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Archive 2014Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
p.2 #3Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
It's a little bit large but not that bad, I'm really looking forward to see a review of the lens on an M to see if it has that Zeiss magic.
Sep 16, 2014 at 02:11 AM
p.2 #4Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
joakim wrote:
It's a little bit large but not that bad, I'm really looking forward to see a review of the lens on an M to see if it has that Zeiss magic.
Indeed, the barrel up to 2 times in length compared to 35 FLE (without a hood), but not huge anyway.
At least it looks like a natural choice over crappy (the size is a reason not to consider it at all) "Distagon" ZA 35/1.4 for E-mount
It's a little bit large but not that bad, I'm really looking forward to see a review of the lens on an M to see if it has that Zeiss magic.
Indeed, the barrel up to 2 times in length compared to 35 FLE (without a hood), but not huge anyway.
At least it looks like a natural choice over crappy (the size is a reason not to consider it at all) "Distagon" ZA 35/1.4 for E-mount
Sep 16, 2014 at 03:38 AM
p.2 #5Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
First impression: 
Of course, I can't help wonder how it'll perform on the A7 series.
Of course, I can't help wonder how it'll perform on the A7 series.
Sep 16, 2014 at 04:08 AM
p.2 #6Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
AhamB wrote:
First impression:
Of course, I can't help wonder how it'll perform on the A7 series.
Exit pupil distance of 21,98mm vs 17,55mm for the Loxia 35 should be an indication of acceptable performance I guess?
First impression:
Of course, I can't help wonder how it'll perform on the A7 series.
Exit pupil distance of 21,98mm vs 17,55mm for the Loxia 35 should be an indication of acceptable performance I guess?
Sep 16, 2014 at 04:16 AM
p.2 #7Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
Wow, it's reasonably sized and not too heavy at 13.4 oz/ 381g. This is looking very interesting, particularly if the performance holds up on the A7r.
Sep 16, 2014 at 04:16 AM
p.2 #8Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
twoeye wrote:
Of course, I can't help wonder how it'll perform on the A7 series.Exit pupil distance of 21,98mm vs 17,55mm for the Loxia 35 should be an indication of acceptable performance I guess?
Well, they did say the design is optimized for digital sensors
AhamB wrote
First impression: Of course, I can't help wonder how it'll perform on the A7 series.
Well, they did say the design is optimized for digital sensors
Sep 16, 2014 at 04:25 AM
p.2 #9Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
I doubt I would get the FE35/1.4ZA at this point. Either keep my ZF.2 or get this new ZM. Or a Loxia?
Sep 16, 2014 at 04:26 AM
p.2 #10Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
carstenw wrote:
I doubt I would get the FE35/1.4ZA at this point. Either keep my ZF.2 or get this new ZM. Or a Loxia?
It's very interesting that the weight and size of the slower Loxia Biogon 35/2 (340g/ 59.2mm long) and the faster ZM 35/1.4 (381g/65.2mm long) are fairly close. Even with an adapter on the ZM, the weight/ size penalty of gaining that stop is relatively small. Of course, the $$ difference is around 1K! The FE 35/1.4 is certainly a pig by comparison.
I doubt I would get the FE35/1.4ZA at this point. Either keep my ZF.2 or get this new ZM. Or a Loxia?
It's very interesting that the weight and size of the slower Loxia Biogon 35/2 (340g/ 59.2mm long) and the faster ZM 35/1.4 (381g/65.2mm long) are fairly close. Even with an adapter on the ZM, the weight/ size penalty of gaining that stop is relatively small. Of course, the $$ difference is around 1K! The FE 35/1.4 is certainly a pig by comparison.
Sep 16, 2014 at 05:03 AM
p.2 #11Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
I'm confused, why didn't Zeiss just start here, with this Distagon for the Loxia!? 
Sep 16, 2014 at 05:09 AM
p.2 #12Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
kroyston wrote:
I'm confused, why didn't Zeiss just start here, with this Distagon for the Loxia!?
Even though the prospects look promising, we still do not know how this Distagon is going to perform on the A7's. I imaging there also might be a price issue with the faster Distagon. I'm sure Zeiss know the ZM will easily sell given it's relatively bargain price to it's Leica counterpart (as used on a Leica for instance) But maybe in the Sony market, it's no longer seen as a bargain.
I'm confused, why didn't Zeiss just start here, with this Distagon for the Loxia!?
Even though the prospects look promising, we still do not know how this Distagon is going to perform on the A7's. I imaging there also might be a price issue with the faster Distagon. I'm sure Zeiss know the ZM will easily sell given it's relatively bargain price to it's Leica counterpart (as used on a Leica for instance) But maybe in the Sony market, it's no longer seen as a bargain.
Sep 16, 2014 at 05:17 AM
p.2 #13Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
Tariq Gibran wrote:
carstenw wrote
I doubt I would get the FE35/1.4ZA at this point. Either keep my ZF.2 or get this new ZM. Or a Loxia?Well this is a ZM design for M mount. I wouldn't expect it to be optimally suitable for the E mount. Look at the ZM 35/2, it's only 240 grams vs the 340 grams of the Loxia. I would guess a Loxia version would weight close to 500 grams.
Sep 16, 2014 at 05:18 AM
p.2 #14Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
zhangyue wrote:
The lens need to be judged comparing with VC35f1.2II which is awesome once stop down (with similar size?) I need see its MTF and size before considering ordering.
Yes, you are right on the money here. The ZM35/1.4 needs to be tested against the CV35/1.2 II and the Leica 35/1.4 FLE. The samples that have been posted seem to have rendering similar to the ZE/ZF 35/1.4 Distagon, I loved that lens when I had it. I had been considering the Leica Summilux but now I am going to wait and see how the ZM performs. I have been happy with the CV35/1.2 II but the Zeiss looks to be a nicer lens.
Ryan
The lens need to be judged comparing with VC35f1.2II which is awesome once stop down (with similar size?) I need see its MTF and size before considering ordering.
Yes, you are right on the money here. The ZM35/1.4 needs to be tested against the CV35/1.2 II and the Leica 35/1.4 FLE. The samples that have been posted seem to have rendering similar to the ZE/ZF 35/1.4 Distagon, I loved that lens when I had it. I had been considering the Leica Summilux but now I am going to wait and see how the ZM performs. I have been happy with the CV35/1.2 II but the Zeiss looks to be a nicer lens.
Ryan
Sep 16, 2014 at 05:21 AM
p.2 #15Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
A distagon design I might actually be interested in this 
Sep 16, 2014 at 05:21 AM
p.2 #16Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
lostinjapan wrote:
zhangyue wrote
The lens need to be judged comparing with VC35f1.2II which is awesome once stop down (with similar size?) I need see its MTF and size before considering ordering.Ryan
Of course the voigtlaender has better background blur capabilities being a 1.2, but I bet the zeiss will be the better lens clinically, even better than the summilux.
Sep 16, 2014 at 05:25 AM
p.2 #17Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
According to Lloyd Chambers blog post about the lens it has no focus shift and he seems very impressed with it, http://diglloyd.com/blog/2014/20140916_0300-ZeissZM-35f1_4-Distagon.html
Sep 16, 2014 at 06:32 AM
p.2 #18Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
Any words from dealers when it will arrive? US & Europe?
Sep 16, 2014 at 06:34 AM
p.2 #19Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
edwardkaraa wrote:
Looks great but no mention of floating elements. I wonder if focus shift would be an issue.
Edward, it has floating elements design. Sat and Tang are very close to each other at WO (similar to the bigger ZF/ZE D35/1.4), shaping up to have among the best bokeh in 35.
Looks great but no mention of floating elements. I wonder if focus shift would be an issue.
Edward, it has floating elements design. Sat and Tang are very close to each other at WO (similar to the bigger ZF/ZE D35/1.4), shaping up to have among the best bokeh in 35.
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Sep 16, 2014 at 06:35 AM
p.2 #20Zeiss ZM 35 1.4
edwardkaraa wrote:
Judging from the lens silhouette on the Zeiss teaser, it seems to be quite large so I would expect reasonably good performance on the A7.
And that exactly would be a bummer for me - I don't like to vest in large new MF lenses for my mirrorless system. Back to Leica....(?)
Judging from the lens silhouette on the Zeiss teaser, it seems to be quite large so I would expect reasonably good performance on the A7.
And that exactly would be a bummer for me - I don't like to vest in large new MF lenses for my mirrorless system. Back to Leica....(?)
Sep 16, 2014 at 06:37 AM