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Archive 2014Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
p.19 #1Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
Nice shots Michael but what are those horizontal lines?
Mar 18, 2015 at 07:07 PM
p.19 #2Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
Gary Clennan wrote:
Nice shots Michael but what are those horizontal lines?
Power line
Mar 18, 2015 at 07:23 PM
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Mar 18, 2015 at 07:29 PM
p.19 #5Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
Got my silver copy this afternoon and took few test shots on my way from work. All images below were shot WO with the same post processing (exported to DNG during import, slight cast reduction with CornerFix, post in Photoshop and export to JPG with Adobe Pro profile)
Plan to have a quick bite and take few evening shots to post later on.
Now, so how this lens performs on Sony A7R with Kolari modified sensor stack?
Will post shots taken side by side with Zeiss Biogon 2/35 ZM at infinity later on this evening.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7853_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7855_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7834_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7848_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7862_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7873_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7837_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7859_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7866_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7871_640.jpg
Plan to have a quick bite and take few evening shots to post later on.
Now, so how this lens performs on Sony A7R with Kolari modified sensor stack?
Will post shots taken side by side with Zeiss Biogon 2/35 ZM at infinity later on this evening.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7853_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7855_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7834_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7848_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7862_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7873_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7837_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7859_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7866_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7871_640.jpg
Mar 18, 2015 at 07:51 PM
p.19 #6Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
Congrats Jack!! Looks like it performs real well on that body. It will be great to see your comparison... BTW - are those bike spokes purple or is that CA? Guess I haven't been shooting much in conditions which show this.
Guess I haven't been shooting much in conditions which show this.Mar 18, 2015 at 07:59 PM
p.19 #7Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
Biogon vs. Distagon; both images taken at f/8, minimal and identical post processing.
Distagon ZM designed for digital Leica M and most likely with sensor stack in mind clearly shows better results, at least in the corners. In upcoming days I will try to compare them both for cross frame performance to determine faith of Biogon.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7882_1600.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7885_1600.jpg
Biogon - full size
Distagon - full size
Thank you Gary!
Yes, it's CA showing around chrome finish of rims and spokes. I had no time to fix it in post, but defringing slider in Adobe RAW takes care of it in no time.
Few more shots, all WO.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7844_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7878_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7830_640.jpg
Distagon ZM designed for digital Leica M and most likely with sensor stack in mind clearly shows better results, at least in the corners. In upcoming days I will try to compare them both for cross frame performance to determine faith of Biogon.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7882_1600.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7885_1600.jpg
Biogon - full size
Distagon - full size
Thank you Gary!
Yes, it's CA showing around chrome finish of rims and spokes. I had no time to fix it in post, but defringing slider in Adobe RAW takes care of it in no time.
Few more shots, all WO.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7844_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7878_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7830_640.jpg
Mar 18, 2015 at 10:47 PM
p.19 #8Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
Great work everyone!!! Congratulations Philippe, Edward, Gary and Jack on the ZM 35/1.4 
Jack, excellent comparison with the A7rM. As I mentioned before, I never really found the ZM 35/2 to be that sharp on the corners with my M9, but it may not have been a good copy.
The ZM 35/1.4 Distogon really shines on the A7rM
Jack, excellent comparison with the A7rM. As I mentioned before, I never really found the ZM 35/2 to be that sharp on the corners with my M9, but it may not have been a good copy.
The ZM 35/1.4 Distogon really shines on the A7rM
Mar 18, 2015 at 11:04 PM
p.19 #9Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
Thank you Charles!
Biogon has indeed rolled off extreme corners regardless of camera body. It's now hardly a match for Distagon, but still, it's half size, weight and price
More from Biogon: f/1.8, f/4 and last two at f/8 on tripod.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7909_1600.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7907_1600.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7928_1600.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7926_1600.jpg
Biogon has indeed rolled off extreme corners regardless of camera body. It's now hardly a match for Distagon, but still, it's half size, weight and price
More from Biogon: f/1.8, f/4 and last two at f/8 on tripod.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7909_1600.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7907_1600.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7928_1600.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7926_1600.jpg
Mar 18, 2015 at 11:42 PM
p.19 #10Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
Thank you Jack for all the A7RM images. Congratulations!
A question: Is it sensor reflections or lens flare in the night images? I see it at a couole of high contrast places.
A question: Is it sensor reflections or lens flare in the night images? I see it at a couole of high contrast places.
Mar 19, 2015 at 12:19 AM
p.19 #11Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
Jonas,
Thank you. I believe it maybe only flaring. Since the conversion I tried shooting against sun, direct light and didn't encounter any sensor reflections, unlike on stock A7R where flaring was even visible in a viewfinder.
Focussed on the first lamp
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7913_640.jpg
Thank you. I believe it maybe only flaring. Since the conversion I tried shooting against sun, direct light and didn't encounter any sensor reflections, unlike on stock A7R where flaring was even visible in a viewfinder.
Focussed on the first lamp
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7913_640.jpg
Mar 19, 2015 at 12:41 AM
p.19 #12Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
JaKo wrote:
Biogon vs. Distagon; both images taken at f/8, minimal and identical post processing.
Distagon ZM designed for digital Leica M and most likely with sensor stack in mind clearly shows better results, at least in the corners. In upcoming days I will try to compare them both for cross frame performance to determine faith of Biogon.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7882_1600.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7885_1600.jpg
Biogon - full size
Distagon - full size
Thank you Gary!
Yes, it's CA showing around chrome finish of rims and spokes. I had no time to fix it in post, but defringing slider in Adobe RAW takes care of it in no time.
Few more shots, all WO.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7844_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7878_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7830_640.jpg
ZM 35/1.4 @f/8 is impressive! Not so convinced with the wide open shots though, sides seem soft. Amount of vignetting WO is also impressive (although easily fixable).
Biogon vs. Distagon; both images taken at f/8, minimal and identical post processing.
Distagon ZM designed for digital Leica M and most likely with sensor stack in mind clearly shows better results, at least in the corners. In upcoming days I will try to compare them both for cross frame performance to determine faith of Biogon.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7882_1600.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7885_1600.jpg
Biogon - full size
Distagon - full size
Thank you Gary!
Yes, it's CA showing around chrome finish of rims and spokes. I had no time to fix it in post, but defringing slider in Adobe RAW takes care of it in no time.
Few more shots, all WO.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7844_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7878_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7830_640.jpg
ZM 35/1.4 @f/8 is impressive! Not so convinced with the wide open shots though, sides seem soft. Amount of vignetting WO is also impressive (although easily fixable).
Mar 19, 2015 at 03:28 AM
p.19 #13Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
rscheffler wrote:
Leica now makes a close focus helicoid for M lenses, but it's expensive, of course. And naturally it's only going to work in live view with the M240.
Ron, are you talking about this one? or is there another close-focus adapter I haven't heard of?
Leica now makes a close focus helicoid for M lenses, but it's expensive, of course. And naturally it's only going to work in live view with the M240.
Ron, are you talking about this one? or is there another close-focus adapter I haven't heard of?
Mar 19, 2015 at 05:15 AM
p.19 #14Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
JaKo wrote:
Biogon vs. Distagon; both images taken at f/8, minimal and identical post processing.
Distagon ZM designed for digital Leica M and most likely with sensor stack in mind clearly shows better results, at least in the corners. In upcoming days I will try to compare them both for cross frame performance to determine faith of Biogon.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7882_1600.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7885_1600.jpg
Biogon - full size
Distagon - full size
Thank you Gary!
Yes, it's CA showing around chrome finish of rims and spokes. I had no time to fix it in post, but defringing slider in Adobe RAW takes care of it in no time.
Few more shots, all WO.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7844_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7878_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7830_640.jpg
Interesting that the Biogon appears sharper in the central part of the image versus the Distagon in the comparison. Perhaps at F4/5.6 the Distagon is sharper in the center?
Biogon vs. Distagon; both images taken at f/8, minimal and identical post processing.
Distagon ZM designed for digital Leica M and most likely with sensor stack in mind clearly shows better results, at least in the corners. In upcoming days I will try to compare them both for cross frame performance to determine faith of Biogon.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7882_1600.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7885_1600.jpg
Biogon - full size
Distagon - full size
Thank you Gary!
Yes, it's CA showing around chrome finish of rims and spokes. I had no time to fix it in post, but defringing slider in Adobe RAW takes care of it in no time.
Few more shots, all WO.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7844_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7878_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7830_640.jpg
Interesting that the Biogon appears sharper in the central part of the image versus the Distagon in the comparison. Perhaps at F4/5.6 the Distagon is sharper in the center?
Mar 19, 2015 at 06:31 AM
p.19 #15Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
rscheffler wrote:
Leica now makes a close focus helicoid for M lenses, but it's expensive, of course. And naturally it's only going to work in live view with the M240.
dalegaspi wrote:
Ron, are you talking about this one? or is there another close-focus adapter I haven't heard of?
Yes, that's it. Of course it's not exactly the same as the FE-M close focus helicoids that will take a lens from infinity to near focus. Rather, with a regular M lens, it will act as a variable length extension tube and with wider lenses may not be practical. It only works as an infinity to close focus adapter with the 90 macro. But at least it's an option for those using Leica bodies.
Jack, one way to determine the night scene flare is the lens or sensor could be to try the same scene with both the Distagon and Biogon? Maybe Gary can try some with the M240 as well? My initial thought was it's sensor flare since the many green 'dots' are mirror images of the light sources in size/shape.
Leica now makes a close focus helicoid for M lenses, but it's expensive, of course. And naturally it's only going to work in live view with the M240.
dalegaspi wrote:
Ron, are you talking about this one? or is there another close-focus adapter I haven't heard of?
Yes, that's it. Of course it's not exactly the same as the FE-M close focus helicoids that will take a lens from infinity to near focus. Rather, with a regular M lens, it will act as a variable length extension tube and with wider lenses may not be practical. It only works as an infinity to close focus adapter with the 90 macro. But at least it's an option for those using Leica bodies.
Jack, one way to determine the night scene flare is the lens or sensor could be to try the same scene with both the Distagon and Biogon? Maybe Gary can try some with the M240 as well? My initial thought was it's sensor flare since the many green 'dots' are mirror images of the light sources in size/shape.
Mar 19, 2015 at 10:14 PM
p.19 #17Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
Jack, on your A7R f8 samples, it kill Leica M9.
now look at your image WO around city make me have a little bit doubt about its Bokeh now
It remind me a lot of FE55 Sony.
now look at your image WO around city make me have a little bit doubt about its Bokeh now
It remind me a lot of FE55 Sony. Mar 19, 2015 at 10:51 PM
p.19 #18Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
Taylor Sherman wrote:
I'm pretty certain that's the sensor reflections.
If these are sensor reflections, I am happy to admit that it's nothing like on stock A7R I have beens shooting since December 2013. You may observe similar.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC3170_640.jpg
Michael, in fairness to M9, A7R has double the resolution and few years leap in sensor technology.
In terms of strict corners sharpness or lack of smearing on Sony it is, yes I am happy with Kolari modded A7R.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7934_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7864_640.jpg
I'm pretty certain that's the sensor reflections.
If these are sensor reflections, I am happy to admit that it's nothing like on stock A7R I have beens shooting since December 2013. You may observe similar.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC3170_640.jpg
Michael, in fairness to M9, A7R has double the resolution and few years leap in sensor technology.
In terms of strict corners sharpness or lack of smearing on Sony it is, yes I am happy with Kolari modded A7R.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7934_640.jpg
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC7864_640.jpg
Mar 19, 2015 at 11:14 PM
p.19 #19Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
Michael, Jack, congratulations!!! It didn't take you long to make that lens sing!
Mar 20, 2015 at 12:49 AM
p.19 #20Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
JaKo wrote:
If these are sensor reflections, I am happy to admit that it's nothing like on stock A7R I have beens shooting since December 2013. You may observe similar.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC3170_640.jpg
Have you tried a baffled adapter to solve your flare issue on the A7r? In the instances where I have observed obvious flare issues, a proper baffled adapter (such as the Rayqual Kindai) has completely solved the issue with adapted lenses on the A7r. If one looks at the rear of the Sony FE lenses, all of the FF versions have built in baffles that mask the image circle to begin with. I have also observed that even in cases with adapted lenses where flare is not obvious, the use of baffled adapters often leads to an increase in contrast since there is actually some degree of flare occurring.
If these are sensor reflections, I am happy to admit that it's nothing like on stock A7R I have beens shooting since December 2013. You may observe similar.
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/_DSC3170_640.jpg
Have you tried a baffled adapter to solve your flare issue on the A7r? In the instances where I have observed obvious flare issues, a proper baffled adapter (such as the Rayqual Kindai) has completely solved the issue with adapted lenses on the A7r. If one looks at the rear of the Sony FE lenses, all of the FF versions have built in baffles that mask the image circle to begin with. I have also observed that even in cases with adapted lenses where flare is not obvious, the use of baffled adapters often leads to an increase in contrast since there is actually some degree of flare occurring.
Mar 20, 2015 at 07:45 AM