang. An amazing place and love the famous buddha head lodged in the tree.
Sad all the decapitated buddha statues from the attacking Burmese. Reclining buddha there is cool too.
Thanks for posting and love the new zm 35/1.4 on Leica performance!
I have so many nice shots from there on that trip when I met you that I need to print and hang. An amazing place and love the famous buddha head lodged in the tree.
Sad all the decapitated buddha statues from the attacking Burmese. Reclining buddha there is cool too.
Thanks for posting and love the new zm 35/1.4 on Leica performance!
Mar 30, 2015 at 12:35 PM
p.24 #3Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
Thank you Wayne! I'm impressed that you guessed the place and still remember all the details 
hope to see you back here again soon!
hope to see you back here again soon! Mar 30, 2015 at 08:57 PM
p.24 #4Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
edwardkaraa wrote:
Thank you Wayne! I'm impressed that you guessed the place and still remember all the details hope to see you back here again soon!
Thanks! Would love to make it back there in near future and meet up again! Such a great plsce.
Thank you Wayne! I'm impressed that you guessed the place and still remember all the details
hope to see you back here again soon! Thanks! Would love to make it back there in near future and meet up again! Such a great plsce.
Mar 31, 2015 at 02:56 AM
p.24 #5Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
Gary Clennan wrote:
This is something I am also noticing with the sample images being posted... Much different color output. Nice images Edward & Phillipe.
yeah, that's something that's always bothered me about leica files (not that i love the sony ones either) – the greens and reds are very distinctive and not in a way that looks realistic to me. meanwhile, the sony files have the unhealthy habit of making green look like some weird radioactive yellow, and i've never used a digital camera that could reliably produce accurate purples or deep saturated reds... perhaps i'm just too picky.
edwardkaraa wrote
It's really interesting how the color rendition is different between Sony and Leica with the same lens.yeah, that's something that's always bothered me about leica files (not that i love the sony ones either) – the greens and reds are very distinctive and not in a way that looks realistic to me. meanwhile, the sony files have the unhealthy habit of making green look like some weird radioactive yellow, and i've never used a digital camera that could reliably produce accurate purples or deep saturated reds... perhaps i'm just too picky.
Mar 31, 2015 at 09:47 PM
p.24 #6Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
I know exactly what you are saying Derek. Color can be such a personal thing and what some people like, others do not. The color output of Leica files is pleasing and accurate - at least to my eye (and my preference). It is not perfect but pretty close IMO. My only complaint is that the reds can get a bit hot at times and too saturated....
Mar 31, 2015 at 10:14 PM
p.24 #7Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
Well, nothing reproduces nice saturated reds like slide film. Maybe in the future with organic sensors and no bayer demosaicing, we will be close, but until now, digital still has a lot to improve in the color department.
This said, I find Leica and Sony color quite different, but both pleasing in their own way. I slightly prefer Leica though.
This said, I find Leica and Sony color quite different, but both pleasing in their own way. I slightly prefer Leica though.
Mar 31, 2015 at 10:19 PM
p.24 #8Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
No more posts on this thread? Either everyone was discouraged by various samples or perhaps the other Sony/Zeiss 1.4/35 lens makes purchasing decision much harder.
In any case, here is a push for pro or against ZM; few random images shot wide open.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC8457_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC8459_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC8458_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC8486_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC8487_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC8494_640.jpg
In any case, here is a push for pro or against ZM; few random images shot wide open.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC8457_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC8459_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC8458_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC8486_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC8487_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC8494_640.jpg
Apr 06, 2015 at 10:27 PM
p.24 #9Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
Nice shots, Jack! Another ZM shot, f:2.8. With the helicoid adapter, its ability to deliver close-up shots is very useful for me, and there are few occasions when I miss having a true macro lens in my daily bag.
Apr 06, 2015 at 11:12 PM
p.24 #10Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
DSLR Magazine ZM 35mm review on A7R & Leica-M Monochrom:
Zeiss Distagon T * 35mm f / 1.4 ZM - Performance
Zeiss Distagon T * 35mm f / 1.4 ZM - Performance
Apr 07, 2015 at 06:01 PM
p.24 #12Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
Bump!
Can't decide which I like best, colour or B&W
Can't decide which I like best, colour or B&W
Apr 09, 2015 at 08:53 PM
p.24 #13Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
Yudhi & Phillipe - wonderful images and very complementary processing!
Couple things to share regarding ZM 35D. Not sure what caused the change, but switching from CV VM-E vII to my old Photodiox and/or adding Zeiss UV filter reduced colour casting at WO to nearly none. Perhaps something else was added to the equation, but I no longer have to use CornerFix for all shots on modded A7R. Also, using lens profile in Adobe RAW converter further 'cleans' images. Your experience may vary, if so, please share on this thread.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC8500_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC8521_640.jpg
Couple things to share regarding ZM 35D. Not sure what caused the change, but switching from CV VM-E vII to my old Photodiox and/or adding Zeiss UV filter reduced colour casting at WO to nearly none. Perhaps something else was added to the equation, but I no longer have to use CornerFix for all shots on modded A7R. Also, using lens profile in Adobe RAW converter further 'cleans' images. Your experience may vary, if so, please share on this thread.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC8500_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC8521_640.jpg
Apr 09, 2015 at 11:25 PM
p.24 #14Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
Jack, I am puzzled by your mention of colour cast and fixing with CornerFix. I have yet to run into this problem, as has my forum partner. Both of us have used a ZM 35 on standard A7R without noticing it. Admittedly, we don't shoot the sky at infinity wide open, but still...
I also use two different adapters (Novoflex and Hawks' helicoid) without that making a difference.
So, as I said, I am puzzled.
I also use two different adapters (Novoflex and Hawks' helicoid) without that making a difference.
So, as I said, I am puzzled.
Apr 09, 2015 at 11:37 PM
p.24 #15Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
Philippe, I am referring to occasional colour cast when shooting WO --> 2.8 and focussing on farther located objects. Perhaps it was just colour balance issue, but maybe not. Will find some samples to share from few weeks ago when I got my ZM 35D.
In general ZM35D, comparing to Biogon 2/35 is nearly free of side colour variations.
Shot WO focussing on upper part of 'G'
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC8503_640.jpg
In general ZM35D, comparing to Biogon 2/35 is nearly free of side colour variations.
Shot WO focussing on upper part of 'G'
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC8503_640.jpg
Apr 10, 2015 at 12:15 AM
p.24 #16Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
Jack, interesting observations! I have noticed there minor variations in just using my 35 Lux FLE with different VM-E, on the A7r Mod. I would be interested if you shoot towards the sun, at angle where flare is not an issue and see whether there is more colour cast than normal.
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Apr 10, 2015 at 12:21 AM
p.24 #17Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
One thing I can say regarding the helicoid adapter is that I find it better to leave it in the "undeployed" position whenever I have a choice, rather than part deployed and part focused. i haven't tested it scientifically, but I could if needed. Could this help minimise the issue? Or could it be that the Kolari mod actually has this negative side effect? [dons flak jacket and ballistic helmet and hunkers down in rabbit warren]
Apr 10, 2015 at 12:28 AM
p.24 #18Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
ZM 35D was designed for Leica M sensor so Kolari modified A7R should deliver similar colour-coast performance (M processes it in-camera, where A7R shots to be hand-processed)
Shooting the same scene with M240 and modded A7R will still vary by in-camera PP, lens profile usage and quality of M-E adapters (not only machining tolerance, but throttle clearance as well)
I say the ZM 1.4/35D hustle is worth it, at least based on size/weight:
ZF 2/35 72mm 530g
ZF 1.4/35 120mm 830g
ZM 1.4/35 65mm 380g
FE 1.4/35 112mm 630g
Shooting the same scene with M240 and modded A7R will still vary by in-camera PP, lens profile usage and quality of M-E adapters (not only machining tolerance, but throttle clearance as well)
I say the ZM 1.4/35D hustle is worth it, at least based on size/weight:
ZF 2/35 72mm 530g
ZF 1.4/35 120mm 830g
ZM 1.4/35 65mm 380g
FE 1.4/35 112mm 630g
Apr 10, 2015 at 12:52 AM
p.24 #20Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
I did to see a good old fashioned shootout:
Leica M240 (or M9) with ZM 35/1.4
vs
Sony A7(something) with FE 35/1.4
Leica M240 (or M9) with ZM 35/1.4
vs
Sony A7(something) with FE 35/1.4
Apr 13, 2015 at 09:18 AM